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z28jd 11-23-2012 12:21 PM

T207 Freaks
 
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I had an original idea just now, why not find cards from an old set that had some sort of problem, either on front or back. Randomly, I chose the T207 set and just happened to have this front miscut. I find it odd that the back says nothing about him living to 107 years old!

sb1 11-23-2012 12:28 PM

I think I have shown these before
 
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Couple of misalignments

irishdenny 11-23-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by z28jd (Post 1055236)
I find it odd that the back says nothing about him living to 107 years old!

Curious, How would they have know this some 90 years ahead of him dying?
Or am I just missing what your trying to say?

z28jd 11-23-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by irishdenny (Post 1055265)
Curious, How would they have know this some 90 years ahead of him dying?
Or am I just missing what your trying to say?

Way to maintain that child-like innocence Denny :)

This may have been the communication problem, set your sarcasm meter to "high", then see if it doesn't make more sense.

Everything I wrote at the top was a lie, btw. Definitely wasn't an original idea, or a random set on my part. I wrote in the T205 freaks post that I found this card while looking for a T205 and decided right then to make a post about T207's

Runscott 11-26-2012 10:20 AM

Interesting stuff. Can you imagine if you were a kid, and came upon a pile of say, 100 T205, T206 and T207 cards, representing all the various 'freak' examples we've seen posted here.

As a kid, wouldn't you just throw most of them away?

steve B 11-26-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1055952)
Interesting stuff. Can you imagine if you were a kid, and came upon a pile of say, 100 T205, T206 and T207 cards, representing all the various 'freak' examples we've seen posted here.

As a kid, wouldn't you just throw most of them away?

Nope, but I was probably an odd kid. One of my favorite cards when I was collecting in 74- the first year I bought much more than a pack or two- was actually more like 3/4 of a card. From the top of the sheet and way miscut.

I still have that one.

Steve B

atx840 11-26-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by steve B (Post 1056165)
From the top of the sheet and way miscut.

I still have that one.

Steve B

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T206? Stahl? Would love to see that one.

steve B 11-27-2012 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by atx840 (Post 1056174)
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T206? Stahl? Would love to see that one.

No, a 74 Topps Holtzman. And I recalled it wrong. Bottom right corner of the sheet. Here it is along with a few other modern freaks. (Guess which one isn't factory)

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...pictureid=3206

steve B 11-27-2012 09:16 AM

And apologies for getting off topic for the thread.

My one T207 is both normal and in horrible condition. I haven't scaned it yet, but it might be in the running for worst T207.

Steve B

frohme 11-27-2012 10:35 PM

An oddity
 
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OK, maybe not a freak, but definitely one that makes you go ... huh?

This card was the topic of some debate when the Obak full sheet was auctioned having both horizontal and vertical images - see http://sep10.hugginsandscott.com/pl/...ncut_sheet.jpg

The Adams definitely shows the same characteristics.

sb1 11-28-2012 05:29 AM

The horizontal/vertical layout may be the reason that a lot of t207's are cut short top to bottom but are 100% original, they were the horizontal cards on the layout.?? They would have had to cut vertically first and then cut the remaining horizontals apart, which could also be the reason for the number of diagonal top and bottom cuts on some of the shorter cards.

Just a thought.

frohme 11-28-2012 10:00 PM

Cuts
 
I think you're dead on, Scott.

There are a variety of cards you find with MC and OC on the other axis, or more MC/OC than other cards. Needing to make those cuts would seem to drive more process failures (so to speak) on that set of cards.

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Mike

bn2cardz 12-03-2012 08:59 AM

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/..._VGEX4_bck.jpg
second factory number at the top.

bn2cardz 12-03-2012 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sb1 (Post 1056569)
The horizontal/vertical layout may be the reason that a lot of t207's are cut short top to bottom but are 100% original, they were the horizontal cards on the layout.?? They would have had to cut vertically first and then cut the remaining horizontals apart, which could also be the reason for the number of diagonal top and bottom cuts on some of the shorter cards.

Just a thought.

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Originally Posted by frohme (Post 1056933)
I think you're dead on, Scott.

There are a variety of cards you find with MC and OC on the other axis, or more MC/OC than other cards. Needing to make those cuts would seem to drive more process failures (so to speak) on that set of cards.

--
Mike

Not being an expert on the set I always assumed this card was trimmed because of how small it is. Is it possible that it isn't trimmed but factory cut short?
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...cle01small.jpg

caramelcard 12-03-2012 09:18 AM

It doesn't look trimmed to me.

Rob

tbob 12-03-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1055952)
Interesting stuff. Can you imagine if you were a kid, and came upon a pile of say, 100 T205, T206 and T207 cards, representing all the various 'freak' examples we've seen posted here.

As a kid, wouldn't you just throw most of them away?


I agree Scott, they would have found the trash can. Flash forward 90 odd years and I still constantly replace miscut T207s with nicely cut ones. I guess I am one of those who prefers aesthetically pleasing cards instead of freak miscuts. I think it's great that there are collectors who collect miscut cards, I'm just in the minority I guess :(

tbob 12-03-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by frohme (Post 1056548)
OK, maybe not a freak, but definitely one that makes you go ... huh?

This card was the topic of some debate when the Obak full sheet was auctioned having both horizontal and vertical images - see http://sep10.hugginsandscott.com/pl/...ncut_sheet.jpg

The Adams definitely shows the same characteristics.


Very interesting card Mike and I think you are on to something. At first glance I thought maybe that was the sole horizontal card next to it, twice on the sheet, but it is obvious that your surmise is the correct one, that the bottom row was printed horizontally as opposed to the vertical remainder.

ullmandds 12-16-2012 08:20 PM

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Here are a few...a Mcgraw blank back...and a a pale faced Ivan Olson...missing color.

irishdenny 01-09-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by z28jd (Post 1055271)
Way to maintain that child-like innocence Denny :)

This may have been the communication problem, set your sarcasm meter to "high", then see if it doesn't make more sense.

Everything I wrote at the top was a lie, btw. Definitely wasn't an original idea, or a random set on my part. I wrote in the T205 freaks post that I found this card while looking for a T205 and decided right then to make a post about T207's

Everything I wrote at the top was a lie, btw. Definitely wasn't an original idea, or a random set on my part. I wrote in the T205 freaks post that I found this card while looking for a T205 and decided right then to make a post about T207's[/QUOTE]

Ahhhh ... Sometimes I can be very clueless to whats right in front of me.
Marching oN...

Thanks for the calibration ;)

Bridwell 08-16-2013 06:14 PM

T207 Ghost
 
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Here's a neat T207. Never seen a ghost this dark in T207.

iggyman 08-16-2013 08:24 PM

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If a T207 blank back falls in the forest, and no one is around to hear it, will it make a sound?

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