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JWBlue 02-03-2019 02:02 PM
1985 Topps Collectors' Edition (Tiffany) cards
 
Do 1985 Topps Tiffany cards have a yellowish tint to them?

I just bought one and it is yellowish. Is that damage or is that how they are?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ujIAA...TE/s-l1600.jpg

swarmee 02-03-2019 02:12 PM
That's kind of how they are. I think the extra gloss may have turned them yellower over time than the regular set cards. So you may have some with little yellow and some with heavier yellow.

BearBailey 02-03-2019 02:13 PM
That is how they are.

JWBlue 02-03-2019 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1851749)
That's kind of how they are. I think the extra gloss may have turned them yellower over time than the regular set cards. So you may have some with little yellow and some with heavier yellow.
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Originally Posted by BearBailey (Post 1851750)
That is how they are.
So is the yellowing due to damage that all the cards have? If I had opened a set in 1985 would they have been white?

I am asking since I am wondering if I could find one that has less yellowing.

swarmee 02-03-2019 02:47 PM
Never mind; you've posted it on so many different message boards I'm sure you'll get enough answers.

ALR-bishop 02-03-2019 03:49 PM
More forum shopping ?

JWBlue 02-03-2019 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 1851786)
More forum shopping ?
Is it considered bad etiquette to post on more than one forum?

I wasn't aware. I view every forum as having different members. I don't know where I might find the best answers to my question.

ALR-bishop 02-03-2019 04:19 PM
Just kidding. Makes sense to me to get as me to get as many opinions as possible. I have a run of the Tiffany sets and update sets but have never opened the sealed boxes so have no idea if any yellowing is a result of light or occurs in the dark as well.

JWBlue 02-03-2019 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 1851792)
Just kidding. Makes sense to me to get as me to get as many opinions as possible. I have a run of the Tiffany sets and update sets but have never opened the sealed boxes so have no idea if any yellowing is a result of light or occurs in the dark as well.
I was thinking about picking up an update set too. Someone just sent me pictures of the cards outside the box. They are lily-white.

Apparently it depends on how they are stored.

What is weird is it seems all the Clemens that have been graded have tanning. Even the PSA 10. I guess any amount of light turns them.

swarmee 02-03-2019 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JWBlue (Post 1851788)
Is it considered bad etiquette to post on more than one forum?
I would recommend you give one forum a chance. If you don't get a satisfactory answer in a week, post to a different one. But as many of us are on all three boards you posted to (or was it even more?), you're just as likely to get the same answers no matter where you post.

Jim65 02-03-2019 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JWBlue (Post 1851788)
Is it considered bad etiquette to post on more than one forum?

I wasn't aware. I view every forum as having different members. I don't know where I might find the best answers to my question.
Theres nothing wrong with posting a question on different forums.

The majority of my 85 Tiffanys are white but some yellowed.

JWBlue 02-03-2019 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim65 (Post 1851838)
Theres nothing wrong with posting a question on different forums.

The majority of my 85 Tiffanys are white but some yellowed.
ty.

Amazed that PSA will grade these yellowed ones as a 10. Possibly they became discolored while in the holder.

sfh24 02-04-2019 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JWBlue (Post 1851788)
Is it considered bad etiquette to post on more than one forum?

I wasn't aware. I view every forum as having different members. I don't know where I might find the best answers to my question.
Agree 1000%. Post where you want to seek varying viewpoint. Not sure how some feel they are they can criticize your well meaning activity.

For the record, I authorize you to post the "same question" on 100 different forums.

swarmee 02-04-2019 10:48 AM
Well, he shouldn't have posted it on blowout. Sure is getting an education there...

steve B 02-04-2019 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1851935)
Well, he shouldn't have posted it on blowout. Sure is getting an education there...
That's weird. Shows 90 replies but there's only one page with 13.

Jim65 02-04-2019 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1851935)
Well, he shouldn't have posted it on blowout. Sure is getting an education there...
Its not always about him receiving an answer. There are people here who don't post on Blowout or other forums and might want to learn something too. I didn't know that 85 Tiffanys yellowed so easily and I appreciate possibly learning why.

