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darwinbulldog 03-20-2019 07:27 AM

On the one hand of course there's something ridiculous about a person being rewarded with over $1000 per minute just to play a game that he happens to be very good at. On the other hand, we're talking about the best player since Bonds at least. Arguably since Ruth. As a percentage of other current star players' salaries it's probably less of an outlier than his baseball skills are.

Bagwell-1994 03-20-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ctownboy (Post 1863679)
Good for Trout. Bad for the Angels. Now the Angels have a top loaded salary structure, not much pitching and a recession on the way. By the time the recession is over and Pujols contract is off of the books, Trout will be starting the downside of his career.



If he is a diva by then (like Ken Griffey Jr) he WONT want to move from Center Field to Right Field and thus hurt the team defensively while also not being as good on the base paths.



David

Does Trout seem like a diva to you? Dude seems like pure class to me..

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Bagwell-1994 03-20-2019 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by insidethewrapper (Post 1863649)
If Trout is like all the others before him , his SB's will go down a lot in the next few years (look at Canseco, Sosa, Soriano etc). In his 30's, his baserunning will no longer be an asset, in fact he has not had over 30 SB since 2013 (not over 30 for the last 5 years) !!! . 7 years and he has hit the 100 RBI mark 2 times (100,111) !!! I'm I missing something here, I know he is great, but that much above the others ???



I know he is a great player but I thought his stats were much better than this. Watching MLB Network I thought he was the greatest of all-time ( lifetime average is . 307 , you would think it was .350+ ).



Also I watch a lot of baseball games and I think most CF's are very good and fast. Not sure how some get rated higher than others, they all make great plays.



I know firstbasemen are rated lower, but they are in on most plays in the game ! Ground balls, double plays, fielding bunts, pickoff attempts from catcher and pitcher, throwing the ball to the pitcher , when the pitcher is covering first, scooping the balls in the dirt and saving runs etc.

He has no control over who's on base ahead of him when he hits. Asinine to blame him for low RBI totals.

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Paul S 03-20-2019 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ValKehl (Post 1863750)
Or what the Babe and Tyrus and the Iron Horse would get if each was in his prime today!

Cobb would get Ichiro money:eek:;)

ctownboy 03-20-2019 11:27 AM

No, Trout doesn't seem like a diva to me. Back in the day, KGJ was said to be all smiles and what was good about baseball but when he was with the Reds and they wanted him to move to Right Field because he sucked as a Center Fielder, he at first refused and when he finally did move he had an attitude about it. Acted like a total diva.

David

aljurgela 03-20-2019 01:37 PM

Diva
 
Trout is not a DIVA in my experience. He has called ushers away to sign for my son. He has smiled, waved and been super nice to me, my wife and my son and daughter the 3-4 times that we have been close enough to interact with him. Pujols on the other hand has been all DIVA.

iwantitiwinit 03-20-2019 04:31 PM

Good for him but 249k per game or around 55k per AB sounds a bit excessive don't you think. 55k per at bat holy sh77.

ullmandds 03-20-2019 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit (Post 1863983)
Good for him but 249k per game or around 55k per AB sounds a bit excessive don't you think. 55k per at bat holy sh77.

Check your math!

oldjudge 03-20-2019 05:23 PM

If Ocasio Cortez becomes president, Trout’s after tax salary will work out to about $15/hr.

GasHouseGang 03-20-2019 05:35 PM

The main reason I like it is because it's great to see a player play his entire career with one team. That's getting rarer all the time.

Peter_Spaeth 03-20-2019 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1863993)
If Ocasio Cortez becomes president, Trout’s after tax salary will work out to about $15/hr.

But he will still be ahead of Harper at $12.

Bagwell-1994 03-20-2019 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 1863995)
The main reason I like it is because it's great to see a player play his entire career with one team. That's getting rarer all the time.

I agree 100%! Its sad the Angels havent been able to put a winner on the field. I hope their farm system pans out and helps Trout get to the playoffs a couple more times at least.

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iwantitiwinit 03-21-2019 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1863989)
Check your math!

