Josh Gibson Autographed Jersey Lee Trythall Coach's Corner
 

Coach's Corner Auctions, owned and managed by Scott Malack & Lee Trythall, get the prize for the Consignment Of The Year.

A Josh Gibson autographed jersey. And can we guess who authenticated it? Yes, Christopher Morales. The same Christopher Morales, Forensic Investigator, who is on Ebay's Banned COA List.

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=319751


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Wow, this one takes a lot of balls, but they got 'em over at coach's corner.

I looked through the current auction, and it seems to me that they aren't even trying that hard anymore. Some of the forgeries in the past have been decent, but all of the autos I saw in this auction were straight terrible.

They also have a "way cool art chance is a real, hand painted Paciasso". Does calling it a 'Paciasso' make it okay?

Coach's Corner Auction Walter Johnson Scott Malack
 

The ink is still wet on these.

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Holy sh--, those baseballs are unbelievable!
That Johnson is laughable to the extreme.
They have NO shame.
That does not look like the work of F, maybe a new consignor?

Honest question Chris.. Have you ever purchased anything from Coaches Corner? I don't care if it was 20-25 years ago, have you ever purchased from them?

Never.

Chris just knows that if it smells like sh--, and looks like sh--, then it certainy is sh--.

Dont know about the smell, but it sure has the look.

I didn't know if you got burnt by them or what your motivations were. You obviously have a disdain hate for Coach's Corner and it's almost got to the point that you're beating a dead horse.

I don't like that they sell forgeries as much as the next guy, but when you constantly post their stuff on this autograph forum, it has become depressing and takes away the enjoyment/love that people have for this hobby.

Lou Gehrig Autographed Bat Lee Trythall Scott Malack
 

Read the item description on this one; it is very revealing.

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Basta! They're all forgeries on C's C. Just post the auction URL, and be done with it.

Being new to the autograph world,I have a stupid question.
How do they get away with selling this crap?

That is definitely the $64,000 question.

how do they get away with this omg...

Then don't read it. This is what I do. This is what I've done for the past eight years or so. I want them to know that I am not going away.

That's why many of the members here wanted a separate autograph forum.

If this depresses you, then please don't read it. I would hate to contribute to your depression.

The main reason I do this, is because, I, too, love the hobby.

LOL! Like they give a s#*t!

And yes, I have deep disdain for people like Ted Taylor, Drew Max, Chris Morales, Lee Trythall, and Scott Malack. There are a few others, but I want this thread to stay on track (Coach's Corner Auctions).

I think I misunderstood this comment., My apologies

I believe your intentions to be good, but I think you might be doing more harm than good at this point.

Tell me, Matt, what further harm am I doing. Please explain.

Do Something Besides Complain!
 

I too, like just about everyone on this board, have no use for CC. I too am also tired of Mr. Williams depressing attacks. Every time he says something about CC he brings out some current or much older piece of garbage that they foisted on the public with their phony auctions.
Bitching is fine Mr. Williams but all it does is let off steam with no positive end result. Why don't you DO SOMETHING POSITIVE like start a class action lawsuit or contact government agencies in PA or the Feds and have them go after them? You'd find plenty of support on this board.
You seem obsessed with them so why not take real action and get rid of those parasites and make a real contribution instead of your serio-"comedic" attacks that have accomplished little if anything?

Martin Green

Coach's Corner Auction Mickey Mantle Scott Malack
 

Here are a couple of beauties.

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I consider Chris a friend. He has a huge heart and tremendous passion.

There is a method to the madness. Recent posts keep the usual suspects at the top of Google search results. There is always someone to whom this is new information. Just maybe, Chris is saving a new collector from making a mistake that would drive him or her from the hobby forever.

Plus, it lets the usual suspects know they are being watched and we won't just go away quietly.

If someone finds the drumbeat depressing, then just bypass the thread. It's clearly marked. The only thing I find depressing is that some of the usual suspects aren't in jail yet. ;)

I've already stated it... "takes away the enjoyment/love that people have for this hobby"

I used to love this board and visited it multiple times a day until the feuding and constant Coaches Corner bashing flooded the board. When the autograph sub-forum was created, the mood changed and things seem to be a little more positive (momentarily). Frankly, I was hoping the Coaches Corner forgery posts had ended and apparently they haven't.

