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Theo_450 08-02-2013 07:37 PM

What's up with Rollie Zeider?
 
I read up on him a little bit, it appears he was fast. He had lots of stolen bases, and played most of the infield positions, but why is he immortalized TWICE in the 1914 Cracker Jack set? Cards #60 throwing and #116 standing. If I am not mistaken, no other player has two cards in this set. The 1914 #60 throwing card was replaced in the 1915 Cracker Jack set by Oscar Dugey.

Does anyone know how and why he had two different cards in the 1914 Cracker Jack set?

rainier2004 08-02-2013 07:41 PM

I believe it was simply an editing error. He played the majority of the time but not everyday and CJ had decided he was in the set and didn't double check that there were no doubles. I don't have any evidence to point you to, I just think that's what I was told some time back.

christopher.herman 08-02-2013 07:48 PM

Another error: "Ollie".
http://www.collectorfocus.com/images...2-ollie-zeider

Theo_450 08-02-2013 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainier2004 (Post 1165876)
I believe it was simply an editing error. He played the majority of the time but not everyday and CJ had decided he was in the set and didn't double check that there were no doubles. I don't have any evidence to point you to, I just think that's what I was told some time back.

Interesting, bad editors? It looks like (from the PSA population reports) that there have been almost twice as many #60s graded by PSA than #116s. I don't have access to SGC, can anyone post pop reports from SGC?

Theo_450 08-02-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by christopher.herman (Post 1165881)

"Ollie", "Rollie", just don't call me late for supper!
Thanks for the image! Is he the "Prince of Errors"?

Chris Counts 08-02-2013 07:54 PM

A similar case is that of Al Corwin, who inexplicably has two different cards in the 1953 Bowman set ...

ScottFandango 08-02-2013 07:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo_450 (Post 1165883)
Interesting, bad editors? It looks like (from the PSA population reports) that there have been almost twice as many #60s graded by PSA than #116s. I don't have access to SGC, can anyone post pop reports from SGC?

Check your numbers...

There are 36 graded 1914 cards

There are 55 graded 1915 cards.......

1914 card #60 is way tougher.....especially considering since many 1915 collectors will add 60 to the hunt to compete the whole CJ set....

tiger8mush 08-02-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottFandango (Post 1165887)
Check your numbers...

There are 36 graded 1914 cards

There are 55 graded 1915 cards.......

I could be mistaken, but I think he meant there are almost twice as many 1914 #60 (Zeider throwing) graded vs 1914 #116 (Zeider Standing)? Would make sense to me, as in general the high numbers (around 80 and up) seem to be less available than the rest of the set for some reason

Theo_450 08-02-2013 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger8mush (Post 1165893)
I could be mistaken, but I think he meant there are almost twice as many 1914 #60 (Zeider throwing) graded vs 1914 #116 (Zeider Standing)? Would make sense to me, as in general the high numbers (around 80 and up) seem to be less available than the rest of the set for some reason

You are correct about my post, sorry I wasn't more clear. I was comparing the 1914 #60 card to the 1914 #116.

Can anyone chime in with an SGC pop report between those two?

ValKehl 08-02-2013 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo_450 (Post 1165942)
You are correct about my post, sorry I wasn't more clear. I was comparing the 1914 #60 card to the 1914 #116.

Can anyone chime in with an SGC pop report between those two?

The SGC Pop Report shows:
Card #60 - 20 graded
Card #116 - 10 graded

Theo_450 08-03-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ValKehl (Post 1165956)
The SGC Pop Report shows:
Card #60 - 20 graded
Card #116 - 10 graded

Thanks! So it looks like the #60 card is twice as abundant.


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