JWBlue 02-04-2019 02:15 PM
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Its not always about him receiving an answer. There are people here who don't post on Blowout or other forums and might want to learn something too. I didn't know that 85 Tiffanys yellowed so easily and I appreciate possibly learning why.
Some people say it is sunlight.

A moderator over at Blowout replied to my thread.

This is what he said which makes sense. He does not believe it is sunlight. It is possible being encased causes some sort of reaction.

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Originally Posted by BlowoutBuzz (Post 14358490)
Yep, this is normal. To some degree, it's from the gloss seeping into the stock.
Apparently keeping them in the box somehow prevents the discoloration. Someone is selling a 1985 Tiffany Traded set that has remained in the box for the most part. They are lily-white.

sfh24 02-04-2019 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JWBlue (Post 1851994)
Some people say it is sunlight.

A moderator over at Blowout replied to my thread.

This is what he said which makes sense. He does not believe it is sunlight. It is possible being encased causes some sort of reaction.



Apparently keeping them in the box somehow prevents the discoloration. Someone is selling a 1985 Tiffany Traded set that has remained in the box for the most part. They are lily-white.
I have 1983 and 1984 traded sets that show similar discoloration. Cards are otherwise immaculate. Do you suppose it id for the same reason?

JWBlue 02-04-2019 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sfh24 (Post 1852088)
I have 1983 and 1984 traded sets that show similar discoloration. Cards are otherwise immaculate. Do you suppose it id for the same reason?
My guess is due to where they were stored. Was it in a climate controlled area? Even so the temperature setting could have been an issue.

Since it is the gloss seeping onto the cardboard my guess is that the temperature has something to do with it.

Those cards in my previous picture look like the same as they probably did in 1985.

sfh24 02-05-2019 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JWBlue (Post 1852090)
My guess is due to where they were stored. Was it in a climate controlled area? Even so the temperature setting could have been an issue.

Since it is the gloss seeping onto the cardboard my guess is that the temperature has something to do with it.

Those cards in my previous picture look like the same as they probably did in 1985.
I am not certain as they were in this condition when I got them. It is not easily seen at first glance but against the "NM/MT" base set in the binder you can see the difference. It is definitely not bad enough for me worry about replacing the set.

steve B 02-05-2019 01:40 PM
I have seen Topps with glosscoat that yellows back into the late 70's. Some are cards I got in packs at the time that have been stored with cards also bought in packs that didn't yellow. (As well as varying degrees of gloss, which I should study at some point, but studying something that's mostly clear isn't easy)

chalupacollects 02-06-2019 06:35 AM
Not a chemist but the yellowing may be due to chemical reactions over time between the cards and the plastic types of graded holders, sleeves and top loaders, not to mention pages...cards in the box may stay white because there is nothing to react to...

homerunderby 02-11-2019 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JWBlue (Post 1851788)
Is it considered bad etiquette to post on more than one forum?

I wasn't aware. I view every forum as having different members. I don't know where I might find the best answers to my question.
IMO "forum shopping" is when someone either doesn't get the answer they want so they ask on another forum, or when someone posts on 10 forums but doesn't participate in the discussion.

savedfrommyspokes 02-12-2019 03:02 PM
Has anyone noticed any "yellowing" on any other Topps Tiffany issues? My 84s and 86s all appear non-yellowed.

vintagebaseballcardguy 02-13-2019 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes (Post 1854121)
Has anyone noticed any "yellowing" on any other Topps Tiffany issues? My 84s and 86s all appear non-yellowed.
I have the '84 Topps Tiffany set and no issues with yellowing, and they reside in a binder. Enjoying this thread btw.

Leon 02-18-2019 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sfh24 (Post 1851922)
Agree 1000%. Post where you want to seek varying viewpoint. Not sure how some feel they are they can criticize your well meaning activity.

For the record, I authorize you to post the "same question" on 100 different forums.
Says the guy who just asked, and had, his account deleted. Don't worry, no one is following you, just don't look back LOL.....

ALR-bishop 02-18-2019 06:57 PM
Was his activity not well meaning ?

drcy 02-22-2019 01:00 PM
It's called toning.

The N172 and N173 Old Judges weren't originally sepia.


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