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Great thread!! I'm a former lineman myself and have been a high school line coach for 25+ years. Here are some of my favorite cards of vintage linemen...and a pic of my FAVORITE lineman...my son. He will be a sophomore this fall.
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Wow, all those cards are awesome!
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Here's a duo.
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Maybe the greatest football card ever produced 1964 Philadelphia #8!
Larry http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...on/Scan_32.jpg http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...can%201_32.jpg |
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When I look at that Parker card, I can hear him saying 'I'm gonna knock your head off'
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Wow! Awesome cards everyone!
Mike, that Hubbard Diamond matchbook cover is really pretty rare isn't it? You would know better than I but there are only a handful of those around, right? Big Daddy, So happy to see that you included Wistert w/ your other great linemen. I really think that he belongs in the HoF. He was a 4x All-Pro and a member of the team of the decade from the '40's. He was the best lineman on a team that went to 3 straight championship games (two of which they won) and blocked for a 4x rushing champ. I also like Conrad Dobler (although not as HoF material). The stories about him & how dirty he was just crack me up!:D |
The Hubbard matchbook has become pricey, but I'd bet there is more than a handful around - I have six, although they're not in the best shape. I think the hardest matchbook to find from that set is Tiny Feather, although there are two from that set I've never found - Maynard Morrison and Matthew Murray.
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George Christiansen Ox Emerson Duke Slater Duke Osborn https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4R...g=w552-h739-no George Christiansen https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yn...M=w404-h640-no Duke Osborn jeff |
Here's another Guard
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The only member of the HOF who spent his entire career in the AFL
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A couple of my favorite road graders, HOF Jim Langer and College Football Hall of Famer Reggie McKenzie. Division II legend, Langer was a middle linebacker in college (at South Dakota State?), was cut by the Browns, before an exemplary career as the anchor of the Dolphins O-line for more than a decade. The Best Lineman in DII football is given the Langer Award annually.
McKenzie was a two time all-pro 1973-74 who could pull with the very best of them, a key component of the heralded "Electric Company" line in Buffalo. When Seattle acquired him in 1983, it was one of the great experiences of my younger days as a football fan to meet the man at my father's garage in Auburn, Washington. At the time, former Lightweight champion Greg "Mutt" Haugen, was a 22 year-old lot hand at the same dealership. Crazy place in the 1980's, I remember Bill Elliot and his #9 Coors car visited as well. Happy Father's Day, my hero and best friend, Bob Phelan (1929-2014). http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/...pssm7okqr0.jpg |
An under appreciated Cowboys lineman... 6 consecutive pro bowls and 3 time All-Pro, played in 3 Super bowls.
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Along with Duke Osborne we have Pottsville Guard Frank Racis
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Bz...6=w433-h675-no And these are not cards, but a couple of great images https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b...512/301026.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u...512/271023.jpg |
Clare Randolph
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I’m late to the party on this thread, but I really enjoyed it. Lots of great OL discussed and images posted.
I just picked up my first matchbook and I thought it would fit in this thread. Clare Randolph was never considered a big star (overshadowed by the great Mel Hein, he did get some recognition late in his career), but his name is listed as the starting Center in just about every Spartans/Lions boxscore I’ve looked at from 31-36 including the 32 "ironman game" game against the Packers, the first unofficial NFL championship game against the Bears (32) and the championship win against the Giants in 35. According to this PFRA article, his claim to fame was the ability to tackle Bronko Nagurski one-on-one: http://www.profootballresearchers.or.../20-04-761.pdf Not a bad thing to be known for. As a collector, I got a good deal - I was the only bidder and picked up the matchbook for a $1.99. I know very little about these and have some questions: Is there such a thing as a 3x5 penny sleeve? Jeff mentioned 3x5 top loaders and six pocket sheets, but with cards I always use a penny sleeve first, so I was wondering if I could do the same with this matchbook? Also, what year is this Matchbook? 34 or 35 maybe? There was no info in the listing. Thanks. |
Yes, ultra pro makes postcard sized soft sleeves. Great matchbook!
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Be careful, John, your gonna get hooked on matchbook covers if you aren't careful!
John Spano wrote an excellent article on matchbooks for Gridiron Greats that discusses the various years and difficult ones to find. It's issue #39 if you want to check it out. In summary, here's how to tell the difference between the years. 1933 - easy to tell, silver color. Bio info has either a green or pink background. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Uu...k=w452-h766-no https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Mk...w=w325-h640-no 1934 - tan, red, green, or blue color. Picture is colorized. "The Diamond Match Co. N.Y.C." is printed near the striker https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/w_...A=w281-h766-no 1935 - same as 1934 except the pictures are NOT colorized (they are B&W) and "Made in U.S.A. The Diamond Match Co. N.Y.C." is printed near the striker https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xD...4=w300-h400-no 1936 - vertical bars on R and L sides of player photo differentiates this set of the the ones before it. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aF...c=w265-h722-no 1937 - exactly the same as the 1936 design. For players in both the 1936 and 1937 set, I believe the only way to differentiate them is that their bios are different. Compare this George Musso bio with the one above. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9k...E=w265-h722-no 1938 - back to a silver background but with a yellow football in the center of the matchbook I don't have any scans of this set but you can find them online pretty easily to see what they look like. jeff |
Thanks Guys!
