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aljurgela 02-04-2017 11:05 AM

Recent Soccer Pickups
 
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Seems like this side of the board has been dead, so i will try and get it going again! Tough Puskas rookie to track down and incredibly rare Dr. Sarosi (from Malta... only a couple of known copies).

For those who do not know Sarosi, he is widely consider a top 10 pre-war soccer star and was ranked 60th European in the Player of the Century in the IFFHS' Century Elections.

rayj 02-04-2017 11:49 AM

Recent Pick-ups
 
Hi : Really nice pick-ups! I have the Puskas as well.
Although, since mine was not hand cut out as nice as your
I just asked SGC to encapsulate it as authentic.

The Sarosi is rare! Nice card. Grade doesn't matter very much.
Th Puskas is also rare! Again, nice pick-ups, Congrads!

Ray

aljurgela 02-04-2017 04:50 PM

Some more...
 
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Cool Ray... super cool.... love the Puskas... here is another cool one... the Sindelar rookie... Sindelar was ranked as Austria's best footballer of the twentieth century by the IFFHS, also ranking as the world's 22nd best. A top 3 pre-war soccer player and one who (many say) was killed by the Nazis due to his dissonance (refusing to play for the Germans)...

aljurgela 02-05-2017 09:06 AM

Anyone else want to share?
 
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Maradona rookie - 1977 Fulbito - love the nice circular custom insert from SGC

Peter_Spaeth 02-10-2017 08:06 PM

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A substantially less significant Maradona.

Ulidia 02-11-2017 12:21 AM

My primary collecting interest is certain types of soccer memorabilia, albeit not cards.

This is my most recent acquisition which I took possession of last week. It is a large model of Real Madrid's Bernabeu Stadium. It took 4 years for the artist to complete and was previously on display at Real Madrid's museum from 2007 to 2015.

https://s29.postimg.org/hqvopxcmf/20170211_071526.jpg

aljurgela 02-12-2017 02:43 PM

Wow... that stadium is amazing!! Holy cow!

how bid is it? Looks to take up most of that room.

Ulidia 02-13-2017 11:04 AM

The photo is probably slightly deceptive in that it is an inlet in a larger room. However, the stadium is fairly big - it is circa 1.7 metres by almost 1.5 metres in size.

There are circa 80,000 individual seats and, all-in-all, a nice item.

aljurgela 02-15-2017 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ulidia (Post 1630410)
The photo is probably slightly deceptive in that it is an inlet in a larger room. However, the stadium is fairly big - it is circa 1.7 metres by almost 1.5 metres in size.

There are circa 80,000 individual seats and, all-in-all, a nice item.

Wow... how did you get that from the museum? Are you located in Spain? Very nice piece!

Ulidia 02-18-2017 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by aljurgela (Post 1631092)
Wow... how did you get that from the museum? Are you located in Spain? Very nice piece!

The item was given back to its creator in late 2015, presumably because Real Madrid are remodelling their Bernabeu Stadium and now have a replica of what the stadium will look like by 2020 in their museum.

I was able to agree a private sale with its creator.

I am primarily located in London but my collection is all housed in Northern Ireland so I had to get the item over to Northern Ireland from Madrid. It was an expensive process !!

I am a collector primarily of high quality Real Madrid and Brazilian football memorabilia and, in particular, memorabilia relating to Belfast Celtic, my football team I support but that has not played since 1949.


http://i65.tinypic.com/1zo7qx2.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/2s0z1ax.jpg

Iron Horse 02-18-2017 08:53 PM

That stadium and you commitment to getting it is exemplary
Nice to see Bale back in the lineup and off to a good start with the goal.
Regards,
Ruben

aljurgela 02-21-2017 09:06 PM

OMG. Pretty cool. My wife would never let me get one of those!!! Super amazing though!! Thanks for the pictures!!

steve B 02-22-2017 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ulidia (Post 1632476)
in particular, memorabilia relating to Belfast Celtic, my football team I support but that has not played since 1949.



