T206 Reference....Reflections, etc..... A Tale of Two Unique UZIT cards' "finds"
A Net54er emailed me. Telling me that the Herzog / UZIT card which I claim to be unique is not so. He says that 2 different Pop Reports (SGC and PSA) list this card graded.
What he does not realize is that both these Pop Reports reflect the same card. I sold this Herzog card (graded SGC 45) to David Hall (for his T206 Master set) two years ago. David is a PSA guy, so he had this card re-graded. David lost 1/2 a point in the process as PSA graded it a "3". The Net54er appreciated my explanation. Anyhow, this is perfect example of why one cannot always absolutely trust Pop Report data to be an accurate representation of a rare card such as this Herzog. TED Z . |
Vertical OM miscut w/ 2 players
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Hi all—
Would love assistance with some detective work: According to the centennnial edition of Inside T206, the only cards known to be vertically miscut AND show 2 different players are from P350-only sheets. It was a result of the Pirates winning the 1909 WS and being long-printed with some sharing vertical rows with other players. However, I recently acquired an Old Mill back Doc Casey that is vertically miscut, and features a different player at the bottom of the card. 1) Has anyone seen an OM miscut like this? 2) What could be the explanation for the vertical positioning of the different cards like this? Were players alternating vertically in OM? 3) Who might the player with the dark blue background be? Thanks in advance for your input and expertise. Looking forward to hearing theories. Justin |
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Hi Justin #1....I have seen quite a number of mis-cuts like your Casey (but not Casey....seen other T206's). #2....Multiple printings (vertically) of the same T206 subject was commonplace. Followed by a different subject (above and below) that subject. This process was independent of the T206 back. Since the fronts were printed first. #3...." Who might the player with the dark blue background be? " Casey is a 350-only Series subject, and many T206's in this series have dark blue backgrounds. It's anyone's guess which T206 is below Casey. TED Z . |
Thank you, Ted! Very helpful. The string is a treasure trove.
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I might have missed a couple of the dark blue subjects from print group 2 but if you eliminate the ones that haven't been confirmed or are Old Mill no prints you're left with these candidates. Batch Bender (with trees) Brain Cree Knight (with bat) Krause (portrait) Livingstone Quillen Bender and Cree have different back patterns than Casey and there is a Livingstone two name PD350 with Maloney at the top so if you eliminate these three as strong candidates you're left with these five. Batch Brain Knight (with bat) Krause (portrait) Quillen If you have these five in hand to compare with your Casey you might be able to narrow it down further. Very nice card congratulations on picking it up! |
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Like I need an excuse but the Nascar race was rained out and it's
cool and overcast here so I was bored. The colors vary from card to card and can also vary on the same card with different scans. These are all Old Mill's and I didn't resize the scans because I didn't want to distort the colors. Attachment 328216 Attachment 328217 Attachment 328218 Attachment 328219 Attachment 328220 My choice would be Knight or Krause slightly favoring Knight. |
T206 Reference....Reflections, etc..... A Tale of Two Unique UZIT cards' "finds"
Justin
Also, either one of these Hal Chase cards could have been the card below your Casey card. These cards were initially printed on an early 350-only series sheet (circa Spring 1910). http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...aseblue50x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...seblue50xb.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sedkcap25x.jpg TED Z . |
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Old Mill's with Blue backgrounds and any of them could have been the card below Casey. I wouldn't consider the Chase blue portrait a strong candidate though since there's a two name PD350 of Chase with Zimmerman on top. |
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T206 Reference....Reflections, etc..... A Tale of Two Unique UZIT cards' "finds"
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Ronnie.....I stated my timeline wrong. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ogSGC45x25.jpg.....First, I'll reprise my story which I posted in Post #499 of how I acquired this Herzog card. " 1st Tale...... My old-time friend, Ralph, discovered the Herzog UZIT in a collection he acquired (circa 1990's) in his hometown in the Great Smoky Mountain area of North Carolina. He knew what kind of a "nut" I am about T206's with scarce backs, so we did a nice trade. But, he did not know how scarce this Herzog card was, until I subsequently informed him that it was the only known Herzog with a UZIT back. So we arrived at an additional cash amount (to him) to complete the deal. As of this date, this card remains unique. " At the 2013 National, David Hall was at my booth, and asked me "what kind of goodies do you have for me this time ? " I offered him this Herzog / UZIT card (which I knew he didn't have in his Master set. He recommended that I consign it to the Fall REA Auction. Of course he was the winning bidder. Compare the SGC serial number of the above card on display with the one in REA....THEY ARE THE SAME. I hope you get it now......as of this date, this Herzog card is still the only known one with a UZIT back. Sorry if I confused you, I got my years mixed up. Time is moving too fast for me. So it was 5 years ago (not 2 years ago) when David Hall acquired this card from me. TED Z . |
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