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EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 04-10-2017 03:24 PM

Was told to post these T-206's here for help so...
 
I am new to these, and if someone would take the time to help me understand the value of what I have and what is worth getting graded etc I would really appreciate it. Here is the first 16 Fronts and Backs.

1. G. Brown Piedmont 150 Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/20p76144.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/4643g5cy.JPG


2. Hoffman Piedmont 350 Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/yqq55885.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/083uf2wb.JPG


3. Howard Polar Bear Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/iy27mh3e.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/2q37tc2x.JPG



4. Kling Piedmont 150 Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/h88k03z2.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/w38416kq.JPG


5. Kroh Piedmont 350 Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/e0q3f069.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/xj7s182j.JPG


6. Moran Piedmont 350 Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/se47wsua.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/hpo40825.JPG


7. Needham Piedmont 350 Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/4ff1411v.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/2s5p4prr.JPG


8. Pfeffer Sweet Caporal Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/ok7bvb0u.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/99ifc629.JPG


9. Pfeister Polar Bear Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/g29at83t.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/z1838upr.JPG

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 04-10-2017 03:25 PM

10. Pfeister Sweet Caporal Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/ay0t7aqe.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/1yuu29y0.JPG


11. Pfeister Polar Bear Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/u67402vi.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/3g1w88wt.JPG


12. Schulte Piedmont 150 Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/hndp69je.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/5xc63l48.JPG


13. Shekard Piedmont 350 Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/jvn216m1.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/750c4cje.JPG


14. Steinfeldt Piedmont 350 Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/eigy91v0.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/192ox08b.JPG


15. Wiltse Sweet Caporal Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/9iut15wh.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/419g008r.JPG


16. Zimmerman Piedmont 350 Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/0z149271.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/1smj4v64.JPG

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 04-10-2017 03:26 PM

17. M. Brown Pitching Old Mill Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/35kq5qr2.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/8upn9rb2.JPG


18. M. Brown Portrait Piedmont 150 Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/sp9b0g2l.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/8w0sx4ez.JPG


19. Chance Batting Piedmont Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/5vo08yvf.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/u8s8vxp7.JPG


20. Chance Portrait Polar Bear Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/s513146a.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/lbm3je59.JPG


21. Evers Bat on shoulder Piedmont Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/kgrsg6z6.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/7l90f06a.JPG


22. Lundgreen Piedmont Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/qp2fnw57.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/h09a5fp5.JPG


23. Overall Sweet Caporal Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/whh16bfu.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/e9nxaou4.JPG


24. Reulbach Sweet Caporal Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/9941by05.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/4495s82y.JPG


25. Schulte Old Mill Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/rtcn84nt.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/m37n94s4.JPG

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 04-10-2017 03:26 PM

26. Tinker Batting Sweet Caporal Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/ws4w23h4.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/6o4i6o16.JPG


27. Tinker Hands On Knees Piedmont Back

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/r3l6kmd0.JPG[/B]

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/2929bsi7.JPG

swarmee 04-10-2017 03:46 PM

http://www.psacard.com/smrpriceguide...te-border/1055

Cards with a pinhole should automatically grade a Poor 1 from PSA. Maybe a 1.5 from SGC.
I would think any card you think is VG or better or a Hall of Famer is worth grading. That's a great start to a collection!

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 04-10-2017 03:52 PM

Thanks man!!! What would you put on this collection value wise? Ungraded?

Pat R 04-10-2017 04:00 PM

Hi Stephen,

If you're eventually looking to sell, the Hall of famers and the Lundgren would
be the only ones that would be worth grading as far as getting a return on
the grading fees.

I think you have the Tinker (Hands on Knees) and Bat on shoulder back scans
mixed up.

Luke 04-10-2017 04:46 PM

Yeah, what Pat said. T206 are pretty easy to figure out values for. Just look at completed sales on ebay. You have a lot of $15-35 commons and some $60-$200 HOFers. The Chance yellow and Brown OM look pretty nice. Definitely grade those (unless you only have a few cards to send in and the costs will add up to like $35 each)

swarmee 04-10-2017 05:09 PM

Look at the back of #10: it is a factory "overprint" back because there is an additional bar with circular swirls that is covering up the previous factory information. Then the new factory was printed below the frame. Some collectors who are going for complete back runs would value these a little more highly. Don't sleep on the factory numbers or series (150, 350, 460) because these variations are what a lot of T206 fans love collecting, and will pay a premium for.
Since I usually pay about $7/card for bulk submission grading, that's why I recommended grading cards at VG condition or better. If you pay more to have yours graded, maybe just go for VG/EX or EX commons.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 04-11-2017 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1649664)
http://www.psacard.com/smrpriceguide...te-border/1055

Cards with a pinhole should automatically grade a Poor 1 from PSA. Maybe a 1.5 from SGC.
I would think any card you think is VG or better or a Hall of Famer is worth grading. That's a great start to a collection!