Ok, there's got to be a really interesting story there!

The team still exists but hasn't played? Or a team that doesn't exist but still has fans?

Steve B

samosa4u 05-08-2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by aljurgela (Post 1630147)
Wow... that stadium is amazing!! Holy cow!

+1

Arazi4442 08-20-2017 08:57 PM

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Obviously not soccer but just got this back from PSA

aljurgela 08-21-2017 09:16 PM

Very cool. Al

Peter_Spaeth 03-31-2018 06:55 AM

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Not a big deal, but my first Mira Tuttosport card and in pretty nice condition front and back.

aljurgela 04-02-2018 12:39 PM

I like it!
 
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1762916)
Not a big deal, but my first Mira Tuttosport card and in pretty nice condition front and back.

I actually love that issue and had not seen the Yashin. Pretty cool card!

Peter_Spaeth 04-02-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by aljurgela (Post 1763627)
I actually love that issue and had not seen the Yashin. Pretty cool card!

I would kill, or maim anyhow, for a nice Alcindor and Chamberlain.

Ulidia 04-07-2018 02:40 AM

Not cards but my most recent pick-ups from Madrid:

http://i63.tinypic.com/2196lqf.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/w22d5.jpg

aljurgela 04-09-2018 04:58 PM

Wow!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulidia (Post 1765146)
Not cards but my most recent pick-ups from Madrid:

http://i63.tinypic.com/2196lqf.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/w22d5.jpg

Wow.... nice contact! (palancas) How in the world did you get those?

Congrats!

Ulidia 04-21-2018 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by aljurgela (Post 1766024)
Wow.... nice contact! (palancas) How in the world did you get those?

Congrats!

I’ve been a collector of football (soccer) memorabilia for almost three and a half decades, since the age of 9. I’ve never collected cards in any shape or form except for some of the Panini World Cup sticker albums. My collection revolves around programmes / programs, focusing on Northern Ireland national team programs and programs issued by Northern Irish clubs.


I had assembled a fairly impressive collection of rare, albeit fairly niche in terms of collector appeal, by my early 20s. In particular, pre World War Two programs from Northern Ireland are especially rare as so much of the paper was donated for the war effort.


I sold that collection to concentrate more on medals i.e. medals won by players for winning competitions, included higher end items such as European Cup Winners medals. This remained my focus until a few years ago when I saw a trophy up for auction in a major auction house, bought it, became hooked on its beauty and decided to try to obtain more trophies.


I have a good, trusted contact in Madrid and have been able to source a small number of trophies this way. The trophies in the photo shown here (Spanish Copa del Rey, European Cup, Spanish La Liga) were each made by Alegre, the Madrid jeweller than is officially commissioned by the Spanish Football Federation.


The trophies are expensive and negotiating for these and even logistically bringing them back to Northern Ireland where I house them can be difficult. It’s fair to say that I don’t know anyone else who collects these sorts of items - it’s certainly not a mainstream collectors’ market. Ultimately, I’m hoping to donate by long-term loan some of the trophies to a museum in Northern Ireland.


http://<a href="https://ibb.co/evqDB...order="0"></a>

Peter_Spaeth 05-23-2018 07:54 PM

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Yeah I know everyone says it, but this does look better than the grade, which I think punishes a small spot/mark on the back.

aljurgela 05-24-2018 07:31 AM

Nice copy
 
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1779858)
Yeah I know everyone says it, but this does look better than the grade, which I think punishes a small spot/mark on the back.

Great card Peter.... I think that the highest one that I have ever seen is a PSA 5.... yours is a very solid copy....

Peter_Spaeth 05-24-2018 08:12 AM

Al according to the pop report there is a 6 out there.

samosa4u 05-24-2018 11:12 AM

I have seen a few high grade examples in PSA holders and I strongly believe that someone is trimming them.

aljurgela 05-24-2018 11:27 AM

That would be ...
 