Dan, I'll look into the postcard sleeves. Jeff, great post! I'm going to conclude my Randolph is a 35 - thanks for teaching me how to fish :) I do like these, but without paying high BIN prices, they definitely take patience as the auctions don't occur frequently. I'm been focused on a handful of players that I wanted an item in my collection, but no football card exists. |
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If you're patient, you can pick these up for far, far less than the BINs on ebay. The best deals are usually through AH's when they are sold in lots. jeff |
Here is a link to download a document with a little more detail about the differences between the matchbook sets and a check list of the players -https://storage.googleapis.com/mjmsp...ok%20Types.doc
And not a lineman but a 1938 example . . . . https://storage.googleapis.com/mjmsp...2C%20Dutch.jpg |
Thanks again Jeff.
And Mike - awesome document! That helps me a lot. Thank you. First thing I did was search for "Lavvie Dilweg". He's one of the players on my list that I was pretty sure didn't have a card or a matchbook while an active player and it's looking like that's true. |
It's been awhile since I've posted and I just started reading again last night. I have a few of these, but I will just start with this one. It's his only card, at least that I know of.
Mailday – 1954 Bowman Ralph Starkey PSA 6 |
Here's my favorite lineman on a 1969 Raiders team issue photo:
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How can I resist
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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SP...o=w518-h669-no It's not from his playing days but there's also this: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Lo...A=w244-h701-no jeff |
Jim Otto was awesome!
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Thanks to Scott (sb1) for this one I got from him a while back! He played tackle on both sides of the ball in college.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/hJ...o=w527-h248-no jeff |
Hi Jeff, what is that Culp from?
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Another question for Jeff - you posted a second item of Lavvie Dilweg, but its not displaying for me - what was it?
And nice Packers Walkers Cleaners - I always forget about those. |
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Thanks Mike and Jeff. I recently missed on one of those - I had no idea it would sell for more than a few dollars - I had a low snipe set that never went off: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matchbook-Co...MAAOSwEjFXdcLs
Jeff, this has happened to me before, but I'm not sure if it was your post. In this case, the first image shows fine, but the second one has the "?" icon (and I am logged in in case that matters). I'm on a PC right now - I'll check my phone later. |
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I had the same experience with this matchbook, John. Underbid on it a couple of times until I figured out what it went for and finally won one. You'll get it! jeff |
Jeff, great point about eBay - I actually think losing auctions on your first try is a good thing - speaking from experience I've overpaid on some cards here and there :).
Just to follow up, I tried on my phone, your post with the two Dilweg images just displayed one image and a "missing image" icon. |
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Anybody else not seeing some of my posted images? They all show for me but am trying to figure out if my photo image site is working properly or not. jeff |
To be honest, I didn't know who Bill Johnson was. I laid eyes on this card and loved it, though. I do talk about that more in my blog post.
I would actually like to get a run of this particular card as well. Vintage cards are so much better looking than modern. <a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/24579302@N08/28293405376/in/dateposted-public/" title="BillJohnson"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8785/28293405376_d2f6948833_z.jpg" width="380" height="640" alt="BillJohnson"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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were they linked from the same folder - I had the problem and realized it was because of my privacy settings in the folder where I had the image stored. |
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Yep, looks good this time.
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Thanks guys. And let me know if I post anything in the future that doesn't show as they all look fine to me when I post and won't know that you can't see the images. jeff |
Getting this thread back on track with the latest additions to my Hannah collection. He's #73, pictured on the right side of both team action cards. So far I own 4 different Fleer Team Action cards picturing Hannah. Besides these 2, I also have found him on 1983 (Chiefs) and '86 (Pats). If anybody is aware of any others, please let me know. Thanks!
https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...T%20Hannah.jpg https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...m%20Hannah.jpg https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...m%20Hannah.jpg |
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Thanks Robert!
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In the 1960's thru 80's, the NFL produced a limited number of transparency slides for use in television broadcasts. My source says that they only made one slide of each player each year, and only a couple of copies of each slide. I strive to be a John Hannah "super collector," so I pick these up when I can. Here are the ones I have so far:
http://i.imgur.com/3hPYhng.jpg 1973 pre-RC, above http://i.imgur.com/GdDn3FN.jpg 1977 and 81 http://i.imgur.com/cvWK04z.jpg 1984 - the crappy scan doesn't do this one justice. In hand, the photo is colorful and just plain awesome. |
Those slides are very nice and you have to figure with the digital era they represent a bygone medium -
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Some Frito Lay Patriots cards of John Hannah. First one is from 1976. The 1982 is the only copy ever graded by PSA.
http://i.imgur.com/UxetNMx.jpg https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...nnah%20PSA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/bbS3AHq.jpg Can anybody help me figure out the year of issue for the bottom ones? |
No replies, but with a lot of time and effort, I was able to determine the mystery Frito Lay cards were from 1983.
