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Archive 07-04-2008 06:35 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Jimi</b><p>Hey all,<br /><br />I just got to my parents today for a little firework action and my parents hand over a baseball postcard that they received from a friend that thought I'd like it. Duh! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> It ended up being an 1908 PC770 American League Publishing Company Postcard. I've never collected any postcards, but I thought this was a sweet looking issue. It's of George Nill, a Cleveland utility player back in 1907. It's in decent shape except for it was actually used in the mail, so it is written on and stamped. I'm unsure of what I have here, so a little enlightenment would be great. I did enough research to realize that there are 15 cards and Cobb and Wagner are in the set. Please help out! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jimi

Archive 07-05-2008 08:09 AM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Brian C.</b><p>Email sent.

Archive 07-05-2008 11:58 AM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p>Congrats on a great pick-up from a set that is highly sought after by a number of postcard collectors. I'm confident that if you put it on the market via an auction, you'd be very, very pleased with the results.<br /><br />(My guess is your e-mail inbox also has been filled with offers since your post. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>)

Archive 07-05-2008 04:34 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>chiprop</b><p>great card! <br /><br />"I'm unsure of what I have here, so a little enlightenment would be great."<br /><br />Incredibly rare and sought after by many PC collectors makes your find quite attractive. Please share a scan if you are able. Brian C has a ton of knowledge about this set. Brian... Please share with the group.

Archive 07-05-2008 04:35 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p>Yes, Brian, please share!

Archive 07-05-2008 07:05 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>"Yes, Brian, please share!"<br /><br />Don't hold your breath.

Archive 07-05-2008 07:16 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Jimi</b><p>....to know what the value might be. Unfortunately, I can't get a picture to work on here. I've not been able too since I purchased my Macbook Pro. Since this has been given to me by my parents, this isn't leaving my collection, at least right now. It's a sweet cards, and I would love to find more. The value doesn't really matter to me, but I am curious.<br><br>Jimi

Archive 07-05-2008 08:57 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Jimi</b><p>[IMG]<img src="http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee269/jimivintage/1908ALPCNillBack.jpg">[/IMG]<br />[IMG]<img src="http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee269/jimivintage/1908ALPCNill.jpg">[/IMG]<br /><br><br>Jimi

Archive 07-05-2008 09:03 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Brian C.</b><p>Hi, I'm glad to help. Each postcard in the 1908 PC770 series has a two-image combination of a head shot in an oval and a full length photo. The series was put out by a Cleveland manufacturer and except for Wagner and Cobb, the postcards are all of Cleveland players. They can be found with or without a Collister & Sayle sporting goods advertisement printed on the front together with a schedule printed on the reverse. The ads and schedules can be found printed in red or green. Both the PC770 and Offerman postcards include player biographical information on their fronts. Incidentally, Jimi, George Nill's nickname was "Rabbit." I'd like to put together an image catalog so if you have any to share, please email me scans. Thanks, Bri

Archive 07-05-2008 09:05 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Jimi</b><p>Are you not able to see the pictures above, Brian? I scanned two large photos for viewing on my last post. Thanks for your help with all this.<br><br>Jimi

Archive 07-05-2008 09:20 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Brian C.</b><p>Hi Jimmy, I see the scans fine. Thanks for posting them. Congrats on a nice acquisition. Anyone with questions about the set or scans of postcards from the set should by all means contact me. Bri

Archive 07-05-2008 09:22 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>Looks like you could have held your breath after all. Nice pickup.

Archive 07-05-2008 09:28 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Jimi</b><p>What makes this a nice pickup for me is that I actually know the Ackerman family (whom the letter is to), I live in Mount Vernon, OH which is also indicated, and my parents were actually high school sweethearts in Ashtabula County (the postmark through the stamp.) Like I said before, I'm hanging onto this item, but I am curious to know what some of you might think this would bring in an auction house. I guess the cheaper it is, the better I will feel about hanging onto it! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Also, if sent to SGC, will they grade it? Authentic? Postally marked? I am a virgin postcard collector, and only because I've just obtained this card.<br><br>Jimi

Archive 07-06-2008 12:33 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Assuming there is no extracurricular damage, many consider a postmark to be a positive as the postcard has been government dated.<br /><br />Many people wondered if the Pinkerton postcards were vintage until some blank backs were found with letters and postmarks. The postmarks confirmed they were from the 1910s. <br /><br />In my collector's estimation, a nice, neat letter and vintage postmark does not hurt the value, and often increases it. Unlike a baseball card, a postcard was designed to be written on. Obviously, if the pen ink bleeds through to the front or the postmark creates a tear that would be a problem.<br /><br />I had a Victorian scrap book that, amongst the scraps and cut out pictures and trade cards, contained some commercially made birthday cards. In the cards the scrap book owner, a young girl, had written loving birthday letters to herself from what obviously were imaginary friends. These were the only birthday cards in the album, so I wondered if they were the only birthday greetings she received that year. The cards themselves were a dime dozen, but the writing made them priceless.

Archive 07-10-2008 08:43 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Jimi</b><p>I'm sending it out to SGC before the end of the week. Any guesses what it will grade?<br><br>Jimi

Archive 07-10-2008 08:54 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p>My money's on 30.

Archive 07-10-2008 08:58 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Turner Engle</b><p>SGC 20.

Archive 07-10-2008 09:04 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>A used postcard (because of ink and marks) will be a 10 or 20 no matter how nice it is, at least thats what all the ones Ive had graded come back as. <br /><br />Like David said, I like them when they are used.

Archive 07-10-2008 09:09 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p>Turner and/or Frank are probably right. The grading of PCs is goofy. This Lajoie is a 20 (it's postally unused, so the back is clean), yet Jimi's displays much nicer. Doesn't seem right that his might come back a 10 or 20. Especially when postcards were meant to be mailed.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/49amlgpubfront.jpg">

Archive 07-10-2008 09:31 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Jimi</b><p>...for a 30, but you guys are probably right...10 or 20. Bummer, but it'll look better slabbed then just laying in my display case in a screw down. I'd like to get more of these if you all have 'em. I now know they are not cheap, but they are so cool looking. <br><br>Jimi

Archive 07-24-2008 11:59 AM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Jimi</b><p>...the report is in. The Nill graded an SGC 20. I'm a little disappointed, but I think the card looks great! Thanks again to all those who pitched in with their advice!<br><br>Jimi

Archive 07-24-2008 12:12 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>Jimi:<br /><br />You know for the Nill the grade is totally irrelevant. Whether it's a 20 or a 30 or a 40 shouldn't make a bit of difference. The card has the same value regardless of the grade. <br /><br />Just my opinion.<br /><br />

Archive 02-26-2009 05:14 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Paula</b><p>I am inquiring about the card you have. Is it for sale and how much? One of his great grandchildren is a relative so I would be interested in it as a gift. Thank you.

Archive 02-26-2009 05:34 PM

PC770 1908 American League Publishing Postcard HELP
 
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/3019102393/" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3195/3019102393_a3ff2c0f8e_o.jpg" width="500" height="920" alt="1908 American League Publishing Company PC 770"></a>


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