IMO, I feel like your posts only cast dark clouds above this hobby. That's where I think you're intentions are good, but doing more harm. Just my .02

Then don't read it, Matt. If the title of a new thread reads "Coach's Corner" then bypass it, Matt.

This thread contains the words "Coach's Corner." Why did you elect to read it?

Matt, there are two members (now it's three...not you, Matt) here on Net54 that I placed on my "Ignore" list. Their comments are no longer visible to me if they post a comment. Why don't you put me on your "Ignore" list. Problem solved.

Personally, I don't have a problem with 1 thread a month highlighting the newest and most ridiculous forgeries. I find it more entertaining than depressing since, as others point out so often, nobody on this board takes them seriously anyway.

Overlooking one thread a month is a small price to pay to keep these warnings active where potential bidders can stumble across them before getting burned. More newbies come online every day, and if their first lesson is something other than getting burned on a purchase straight out of the gate, maybe they will stick around long enough to become educated collectors.

If it were a separate thread for each item so that the board was flooded with anti-CC posts, I would feel differently. But that's not what's being done.

Occasionally I am asked to render an opinion on items very similar to this. Typically the person bought it from some antique store or a "mall gallery" thinking it must be real because it's coming from a store in the mall and it has a official looking authentication letter.

It's never fun delivering the bad news. And the people who bought it from the "gallery" didn't get it at the absurdly low CC price... they paid thousands for an elaborately framed and matted fake.

+1!

Neil Armstrong Lee Trythall Coach's Corner
 

Here's another beauty, Mr. Zipper. Not only is the sig horrific, but Lee Trythall also posted the photograph of the signature upside-down.

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Why are you assuming that he has not taken action?
And you get us a list of people who have bought CC stuff and want their money back and Chris and I will help start a class action lawsuit.
You cannot just file a class action lawsuit unless you have lost money. You need grounds to file a lawsuit.
And considering that much of what CC is now selling is being bought for resale, I would think it would be difficult to find people who want to sue them.
Martin - You got a list of those who have been burned by CC and want their money back? I would love to help initiate that lawsuit you talk about.

Do you mean action other than offering up meaningless challenges on YouTube?

To try and add some levity to this mess, that Armstrong capsule photo musta been signed when Neil was in space spinning around:p

With a space pen!

I agree with this line of thinking. If someone finds a rare auto at coach's corner and does a search, they NEED to find threads like this one that are complaining about the crap forgeries that are being sold there.

People can start blogs to get the same results.

I am for what TTIOT is doing and if you don't like the thread, avoid it. Nobody is forced to read anything on the board, and you don't have to comment on every thread. It seems like he's a lightning rod and just because a few people don't like his posts, there are others who enjoy what he has to say.

DanC

Danny are you still promoting smoking for kids?
Shame on you :D.
+1 for danc's post

Danny had a very bad experience with Van Halen's 1984...

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I got nothin'.

G

Was he Hot For Teacher down in Panama? :D

What does he have to say? "There are forgeries at Coach's Corner. Trythall and Morales are responsible for them."

It's been said. Over, and over, and over.

Nothin' to see here, folks. Time to move on.

Maybe it's just time for you to move on from Chris's threads? I enjoy every one of them.

Ya know, Leon, this autograph section was created because many memorabilia people didn't want to be bothered--even to the extent of deciding to ignore a thread--by stuff they had no interest in.

The same holds for many of us autograph collectors. We're not interested in the constant litany of "look at these Coach's Corner forgeries."

Perhaps a spinoff of a spinoff is in order?

And let's name it Joanie Loves Chachi

Well. I think its time to just put in my two cents. I really enjoy Chris' posts on the Roaches, and his education. It's really simple. Anyone who doesn't like them, don't read them. Like some of you say that his posts are just rehashes over and over again, so are your posts complaining about his posts. Thats all I mean..