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Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 1780021)
I have seen a few high grade examples in PSA holders and I strongly believe that someone is trimming them.

concerning....

Peter_Spaeth 05-24-2018 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 1780021)
I have seen a few high grade examples in PSA holders and I strongly believe that someone is trimming them.

The highest graded is a 6. What grades are you referring to.

Peter_Spaeth 07-26-2018 03:22 PM

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I was inspired to get his rookie after watching youtubes of what must be two of the greatest goals of all time by him.

aljurgela 07-26-2018 06:45 PM

Nice Pickup Peter
 
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1798334)
I was inspired to get his rookie after watching youtubes of what must be two of the greatest goals of all time by him.

:)

irv 07-31-2018 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulidia (Post 1629644)
My primary collecting interest is certain types of soccer memorabilia, albeit not cards.

This is my most recent acquisition which I took possession of last week. It is a large model of Real Madrid's Bernabeu Stadium. It took 4 years for the artist to complete and was previously on display at Real Madrid's museum from 2007 to 2015.

https://s29.postimg.org/hqvopxcmf/20170211_071526.jpg

Interesting? In your post, I can no longer see your pic but when I quote you, it shows there is an img?

Wonder if it will show up when I submit?

samosa4u 08-13-2018 02:45 PM

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I just picked up this 1965 Sicker-Verlag Beckenbauer rookie. :)

Arazi4442 08-24-2018 02:59 PM

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Just back from PSA. Obviously, Bruce Lee didn't play soccer, but it was the same submission and I think it's a pretty cool card.

Arazi4442 08-24-2018 03:00 PM

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Oops, the 2nd card.....

aljurgela 08-26-2018 12:55 PM

Love this card...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arazi4442 (Post 1807154)
Just back from PSA. Obviously, Bruce Lee didn't play soccer, but it was the same submission and I think it's a pretty cool card.

super under-appreciated card in my opinion! Very nice pick up!

Peter_Spaeth 08-26-2018 04:37 PM

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I guess my 1995 isn't a rookie. Damn. Can't trust these ebay sellers.

esehombre 08-26-2018 07:32 PM

Ronaldo
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1807789)
I guess my 1995 isn't a rookie. Damn. Can't trust these ebay sellers.

Well the good news is that is beautiful copy and i think a lot of people do consider that his rookie. Although he does have a few 1994 issues--this is one that i havent seen very often. And if you are interested in the El Mundo Deportivo that one does come up fairly frequently and shouldnt be too expensive to land a decent one.

aljurgela 08-26-2018 08:49 PM

hey peter
 
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1807789)
I guess my 1995 isn't a rookie. Damn. Can't trust these ebay sellers.

that one is typically promoted as the rookie... it is pretty rare, valuable and well known... but obviously the 1994 card is the best one... IMO

Peter_Spaeth 08-26-2018 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aljurgela (Post 1807840)
that one is typically promoted as the rookie... it is pretty rare, valuable and well known... but obviously the 1994 card is the best one... IMO

With my baseball card mentality, the earliest card is almost always the one I want. I wish there was a resource.

Peter_Spaeth 08-26-2018 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esehombre (Post 1807820)
Well the good news is that is beautiful copy and i think a lot of people do consider that his rookie. Although he does have a few 1994 issues--this is one that i havent seen very often. And if you are interested in the El Mundo Deportivo that one does come up fairly frequently and shouldnt be too expensive to land a decent one.

That's a great image you posted. What is it.

samosa4u 08-27-2018 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by esehombre (Post 1807820)
And if you are interested in the El Mundo Deportivo that one does come up fairly frequently and shouldnt be too expensive to land a decent one.

I disagree.

First of all, these stickers were issued in sheets - nine stickers on each sheet. Kids would peel the stickers off and put them in the album. Now it's not difficult to find these complete albums online, but PSA won't grade these. The backs have already been peeled off and they are stuck inside the album making it impossible to remove. You need to get your hands on the original sheet containing the Ronaldo sticker, and then you have to cut it out (using an xacto knife). It's really difficult to find these sheets.

