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Fballguy 07-13-2022 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2242082)
Hi Chris…

It’s really rare for MLB pennants, but more common for vintage college pennants.

Typically if you see an MLB pennant with those “flocked” or raised velvet graphics, you have to suspect it’s a Mitchell & Ness reproduction. All of theirs are done in this style. But yours is unquestionably vintage and of the era. When you’ve seen enough, you just know. Plus, M&N never copied this one, to my knowledge.

Collegiate of Ames was probably the most prolific producer of this style. And they did produce those iconic 3D pennants of the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers and Giants. But yours has a different look. So, as to who manufactured yours… I have no idea. Regardless it’s a tremendous Reds pennant and a rare find!

Yeah...It's even got the Mitchell & Ness spine, but the body of the pennant looks 100% vintage and even has the funky top corner cut that we see from time to time.

Fballguy 07-13-2022 02:21 PM

Speaking of Mitchell & Ness, I was alerting a seller earlier today that their 1951 Giants pennant wasn't vintage but a replica and I did some searching on ebay and found a bunch of these. Not sure who would buy an expired redemption from 2005 but more importantly, I never realized these damn Mitchell & Ness pennants were part of an Upper Deck redemption program.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23369691623...mis&media=COPY


Edit: Wait a minute. I assumed it was a redemption card but in actuality, I'm not sure what it is. Just a baseball card with a Mitchell & Ness laundry tag on it?

bocca001 07-14-2022 08:55 AM

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Rob- I think that some Mitchell and Ness pennants came through Upper Deck, but maybe not all? I know that Oooribay has (or was trying to get) an 1962 Giants one that I'm pretty sure came through Upper Deck and is rare (i.e., they state only a certain number were produced.. like 3 or 5). Maybe he can post it if he did get it. It's the only Mitchell and Ness pennant that I have been tempted to buy.

In other news, thanks for the two NY Giants pennants : )

I'm also posting a pic of an upgraded SF Giants pennant. For some reason, I'm on a quest to find a mint version of this pennant. Because it is a cloth pennant with VERY heavy graphics, it is always somewhat cracked. Usually pretty badly, with lots of vertical cracks. I think that any rolling or light folding would cause a crack. This one is about as uncracked as I have ever seen (one towards the end).

thetahat 07-14-2022 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bumpus Jones (Post 2242045)
Wondering if anyone else has seen graphics applied to a pennant in this manner?

This is extremely cool! And definitely vintage. Agree with Mark about Collegiate. I’ll add that Trench also did this for a brief time. Mostly with regards to 1960-61 team picture pennants.

ooo-ribay 07-14-2022 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2242387)
Rob- I think that some Mitchell and Ness pennants came through Upper Deck, but maybe not all? I know that Oooribay has (or was trying to get) an 1962 Giants one that I'm pretty sure came through Upper Deck and is rare (i.e., they state only a certain number were produced.. like 3 or 5). Maybe he can post it if he did get it. It's the only Mitchell and Ness pennant that I have been tempted to buy.

In other news, thanks for the two NY Giants pennants : )

I'm also posting a pic of an upgraded SF Giants pennant. For some reason, I'm on a quest to find a mint version of this pennant. Because it is a cloth pennant with VERY heavy graphics, it is always somewhat cracked. Usually pretty badly, with lots of vertical cracks. I think that any rolling or light folding would cause a crack. This one is about as uncracked as I have ever seen (one towards the end).

You are absolutely correct on that first pennant. The graphics always seem to be cracked.

I did not get the M&N 1962 fantasy pennant.

perezfan 07-17-2022 09:03 PM

Here's one that's a bit perplexing. If the Colt .45s came before the Astros, why did they apply the Colt graphics to the reverse side?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295093091897

vintagesportflips 07-18-2022 05:13 AM

Perhaps the felt strip at the left side is added as a last step? And the original colts never had the strip applied and was kept in factory inventory?

Fballguy 07-18-2022 05:48 AM

I always just assumed unsold stock that wasn't to be wasted. They stopped production when they got wind of the name change so no spine. Then flipped it over and finished the job when "Astros" was official?

Or a promotional item at the time of the announcement?

Why did they change the name to Astro's anyway? I could understand (but still not be a fan of) them changing the name in 2022 due to liberal pressure, but in the mid-60s? Was it just because of the opening of the Astrodome?

bocca001 07-18-2022 07:44 AM

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That Astros/Colt45s pennant is one of those pennants that always seems to be in very nice condition, making me think that there was a find of them some years after they made. I've never seen one that was really beat up. My Colt 45s (no Astros) is in pretty good shape, but has some wear.

I've seen the combo pennant sale at least 4 or 5 times, and it always does well, although all Colt 45s pennants sell for a strong price.

As for the name change, I've read that it had to do with moving stadiums, the press/prominence of the space age, NASA, and astronauts, as well as maybe the Colt Firearms company wanting to get in on the profits from merchandise.

Duluth Eskimo 07-18-2022 09:05 AM

These specific one color screened pennants were made cheaply and not in a large “factory” so unsold stock was just flipped over. Obviously this is one you see more than others because it’s the same town, but generally you see it more in the Chicago teams. I believe these two sided pennants were all made in the Chicago area where these style pennants are from. I never got any “unsold stock” two sided pennants, but these same style one sided.


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