Scott Roberts

That was a good one, Scott.

Why do people read the threads that they don't like?
I will never understand it.
If you don't like what people say, put them on block.
Chris has done that, I have done that.
Simple solution.
The threads about the Roaches are informative for people who don't know about them and funny for those of us who do know about them. Where is the harm?
AND btw Lee - the work done on this auction is as bad as your guys have ever done. Something happen to F?

+1 Leon's post

You still here, Matt. This is a Coach's Corner thread.

And, Matt, I do contribute to a few other blogs and I also write articles for another website.

Matt, there are thirty-eight threads under the Autograph Forum and only one of them is about Coach's Corner and the title contains the words "Coach's Corner" but you still elected to read it and then complain about it. Why?

The auction doesn't even show the jersey itself, or even describe it. Might that be important when considering this purchase?

Any estimates on the end price?

The over/under number on a CC Josh Gibson Signed Jersey is $145 :D.
The over/under number on a real Josh Gibson signed jersey: priceless.

I like Chris' threads, I have experience in the card market, but I am relatively new to autographs. Guys like Chris help guys like me to never unintentionally pass this garbage through our auction. Thanks Chris when you plug in CC in the search engines you see some scary responses. It it is a free country read what you want and don't read what you want. Pretty simple!!!!

Everything at Coach's is a forgery. "Pretty simple!!!!"

i never even heard of coaches corner until i started lurking and then posting here, hahaha

Thank you, James.

Like I've written many times, no one is forced to read any particular thread on Net54.

Avoid threads you don't like!!!!!
 

My two cents. Also, if you don't like a thread, AVOID IT! This is a community and not everything is going to appeal to everyone and nobody is forcing you to read anything you don't want. So why comment and why keep reading then? It is better to DO SOMETHING (like Chris is doing) than do NOTHING (which others do in being silent). If this thread reaches one particular person (this will be picked up by a search engine, right?) that doesn't know about this outfit, then it has done some good. I like what Chris writes and has done a lot of good (IMO) and David, you add absolutely zilch to this board with your bitter one sentence diatribe which is nothing but repetition and repetition and repetition.

Larry

Hey guys, serious question here. I just googled "Coaches Corner", just for the hell of it to see what comes up and i see all these videos by "Tom Tresh2" talking about Coaches Corner forgeries. This has probably been mentioned on here before and either i missed it or just forgot. Is Tom Tresh a member here?


Oh and i hope these leeches at Coaches Corner don't ruin the good name of the REAL Coaches Corner. The Real Coaches Corner is a very popular Hockey TV segment during intermissions on Hockey Night In Canada. Its hosted by the legendary Don Cherry and Ron Maclean and has been around since the 70s at least.

Chris (thetruthisoutthere) is/was Tom Tresh2.

That is why the ignore function is so useful.

Is that so? Well, how about this, Larry? Leon posts a sticky at the head of this forum. It's called "Avoid Coach's Corner." The thread warns all that everything there is forged, and explains that Trythall, Morales, Max, et. al. are to be shunned as well.

Job done. Once and future newbies are warned. No need for Chris's bullsh$t, or for mine, either.

Oh really? How about this...YOU STAY AWAY FROM THREADS YOU DON'T LIKE. I know this is a concept you can't fathom. You clearly don't like this thread, person or topic and while it's obvious that your life consists of making general unwanted comments.

I ENJOY CHRIS'S B***S**T and think there is value in him posting (as do others) and who made you the Mayor Of Everything?

Start your own Board.

How do ignore someone Rich?

Regards,

Larry

But what do you really think of the idea, Larry? LOL!

Here ya go, Larry. Go to "User CP" in the blue menu bar. On the left you can click on "Edit Ignore List."

Have fun!

Larry - Click user CP on the far left of the bar that is at upper left of your page.
After that scroll down to edit ignore list on the left side. Click that and u place the name you want in there and click the button and you are done. Works like a charm. There should be a poll as to who is most ignored :D.