The second thing I want to say is that the last PSA 6 went for over $500 USD, and this is pretty high considering how cheap his other ones are. PSA has graded only 3 examples so far!

aljurgela 08-27-2018 12:21 PM

Agree....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 1807940)
I disagree.

First of all, these stickers were issued in sheets - nine stickers on each sheet. Kids would peel the stickers off and put them in the album. Now it's not difficult to find these complete albums online, but PSA won't grade these. The backs have already been peeled off and they are stuck inside the album making it impossible to remove. You need to get your hands on the original sheet containing the Ronaldo sticker, and then you have to cut it out (using an xacto knife). It's really difficult to find these sheets.

The second thing I want to say is that the last PSA 6 went for over $500 USD, and this is pretty high considering how cheap his other ones are. PSA has graded only 3 examples so far!

These are pretty tough to find.... SGC has one copy graded. Most that you see have been cut out of the album and they have the backing of the album on them.... very tough card.

esehombre 08-27-2018 08:29 PM

Ok, you probably have a better gauge on these than i do but i have seen quite a few of them. I had no issues landing a nice one however I have passed on several that seem to have back issues. Thanks for the heads up on the sheets and I am glad i didnt have to use an xacto.

Quote:

Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 1807940)
I disagree.

First of all, these stickers were issued in sheets - nine stickers on each sheet. Kids would peel the stickers off and put them in the album. Now it's not difficult to find these complete albums online, but PSA won't grade these. The backs have already been peeled off and they are stuck inside the album making it impossible to remove. You need to get your hands on the original sheet containing the Ronaldo sticker, and then you have to cut it out (using an xacto knife). It's really difficult to find these sheets.

The second thing I want to say is that the last PSA 6 went for over $500 USD, and this is pretty high considering how cheap his other ones are. PSA has graded only 3 examples so far!


esehombre 08-27-2018 08:36 PM

Thanks--it is actually a postcard during his early years (1994) with PSV Eindhoven. This is one that i would consider quite difficult to pick up as I have only seen a couple of others and not nearly in as good condition although I would like to hear the others weigh in.

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1807851)
That's a great image you posted. What is it.


aljurgela 08-28-2018 10:11 AM

One of my new favorite cards
 
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Had been looking for this one for quite some time... It is not his rookie, but it is just beautiful... The Stagni Pettazzoni Meazza...

Peter_Spaeth 09-12-2018 09:25 PM

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Low $$ impulse buy on ebay. Expected a better grade out of SGC though.

aljurgela 09-13-2018 10:00 PM

love that card...
 
a classic from my perspective....

al

irv 09-14-2018 07:23 PM

Lionel Messi having some fun.:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W24lS_4LDw

Anish 09-14-2018 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 1812865)
Lionel Messi having some fun.:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W24lS_4LDw

That’s Sean Garnier, a freestyle footballer ;)

irv 09-15-2018 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anish (Post 1812873)
That’s Sean Garnier, a freestyle footballer ;)

If I had of read the replies below the vid, I would have clued in myself. :o

Pretty amazing skills nonetheless. :)

Copa7 09-25-2018 09:04 PM

puskas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1812430)
Low $$ impulse buy on ebay. Expected a better grade out of SGC though.

Nice card. Legend.

rgpete 09-30-2018 06:01 AM

Soccer Cards and Stickers from Italy
 
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From my recent vacation in Italy I picked up a few 2019 soccer packs at a Giornali in Formia, a Panini Magazine with 2 packs and limited edition cards at Tabacchi Shop also in Formia at a super market called Panorama I picked up the Italian Kelloggs Coco Pops for the soccer stickers

aljurgela 10-10-2018 09:14 AM

Some recent pickups
 
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Hope that you enjoy these as much as I do...

