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Dto7 11-04-2017 06:15 PM

Red Wings uniform history

http://www.milb.com/content/page.jsp...330&vkey=team4

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-06-2017 08:34 AM

Hows this?
 
https://sportscardalbum.com/c/2f7hm2p4.jpg

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/h49o1i90.jpg

Chris Counts 11-06-2017 09:51 AM

According to the article posted by Don, the Red Wings uniform in the photo dates from 1937 to 1945. I looked at a photo of Whitey Kurowski, and it seems like he could be a possibility. I looked at another Red Wings third baseman from the same era, Gene Lillard, but the image above doesn't look anything like him.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-06-2017 10:11 AM

The more I look the more that batter looks like Stan the man? Any thoughts?

Dewey 11-06-2017 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1717441)
The more I look the more that batter looks like Stan the man? Any thoughts?

The lettering across the front of the jersey doesn't match dual birds Cardinals uniform at the time, does it?

Butch7999 11-06-2017 01:43 PM

No disrespect whatsoever, and maybe we're all wet, but the more we look at the blow-up (thanks for that),
the less it looks like Musial.
The blow-up tells us this about the batter-runner: he's not wearing a St Louis uniform. If that's indeed Musial,
it would have to be a 1941 spring-training game between Rochester and the Class C Springfield Cardinals --
haven't looked for a Springfield uni, but there is what appears to be "CAR" on the runner's jersey.
If it's not Musial, it's wide open as to what year and what team that is.

Dave Grob 11-06-2017 07:47 PM

Minor League Musial
 
It would appear that the value of this exercise is probably tied to the potential value of the image if it in fact contains a very young minor league Stan Musial. Musial can be excluded from being the catcher (not a position he played) and the third baseman (Musial batted and fielded as a lefthander). This leaves only the batter/runner. If Musial appeared in a game against the Red Wings as a minor league player, it would have to have occurred between 1938 and 1941.

In 1938, Musial played for the Williamson Colts. Neither the word “Williamson” or “Colts” appears consistent with the outline or pattern of the lettering on the batters/runners jersey. Same would hold true for 1939, and then if 1939, you might expect the Red Wings player to be wearing the Baseball Centennial patch on his jersey (their team photo indicates they wore this patch). For 1940 Musial played for the Daytona Beach Islanders. Once again, the outline or pattern of the lettering on the batters/runners jersey does not appear consistent with portraying either Daytona, Daytona Beach, or Islanders.

For 1941, Musial spent minor league time with the Red Wings and the Springfield Cardinals. The batter/runner does not appear to be wearing a Red Wings jersey (intra-team game) and the 1941 Springfield Cardinals wore the Birds on the Bat logo just like the parent club. Neither of these would be consistent with the outline or pattern of the lettering on the batters/runners jersey.

For me, these things tend to exclude the batter/runner from being Stan Musial.
Dave Grob

bobw 11-06-2017 10:17 PM

Maybe Toronto Maple Leafs ??
 
Played around with the runner image and maybe he is a member of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Attached is an image from the late 30s early 40s of Tony Lazzeri.
The socks seem to match Toronto, and the stripe on the sleeve.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4495/3...44323f59_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4479/3...70a37fe2_b.jpg

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-07-2017 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobw (Post 1717630)
Played around with the runner image and maybe he is a member of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Attached is an image from the late 30s early 40s of Tony Lazzeri.
The socks seem to match Toronto, and the stripe on the sleeve.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4495/3...44323f59_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4479/3...70a37fe2_b.jpg

Holy smokes that is great work!


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