You're the man. You're of of the guys who's helped me a lot here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 1649669)
Hi Stephen,

If you're eventually looking to sell, the Hall of famers and the Lundgren would
be the only ones that would be worth grading as far as getting a return on
the grading fees.

I think you have the Tinker (Hands on Knees) and Bat on shoulder back scans
mixed up.


Thanks. Ugh!! Crap you're right they are mixed up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke (Post 1649679)
Yeah, what Pat said. T206 are pretty easy to figure out values for. Just look at completed sales on ebay. You have a lot of $15-35 commons and some $60-$200 HOFers. The Chance yellow and Brown OM look pretty nice. Definitely grade those (unless you only have a few cards to send in and the costs will add up to like $35 each)

Appreciate the feedback!

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1649688)
Look at the back of #10: it is a factory "overprint" back because there is an additional bar with circular swirls that is covering up the previous factory information. Then the new factory was printed below the frame. Some collectors who are going for complete back runs would value these a little more highly. Don't sleep on the factory numbers or series (150, 350, 460) because these variations are what a lot of T206 fans love collecting, and will pay a premium for.
Since I usually pay about $7/card for bulk submission grading, that's why I recommended grading cards at VG condition or better. If you pay more to have yours graded, maybe just go for VG/EX or EX commons.

You might have to school me more on these when you have time.

KMayUSA6060 04-11-2017 06:36 AM

Reference for the different backs...

http://www.t206resource.com/Backs%20Gallery.html

... and their scarcity rankings...

http://www.t206resource.com/Back%20Rankings%20List.html

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 04-11-2017 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmayusa6060 (Post 1649816)
reference for the different backs...

http://www.t206resource.com/backs%20gallery.html

... And their scarcity rankings...

http://www.t206resource.com/back%20rankings%20list.html

oh snap! Fresh

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 04-11-2017 07:50 AM

Ok heres a question...

Old Mill (Southern Leagues) - Brown

How do you know if it's brown or black faded.

I included 2 photos of my old mill backs..

Are either of these brown?

If so what value is added?

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/q4ggb5n0.JPG

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/1xfs061p.JPG

ullmandds 04-11-2017 07:52 AM

bottom one is definitely black...top looks faded black.

ullmandds 04-11-2017 07:53 AM

i thought brown om's were the sl'er back?

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 04-11-2017 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1649839)
i thought brown om's were the sl'er back?

What is SL'er? Im a T-20Newb

trdcrdkid 04-11-2017 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1649840)
What is SL'er? Im a T-20Newb

SL'er = Southern Leaguer

The brown Old Mill backs only come on Southern Leaguers (technically 48 players from several minor leagues in the south), and are always hand-cut, with uneven edges. They're very rare, worth thousands of dollars in decent condition, but if the player is a major leaguer (as yours are), there's no need to worry about it. Yours are black Old Mills.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 04-11-2017 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trdcrdkid (Post 1649851)
SL'er = Southern Leaguer

The brown Old Mill backs only come on Southern Leaguers (technically 48 players from several minor leagues in the south), and are always hand-cut, with uneven edges. They're very rare, worth thousands of dollars in decent condition, but if the player is a major leaguer (as yours are), there's no need to worry about it. Yours are black Old Mills.

Thanks for the help!!!!

Bpm0014 04-11-2017 11:11 AM

Brown Old Mill only found on Southern Leaguers and ALL are handcut/trimmed.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 04-11-2017 05:45 PM

thanks for all the help guys!

The T-206's have found a new home via trade thanks to you guys.

mrvster 04-11-2017 06:03 PM

Stephen...
 
first of all great little lot of 206's.:)

...

I agree with the rest of the input.....



can anyone identify the errors????????? small but there???;)

sad but no brown old mill.....
http://www.t206resource.com/Checklist%20Main.html
very very rare......printer's scrap.....they are EXTREMELY easy to tell and stand out BIG TIME....... and I'm colored blind lol.....

they are 34 possible.....with 12 subjects confirmed......all southern lgers...


approximately 17-20 examples known,,,,,the real cool ones have over print errors on front,(the one like leons:) now my friend owns it;) I have seen one(greminger) triple stamped back!!!.....remember they were printers scrap...and beauties!

swarmee 04-11-2017 06:35 PM

Printers scrap cards are ones that were not fully printed or discarded during the process at some point, normally trashed in sheets and then cut apart later. That's why people mention they're hand cut instead of factory cut. Sometimes they have missing colors, sometimes they have upside down backs, or are blank backed, or have multiple cards printed on top of each other.


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