For those of you who do not know who Ernst Willimowski is, he is reported to have scored more than a 1,000 goals and remains (from what I am told) a hard figure to deal with in Poland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Wilimowski


Planicka was the greates Czech goalkeepers and is regarded as one of the greatest goalkeepers of his generation, and of all time, in 1999, the IFFHS elected him the best Czech goalkeeper – as well as the sixth best in Europe and the ninth best overall – of the twentieth century. In 2003, he was catalogued as the greatest goalkeeper of an era that included other notable keepers such as Ricardo Zamora and Gianpiero Combi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franti...3%A1ni%C4%8Dka

Peter_Spaeth 10-10-2018 07:08 PM

What a great looking Di Stefano. I have sought thee, sung thee, dreamed thee.:D

aljurgela 10-11-2018 08:03 AM

Thanks Peter
 
I really love that Di Stefano... I also love some of the prizes that are offered on the back.... perhaps my favorite is the "iron" that you can get... sounds good chocolate and an iron.

Al

Exhibitman 10-11-2018 04:45 PM

Interesting info on Willimowski. Led me to this table of 500 goal scorers, which would be a fun collection, sort of a 500 HR club:


Josef Bican
Romário
Pelé
Ferenc Puskás
Gerd Müller
Cristiano Ronaldo
Lionel Messi
Ferenc Deák
Uwe Seeler
Túlio Maravilha
Arthur Friedenreich
Ernst Willimowski
Eusébio
Jimmy McGrory
Franz Binder
Fernando Peyroteo
Hugo Sánchez
Fritz Walter
József Takács
Gyula Zsengellér
Zico
Alfredo Di Stéfano
Hans Krankl
Gunnar Nordahl
Roberto Dinamite
Jimmy Greaves
Zlatan Ibrahimović
Ferenc Bene

Collect Equity 10-11-2018 06:37 PM

Wow!
 
That is a really cool Di Stefano!!

I love the near-unknown vintage cards. Especially when they have great backs like that one.

Peter_Spaeth 10-12-2018 06:46 PM

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A couple of 60s cards adding to my modest group of greats of the sport.

Peter_Spaeth 10-12-2018 06:51 PM

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Also, some RCs of modern goalie greats.

Copa7 10-13-2018 04:38 AM

soccer pick ups
 
Great additions. That first Schmichel is nice. Also really dig the Greiling Planika. (although I'm a sucker for pre-war goalies)

The 500 list is interesting as it could almost be split into thirds... Pre -war, post war and modern.

Copa7 10-13-2018 11:26 AM

500 goals list
 
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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1819018)
Interesting info on Willimowski. Led me to this table of 500 goal scorers, which would be a fun collection, sort of a 500 HR club:


Josef Bican
Romário
Pelé
Ferenc Puskás
Gerd Müller
Cristiano Ronaldo
Lionel Messi
Ferenc Deák
Uwe Seeler
Túlio Maravilha
Arthur Friedenreich
Ernst Willimowski
Eusébio
Jimmy McGrory
Franz Binder
Fernando Peyroteo
Hugo Sánchez
Fritz Walter
József Takács
Gyula Zsengellér
Zico
Alfredo Di Stéfano
Hans Krankl
Gunnar Nordahl
Roberto Dinamite
Jimmy Greaves
Zlatan Ibrahimović
Ferenc Bene

I have not been able to obtain cards from two from this list. Maybe they exist, I've just not seen them.

Copa7 10-13-2018 11:34 AM

1912 Smiths Footballers
 
Picked up two for my Rangers collection

]<a href='https://postimg.cc/hQK1DpTJ' target='_blank'><img src='https://i.postimg.cc/hQK1DpTJ/2018-10-13-01-31-51.jpg' border='0' alt='2018-10-13-01-31-51'/></a>

aljurgela 10-15-2018 08:11 AM

I like this idea...
 