Sorry I was slightly off but not by much:


430 mill/12yrs = 35.8mil/yr avg

$35,800,000/152 gms/yr (his avg games the last 7 years) = $235,000 per game!!

$35,800,000/648 (his avg plate appearances the last 7 years) = $55,246 per at bat.

ullmandds 03-21-2019 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit (Post 1864068)
Sorry I was slightly off but not by much:


430 mill/12yrs = 35.8mil/yr avg

$35,800,000/152 gms/yr (his avg games the last 7 years) = $235,000 per game!!

$35,800,000/648 (his avg plate appearances the last 7 years) = $55,246 per at bat.

OK...I apologize...you're estimate is more accurate than my math...CRAZY!!!!

rats60 03-21-2019 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1863997)
But he will still be ahead of Harper at $12.

No, everyone will be making $15/hour.

Peter_Spaeth 03-21-2019 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1864092)
No, everyone will be making $15/hour.

LOL fair enough. Somehow I don't think she'll make it that far though.

packs 03-21-2019 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintagecatcher (Post 1863774)
Red Sox fans are very happy with Mookie Betts.

No doubt Mike Trout is a fine ballplayer, but most Red Sox fans would not trade Mookie Betts for any other MLB player. Period. End of story.

Patrick


Saw today that Betts will undoubtedly become a free agent. Still think the red Sox would have no interest in trading him next year?

VintageVinnie 03-21-2019 08:04 AM

I don't think any human being should be paid this obscene amount of money, I don't care what they do for a living. HOWEVER, if you go by the formula that only the best, #1 player should be awarded this type of contract...then the Angels are right on. Trout is the greatest player in the game today, and probably of this generation.

Vintagecatcher 03-21-2019 05:33 PM

Mookie Betts
 
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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1864104)
Saw today that Betts will undoubtedly become a free agent. Still think the red Sox would have no interest in trading him next year?

Whether the Red Sox are able to sign Mookie Betts remains to be seen. Only time will tell.

Red Sox fans certainly hope so!

Patrick

doug.goodman 03-21-2019 06:14 PM

There is no player making more than any team can afford to pay them.

Billionaire owners paying players hundreds of millions.

The Angels probably got a "deal" on Trout compared to what he might have gotten as a free agent.

I'll bet Pujols told him "if I had it to do over, I would have stayed in St Louis"

Mariano made $132k per inning pitched over his career.

Good thing that baseball players play the only major team sport that doesn't have a salary cap of any form.

Is he worth it? He's worth every penny he can get, at least to the guy paying him.

Each and every one of us gets paid an amount that some others would say is too much compared to what we actually do.

I get paid to got to rock concerts, good for me for figuring out how to make a living out of it. Bummer for the school teachers who make less than me.

All Hail Mike Trout, at least until the next guy signs for more.

Doug "if you pay me enough, I will work for you" Goodman

rjackson44 03-21-2019 07:22 PM

Beer ,hot dog ,pretzel at an angels game ,$80 🤡🤡🤡🤡

Huysmans 03-21-2019 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rjackson44 (Post 1864223)
Beer ,hot dog ,pretzel at an angels game ,$80 🤡🤡🤡🤡

It could be better, those same items could cost only $8...
although, you'd be watching talentless hacks tripping over bases and swinging at their shadows.

steve B 03-22-2019 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1863707)
Which A-rod deal are you talking about? His 2001 deal seems like a pretty good one even with hindsight being what it is. He signed for 10 years and then opted out after 2007. In that time he:

Won 3 MVPs
Won 5 silver sluggers
Made 7 All Star teams


His salary also kept the Rangers from being anything but a last place team.

And he made a perennial winner into a perennial contender.

He did have one really wonderful interference call though, which changed a lot of things.

doug.goodman 03-23-2019 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rjackson44 (Post 1864223)
Beer ,hot dog ,pretzel at an angels game ,$80 🤡🤡🤡🤡

Similar prices at NCAA basketball games this month, and those players don't even get paid.

Doug "hmmm, I wonder where the money goes..." Goodman


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