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GoCubsGo32 11-17-2016 09:24 PM

Too good to be true?
 
I think so...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Old-Victor...vip=true&rt=nc

rhettyeakley 11-17-2016 09:30 PM

Totally fake.

Modern made images pasted to original Cabinet mounts. These types of items have been coming out of the woodwork lately always with a seemingly clueless seller that has "no idea" what they have.

I love that they mounted the "Old Judge Cigarettes" portion of the OJ Cabinet as if that was part of the photo portion. Someone just spent $800+ on some really poorly thought out fakes.

petecld 11-17-2016 09:33 PM

I have had these in hand and yes, they are fake.

rhettyeakley 11-17-2016 09:36 PM

Originals:

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsca.18776/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsca.18581/

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsca.19674/

nsaddict 11-18-2016 06:32 AM

Lots of bidding action at the end. And high feedback bidders too?

GoCubsGo32 11-18-2016 07:19 AM

I mean, if you look close you can see the printing lines from a cheap printer. Not to mention the white edge where they cut it from and pasted it on an original cabinet mount....It's sad.

pbspelly 11-18-2016 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rhettyeakley (Post 1603012)

this link is really helpful, even to my non-expert eyes.

Looking at the Elmer Chickering cabinet, you can see that the handwriting on the original (top photo) goes from the photo part onto the cabinet mount. Whereas on the ebay one (bottom one), the handwriting is all part of the photo, but the photo includes what had been part of the mount.

nat 11-18-2016 10:04 AM

Who has $800 to spend on old cabinet cards, who also falls for this sort of thing? You would think that anyone who meets the first condition wouldn't meet the second.

Cozumeleno 11-18-2016 10:35 AM

He actually says the authenticity is unknown, too, in the original/reprint category. I can't imagine most of the bidders were paying attention to that.

I wish eBay would make sure that category is up at the top with the other bidding information and not buried further down by the description.

pbspelly 11-18-2016 01:38 PM

Based on the history and what the seller normally sells (i.e non-baseball stuff), I think it is quite possible the seller did not know the items are repros.

Leon 11-19-2016 07:43 AM

Yikes....Going to be like a bad dream for someone....

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Originally Posted by GoCubsGo32 (Post 1603007)


bgar3 11-19-2016 08:01 AM

Tyng?
 
Did anyone think there was an issue with the Tyng cabinet that sold on eBay recently? It did not appear to be a photo.

pbspelly 11-19-2016 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1603360)
Yikes....Going to be like a bad dream for someone....

Hopefully they'll figure it out when they get them. I noticed that the seller does offer 14-day money-back returns

Jeffrompa 11-21-2016 12:18 AM

I almost bid
 
Ill be honest I was fooled , glad I didn't bid .

scooter729 11-21-2016 08:12 AM

I fell for a fake of that Allen cabinet a few years ago, but thanks to the boards here I got my money back, and the fake was destroyed. But there are many others being made, apparently....

my Allen fake

Leon 11-22-2016 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by scooter729 (Post 1603958)
I fell for a fake of that Allen cabinet a few years ago, but thanks to the boards here I got my money back, and the fake was destroyed. But there are many others being made, apparently....

my Allen fake

Yesterday I was going to sell something on the BST. After exhaustive research, I kept coming back to the board for the "lack of" authentication, and I found a fake sold approximately 10 yrs ago for $800+.....It had fooled one of the people least likely to ever get fooled. He used to run an auction house. The board can definitely help root out fakes with the 15+ yrs of archives.... I saved myself some embarrassment. :eek:


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