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Originally Posted by Copa7 (Post 1819457)
I have not been able to obtain cards from two from this list. Maybe they exist, I've just not seen them.

May I add two rather obscure names?

Adolf Jager... said to have scored more than 2,000 in Amateur German competitions and played in the Olympics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_J%C3%A4ger

Mosa Marjanovic - easily surpased 500 and I believe was the leading goal scorer at the international level for Yugoslavia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blagoje_Marjanovi%C4%87

I will see if I can post some a card of these two guys at some point this week.

aljurgela 10-17-2018 09:59 AM

Here are some cards
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by aljurgela (Post 1819836)
May I add two rather obscure names?

Adolf Jager... said to have scored more than 2,000 in Amateur German competitions and played in the Olympics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_J%C3%A4ger

Mosa Marjanovic - easily surpased 500 and I believe was the leading goal scorer at the international level for Yugoslavia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blagoje_Marjanovi%C4%87

I will see if I can post some a card of these two guys at some point this week.

What do you think?

Copa7 10-17-2018 01:51 PM

casanova cigarettes
 
The Casanova series is another that span over several years so the issues are always under debate.

As for the SCG card, it's sort of stupid to generically label as an unknown Yugoslavian issue and then stamping it authentic on the same slab. They should just admit they don't know.

Both are excellent additions to your collection. Well done.

aljurgela 10-18-2018 08:24 AM

Maybe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Copa7 (Post 1820469)
The Casanova series is another that span over several years so the issues are always under debate.

As for the SCG card, it's sort of stupid to generically label as an unknown Yugoslavian issue and then stamping it authentic on the same slab. They should just admit they don't know.

Both are excellent additions to your collection. Well done.

Yes, It is a bit of a question and maybe there were other years. Since Jager's final year was 1927, 1926 would not be too far off. I have some boxing cards and they are equally amazing. I just love this issue.

I think that the Yugoslavian issue thing is fine. I have spent years looking for data on the albums of war torn former Yugoslavia without much success but frequently it is possible to tie down a year based on other cards on an issue, so if you know the year and you know the country, I am fine with "Yugoslavian Issue"... does not bother me at all.

Ulidia 10-23-2018 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by aljurgela (Post 1808252)
Had been looking for this one for quite some time... It is not his rookie, but it is just beautiful... The Stagni Pettazzoni Meazza...

Meazza is probably the greatest Italian footballer of all-time; at least in terms of his impact on the game.


You almost certainly know but, in case not, the stadium colloquially known as the San Siro (where both Milano clubs, Internazionale and AC Milan, play) is officially known as the Giuseppe Meazza Stadium - in was names in his honour in 1980, a year after his death.


In practice, Inter fans tend to call the stadium by its official name as Meazza is a genuine legend of the club. However, AC Milan fans typically still call it the San Siro, and even the AC Milan club hierarchy tend to do this also. Whilst he did spend some time playing for AC Milan, it was at the very tail-end of his career and he is inevitably much more strongly associated with Inter than their city rivals.

Collect Equity 11-01-2018 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Copa7 (Post 1819457)
I have not been able to obtain cards from two from this list. Maybe they exist, I've just not seen them.

When you say you haven't been able to obtain two cards of players on the list, is it because you have been outbid, you have never seen them for sale, or they don't exist.

I would love to see a list of earliest known card(s) for this list of players. It might make a worthwhile thread of its own. Anyone have the start of the list that they want to put forward?

aljurgela 11-09-2018 09:05 AM

Let's start a thread on 500 goal scorers
 
With their earliest cards... Will try and do that today.

Al

Copa7 11-14-2018 09:55 PM

If any one has cards of Artur Freidenriech or Fernando Peyroteo, I'd like to see them.

I know Peyroteo is on a modern postage stamp.

Copa7 11-15-2018 07:55 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/9fGYwB8p/IMG-20181017-104236.jpg

Added another Dino Zoff to my keeper collection. A vital player in Italy's 1968 European Nations Championship.