Why don't you start it, Richard? You're usually the one to do that sort of thing.

ahh thanks Mark, i kind of suspected that but didn't want to say it without knowing for sure.


Nice vids Chris

David, just give these out when appropriate.

I have to be truly honest some of these troublemakers make the board more interesting to read.

You need to award one of those in the Donovan/Cobb cut threads as well

Mike

Yeah, especially since it concerns PSA certing an exact copy of someone elses autograph, i can see where some people with PSA vested interests would want that issue to be considered 'dead' and quickly buried without getting to the bottom of it.

I don't want to see a negative poll on the board. please. Anyone can use the ignore feature and I know a few people using it. You can ignore anyone but a moderator :). There won't be a sticky about Coaches Corner. In general I don't do too many stickies as it's just not something I believe in doing. Then when there is something really important, and one is done, people will take more notice. Everyone should be able to speak their piece on the board per the board rules. If we are exposing legitimate fraud (was that a double antonym?) I can't believe there can be too much of it. I know from quite a bit of experience it all helps...even if some think it could be beating the proverbial dead horse. Carry on. And try to be nice.

Travis, there is another thread for your above comment. This is a Coach's Corner thread. Take it somewhere else.

Leon - I had a big smiley after the suggestion for a poll. I was just kidding.

I would be happy to but joe blow brought up the other non related thread first, and I won't just sit back and let him say things like that without defending myself. tell JOE BLOW not to go off topic and bring up other thread here where it doesnt belong. thanks.


In case anyone missed it, at the bottom is the off topic post by Mike. Is this related to CC? No.

So go bag on Mike. Let's be fair here. His comment didnt seem to bother you even though it was as off topic as mine.

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You need to award one of those in the Donovan/Cobb cut threads as well

Mike


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But i would be happy to bring it back to CC, this beaten horse is just a diversion from the biggest problems in the hobby. when 100% of items go one way, who is confused about it?

when you watch a ventriloquist act, it would get tired real quick when someone nearby keeps saying continuously. "Look, his lips are moving, dont you get it? the wooden dummy's not really talking, its the guy throwing his voice, his lips are moving." we got it.

there is no controversy with cc. their certs and morales certs are accepted at 0 auction houses and cant be listed on ebay.

As for Las Vegas shops, if people aren't googling morales or CC beforehand, it doesnt matter if it has a morales cert, or a made-up burcyzk cert, or a dummied up old frangiapani cert, or Joe Johnson, FDE from hoopleville, Iowa, because people will believe any of these names on a fancy cert if they are uneducated about the autograph hobby and willing to believe anything. They are not real collectors, and there will always be a cert with somebodys name on it, morales or not for these people to get suckered in.

100% of hobby collectors who are paying attention know about cc and morales, not so about other entities who have gotten a free pass all this time.

Just take it back to the thread where it belongs or start a new thread. I don't care who started it; I want it ended here!!!

That's Mr. Joe Blow to you Travis, LOL.

Chris, please accept my profound apology for posting a reply to Travis' post which has subsequently been determined to be "off topic". I didn't realize that deftly calling out what I perceive to be the hypocrisy of one of the more redundant posters on the forum would be against the thread netiquette often displayed here.

I enjoy your CC threads on different pieces each month. Keep up the good work.

Mike

Mike, thank you for apologizing. I appreciate it.

1927 Yankees Autographed Baseball Chris Morales
 

Here's another beauty listed by Scott Malack & Lee Trythall. And authenticated by Chris Morales. Only Coach's Corner Auctions has, what seems to be, an infinite inventory of 1927 New York Yankees autographed baseballs.

What, Lee, only one photograph of this gem?

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=322279

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Babe Ruth signed baseball Ted Taylor TTA Stat Authentic
 

Here's a beauty authenticated by Ted Taylor.

Ted Taylor (TTA) writes on his website "Ted brings a sterling hobby reputation and is well known in hobby circles and is considered by many to one of the hobby's "founding fathers."

You're absolutely right, Ted, you are well known in hobby circles.

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=322517

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Looks like Babe did that one with a black sharpie.