Had a huge Hannah mail day yesterday. First some backstory. Columbia City Collectibles has had a complete Slim Jim box w/ Hannah on eBay for about a year. I never pulled the trigger because I didn't trust myself to be able to separate a high grade disc. Round ones can be tough, so I figured I'd just wait and buy a PSA 8 or 9. However, i finally decided I wanted it and I knew from the past that these boxes came in 6 different flavors/box colors. I've bought a lot from Columbia City over the years, so I emailed the owner and asked him if he had any of the other variations. He had 3 other flavor/color boxes and a 5th in panel form. So of course I bought them all. OK, here are the pics: http://i.imgur.com/BcyC2t1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/AVUkebQ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/kNkba0u.jpg http://i.imgur.com/DtHLMGz.jpg This spicy/red box is unused/unglued. Lastly, the panel. This one needs a trim: http://i.imgur.com/Zvkr4Ov.jpg Thanks for looking. |
Now you need to buy a beer to go with all those Slim Jims - nice group!
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Thanks! I neglected to mention that the one I need is light green pizza flavor. If anybody has a lead on a complete box or complete, un creased panel, please let me know.
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I had to be patient on this one, but it's up there among my favorite linemen cards in my collection.
The Unlikey Duo of Parkies and My Alma Mater |
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I landed my first ever Topps Vault piece in any of my player collections: the match print photo for Hannah's 78 Topps card. Cool to own a one of a kind item for your player collection.
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Very cool! How many Hannah items do you have left to collect?
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Thanks! There's no telling when topps vault items will become available, but I currently need 11 playing era cards, plus I want a 1978 slim jim pizza flavor variation complete box or panel. My playing era list has 60 items and I have 48 of them in the condition I want.
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The 78 Hannah was one of the 3 basic Topps issues I still needed to complete his basic run. But I just added this:
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2 big uglies on one card!
https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...P%20Hannah.jpg I fixed some of my previous photo bucket links, but if anybody is curious about some of my earliest Hannah posts, you can check out my PSA master set here: https://www.psacard.com/PSASetRegist...timeset/199048 |
This is one of my favorites from my collection. Picked it up at a local card shop. I would like to send it to SGC at some point. It's in fantastic shape. Obviously the centering leaves something to be desired but if it was centered, it wouldn't have still been sitting on that shelf!
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Awesome Chuckie!
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Every Bear Fan's Favorite......
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.......Jim McMillen from the '20's and '30's. This is my first post on this side of the Forum and this thread offered up some great items that will insure my return to see more "Stuff". I am a 70 yr old life long Bears fan and loved the Cardinals and have very deep seated contempt for the Bidwell Family for pulling out of the south side. The stock yards did NOT smell that bad!
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My dad played for the Cardinals in the last part of the 1927 season - Chamberlin purchased him from the Frankford Yellow Jackets in part because of his kicking skills - and on the line this guy protected him
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Here's a signed photo I think you will like: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dN...A=w817-h666-no jeff |
That photo is bad a$$. Revmoran has some great stuff too
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Great Duke Slater photo Mike. While clearly worthy I doubt he will ever make it into the NFL HOF.
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Read a great book on him last year that I recommend: http://www.mcfarlandbooks.com/book-2...-0-7864-6957-4 jeff |
Thank You...
[QUOTE=jefferyepayne;1687994]Welcome, Dennis! That is a fantastic photo. The Bidwell's are nomads that travel from state to state looking for cash. Not a fan at all, either!
Here's a signed photo I think you will like: ...for the compliment. Let me offer you one on the Staley's photo. If that is in your personal collection...you are very fortunate indeed. I'm sure you treasure it!! |
I won these color separation proofs from the Topps Vault for the 1980 Topps John Hannah card. My 2nd Vault Hannah purchase. I wish they had come with the yellow proof, but still, I love them.
https://i.imgur.com/NJI2uoi.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/bK9ds4J.jpg For those who can't picture it, here is Hannah's 1980 Topps: https://i.imgur.com/jQnIIXY.jpg |
More Topps Vault Hannah fun. My first hobby pickup of 2018 is the film positive for his 79 Topps card. I now have Vault items for his 1978, 79 and 80 cards.
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Those are very cool Topps Vault items, Dan! We should do a thread on original art, card proofs, negatives, etc. It's an interesting topic and I'm sure there'd be some great eye candy in it.
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Just got this one today. I've only got a few more to go to complete my HOF rookie cards from the 1950s.
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