Meanwhile, the NASL all-time goal scorer - Giorgio Chinaglia before joining the New York Cosmos (two versions, including the Valida)

[url=https://postimages.org/]https://i.postimg.cc/0jrtSwJy/IMG-20181017-104433.jpg[/IMG]

esehombre 11-27-2018 04:55 PM

Baines Shield Bloomer
 
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Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.

aljurgela 11-28-2018 07:33 AM

Wow!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by esehombre (Post 1830559)
Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.

Love this one Noel! Great Find.... I would probably ask Paul. Not sure on the dates, but I do believe that I have seen a different version.

esehombre 11-28-2018 12:17 PM

Thanks for the response Al and good call. I will update if/when i get a response from Paul.

samosa4u 11-29-2018 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esehombre (Post 1830559)
Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.

OK, based on the back I'd say it's from around 1905 but BUT it could be a 1912 card. he was at Derby for two spells, before 1907 and after 1910. The North Parade address is the middle era address for Baines. It is not from the 1890s, that's clear, by the back, so I'd bet on 1905, or a couple of years earlier. So, it's not the rookie for Bloomer but it is probably one of the rarest cards of Bloomer, much rarer than his earlier cigarette cards.

- Carl (www.rarecards.co.uk)

Collect Equity 11-29-2018 02:00 PM

Great Pickup!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by esehombre (Post 1830559)
Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.

By the time I saw this it was already outside my budget. Nice pick up!!!

esehombre 12-01-2018 02:21 PM

Mr Bloomer
 
Thanks for the help and kind words--I did hear back from Paul and as expected I dont think there is anything new here. And thanks Samosa I think there is a way to ballpark these with the right research and agreed it is likely early 1900's (1902-1905).

"Unfortunately there is no real way to date Baines shields. No real records were kept and they were issued in such huge numbers (though very few survived). The only way to try and give them a date would be to try and find a similar card featuring different players and hope to pinpoint a date linked to the clubs they played for at that time."

thelimey 12-20-2018 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Copa7 (Post 1827130)
If any one has cards of Artur Freidenriech or Fernando Peyroteo, I'd like to see them.

I know Peyroteo is on a modern postage stamp.

I've been picking up some of the "Ausland" Konig Fussball cards recently. One of which is Peyroteo but his name has been butchered into Peirotea on the card. The picture is from his international debut on 24/4/38, a 1-1 draw with Germany in an exhibition match in Frankfurt.

Collect Equity 12-20-2018 11:02 AM

Awesome Set!!!
 
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Originally Posted by thelimey (Post 1838081)
I've been picking up some of the "Ausland" Konig Fussball cards recently. One of which is Peyroteo but his name has been butchered into Peirotea on the card. The picture is from his international debut on 24/4/38, a 1-1 draw with Germany in an exhibition match in Frankfurt.

That is really cool. I absolutely love this set! The colors are amazing and the history of it being released in Germany just before WWII is fascinating.

I have been working for a few years on a complete run of all backs for the Nasazzi, Dixie Dean, and Zamora cards from this set. There were 5 known back variations when I started the project. In July, there was the latest update on back variations and now there are at least 15 different back variations, meaning that I am very, very far behind in my collecting journey on this project:
https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogsp...-fussball.html

The day I read about all of the new-found back variations, I didn't know whether to shout with joy because it means I will have years of journey ahead of me :) or to cry because it means I have years of journey that will likely never be complete ahead of me :mad:
:confused::confused::confused:

Anyway, cool set and great cards! And if anyone is selling/trading any Nasazzi, Dean, or Zamora cards from this set, let me know what backs they are and I might just be interested.

Copa7 12-21-2018 01:51 PM

1938 konig fussball
 
Unfortunately, I do not believe this is a card of Poyetea in the 1938 Konig set.
It appears to be Carlos Pereira (FC Porto).

The search continues.... https://bibo-porto-carago.blogspot.c...ta-do.html?m=1


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