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Bpm0014 07-25-2018 10:18 AM

I've been putting a raw PR-G-VG-EX T206 set together from 2008-present. Currently at 512. Cost me roughly $40,000 so far. I have all 4 Cobbs, the Demmit and O'Hara, 2 signed Larry Doyles, a NY Joe Doyle partial NY, all the Southern Leaguers, etc. The remaining 8 or so are all readily available. I would be willing to bet that if you started today, the cost would be $50,000+

tedzan 07-25-2018 07:10 PM

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http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...fdBaker12x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yFoster11x.jpg


Brian....Rob....riggs336....Felipe....Brendan

I appreciate your responses and I will comment on them after I post this set here which I sold in 1997.


I started collecting T206 cards in 1981. And by the 1990's, I had put together a 521-card set. The overall grading of this set was Vg-Ex. The Demmitt and O'Hara were both Vg.
Also a Vg Magie, and it included 5 cards of Ty Cobb....green Cobb, Bat on, Bat off, red Cobb, and an Orange (red) Cobb.

So how much did I sell this set for in 1997 ? Once again, I leave it up to you to guess what this set sold for ? ?

I will reveal the $$$$$ amounts for my purchase in 2004 and this sale in 1997 in a subsequent post. Then we can compare our numbers here.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Cobb460x50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...PinlWillis.jpg



TED Z
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Bpm0014 07-25-2018 07:14 PM

I will say you sold it for about $22,000

Hellwig 07-26-2018 10:48 AM

I was probably high in my last guess, so I’ll guess you sold this for $12,500 in 1997.

KingFisk 07-26-2018 12:18 PM

2004 - bought for $14,000
1997 - sold for $8,000

brianp-beme 07-26-2018 04:24 PM

1997 sold for $9,000 (I previously guessed 2004 purchase price of $18,000).

Brian

tedzan 07-26-2018 07:31 PM

T206 REFERENCE....Reflections, etc......Guess the price of a near complete T206 set
 
Purchase price of my T206 set (521 cards) in 2004 guesses.....


Brian
Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1797765)
Wild guess...$18,000

Rob
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellwig (Post 1797767)
$25,000 just a guess


riggs
Quote:

Originally Posted by riggs336 (Post 1797777)
I'm gonna say $13,500.
I bought a mid-grade 520 set in 2008 for $16K plus 15% vig.


Felipe
Quote:

Originally Posted by fduran27 (Post 1797875)
Ted - I am going to say $9,503.34

Brendan
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bpm0014 (Post 1797906)
I would be willing to bet that if you started today, the cost would be $50,000+



Here is a sampling of some of some of the cards in this set......

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ohsonSGC40.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...OLDMILLx50.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ITWiltse50.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...chWheat50x.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...erfeldDRUM.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...hWheat50xb.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ldDRUMx25b.jpg



Thanks guys for participating in this game. And, I wish I would have acquired this set in 2004 for any of your guesstimates. This T206 set cost me quite a bit of $$$$$.....$40,000.
Anyhow, the consolation prize was getting the 32 different T-brands.



Stay tuned for the sale of the 1997 set.


TED Z
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tedzan 07-27-2018 06:54 PM

REFERENCE....Reflections, etc......Guess the price of a near complete T206 set
 
Guesses on the SOLD price of my T206 set (521 cards) in 1997.....


Brendan
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bpm0014 (Post 1798078)
I will say you sold it for about $22,000

Rob
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellwig (Post 1798254)
I was probably high in my last guess, so I’ll guess you sold this for $12,500 in 1997.

Carl
Quote:

Originally Posted by KingFisk (Post 1798280)
2004 - bought for $14,000
1997 - sold for $8,000

Brian
Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1798349)
1997 sold for $9,000 (I previously guessed 2004 purchase price of $18,000).

Brian



Thanks guys for participating in this game. I like Brendan's guess. Unfortunately, I sold 520 cards from this set for $16,000. And, I sold the Magie separately for $2000.


TED Z
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tedzan 07-29-2018 07:03 PM

T206 REFERENCE....Reflections.....Guess the selling price of a COMPLETE SOVEREIGN set
 
* * * * * * * * * * * * * T206 Reference, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * * *


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ereign12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vereign12x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign460x14.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eetCap12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign350x13.jpg
These six are examples of some of my nicer SOVEREIGN cards


OK, let's play this game again.... If I were to sell my complete all-SOVEREIGN set (402 cards), what price would you guess it would sell for ?

This set's overall condition averages Vg-Ex, with some of the stars being Ex.....see examples shown above and below.

Exactly 122 subjects in the basic 524 card T206 set were NOT printed with SOVEREIGN backs (Wagner, Plank, Lundgren, Demmitt, O'Hara,
Magie, Joe Doyle error, the 48 Southern Leaguers, etc.)


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vereign150.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ohnsonPSA4.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cematty25x.jpg




TED Z
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tedzan 07-30-2018 09:11 AM

T206 REFERENCE....Reflections.....Guess the selling price of a COMPLETE SOVEREIGN set
 
* * * * * * * * * * * * * T206 Reference, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * * *


. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ereign12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vereign12x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign460x14.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eetCap12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign350x13.jpg
These six T206's are samples of some of my nicer SOVEREIGN cards


I consider that a true complete SOVEREIGN set includes the Six Super Prints **......with the Sovereign 460 backs. Thus, my Sovereign set is actually complete with 408 cards.

During the Sovereign press runs, American Litho (ALC) introduced an intermediate series into the T206 set....the 350/460 series. ALC selected 6 subjects from the 350 series;
and, printed them with Sovereign 460 backs during the press runs of the Sovereign 460-only series.

FYI.... that the Sovereign 460 versions of these 6 subjects are considerably tougher to find relative to the regular 46 subjects in the 460-only series.


So guys, try guessing the selling price of this set with 402 cards......or, with 408 cards ?
Trust me, these 6 super-prints (with the Sovereign 460 back) go for "Big $$$$". Especially the red Cobb, which appears to be much tougher than the other 5 cards.


Shown here are these Six Super Prints with their SOVERIGN 350 backs and their SOVEREIGN 460 backs......

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CobbSGCx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...obbSGCx50b.jpg

. . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...RedCobb25x.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ign350x25b.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cematty25x.jpg............http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...verssov460.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ematty25xy.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...verssov460.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...luechasedk.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...asedkcap_1.jpg



** Note.. Scot Reader's excellent research revealed that these 6 subjects were printed in larger quantities, and with more Tobacco brands than any of the other subjects
in the T206 set. In his book titled "Inside T206", Scot identifies these 6 guys as the " Super-Prints ".



TED Z
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