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Bestdj777 04-21-2017 09:40 PM

First card in a set - any childhood stories?
 
Hi all,

I've read numerous times how a card in this or that set (i.e. the 52 Pafko) is hard to find in high grade because it was the first card in many kids' rubber-banded stacks. To me, I just can't see a meaningful enough number of kids organizing and storing their sets in this fashion to make a difference. While it's not a theory that can be proven or disproven, I'm just curious whether anyone has any relevant childhood stories from the 50s and 60s.

Thanks,

Chris

irv 04-21-2017 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bestdj777 (Post 1653078)
Hi all,

I've read numerous times how a card in this or that set (i.e. the 52 Pafko) is hard to find in high grade because it was the first card in many kids' rubber-banded stacks. To me, I just can't see a meaningful enough number of kids organizing and storing their sets in this fashion to make a difference. While it's not a theory that can be proven or disproven, I'm just curious whether anyone has any relevant childhood stories from the 50s and 60s.

Thanks,

Chris

Although I collected mostly in the 70's as a kid, I also used rubber bands to store my cards. I took them to school that way for trades and flips and wished I just left them all in those rubber bands instead of doing the flip thing!

JollyElm 04-21-2017 10:15 PM

Me and my brethren put the cards in teams and all the 'junk' cards (league leaders, playoffs, checklists, etc.) at the back. Sure, we used rubber bands, but they never hit card #1, they hit the A's or Angels team card.

aelefson 04-22-2017 11:05 AM

I am not sure how many kids did it, but it was a very common practice among dealers. Even into the early 2000s, there were at least two dealers at the Wilmington MA show that had most of their wares (all pre 1970 including prewar) in piles with elastics around them (usually sorted numerically for Topps). These piles included cards worth hundreds of dollars. It was much more common in the 70s and 80s. I would guess most dealer stopped the practice in the late 80s/early 90s as Copeland and other buyers were focusing on condition to a greater extent.

Alan

nolemmings 04-22-2017 11:56 AM

I used a card locker like this one on ebay--which I ordered through my mom's Harriet Carter mail-order gift catalog:
http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverh...ize/Locker.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverh...ze/Locker2.jpg
Mine was first used in 1968, and although the Ebay listing claims this to be from that year, you can tell from the inner doors that the expansion Royals and Pilots have been given slots, so it clearly was made in 1969. In mine those bottom slots were used for checklists, league leaders, etc., at least the first year. After that I used it for a few more years and did rubber-band the "misc" cards.

I popped the doors off almost immediately because it was otherwise difficult and sometimes damaging to remove the cards. Also, when a slot was full those notches you see that hold the slats would dig into the cards at the top--for me the team cards and managers.

As the new season began the old cards were put away in those boxes that held bank checks-- I had dozens of them--which in turn were put in larger boxes.

More to the OP's question, though, I never sorted them in numerical order and thus never would have had rubber band marks on card #1.

HRBAKER 04-22-2017 12:55 PM

Always sorted mine by teams in alpha order by league.

Zach Wheat 04-22-2017 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 1653092)
...Sure, we used rubber bands, but they never hit card #1, they hit the A's or Angels team card.

We used tacks and staples on all of our cards....and then to make sure we could identify all of our cards so they would not get mixed up, wrote our names in bold letters on the front.

Z

rgpete 04-22-2017 02:19 PM

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I used cheese boxes that I got from the local Butcher in the early and mid 1970's
No rubber bands on my cards

mikemb 04-22-2017 04:04 PM

My cards were also kept in numerical order by series with a rubber band wrapped around them. However, once I got the checklist card, that always went on top.

Kept them in a shoebox. At sometime in the middle of the 7th series, grouped them by team with the team card on top, of course with a rubber band around them.

So, my checklist cards and team cards were the most damaged.

Still have them all today and they are priceless! My checklists I marked as an 8 to 14 year old are in a binder right next to their better condition cousins that were purchased years later.

Mike

Volod 04-22-2017 04:31 PM

Interesting question; there may be a generational factor involved because kids in the early '50's also had to deal with the conundrum of different sized cards from the big two manufacturers. In the spring of '52, I saw many stacks of cards held together by rubber bands simply because the larger Topps cards allowed the smaller Bowman cards to slip out and away more easily, and as a result, kids had to use bands to keep them together - of course, many kids simply resorted to taking a pair of scissors to the Topps product - yikes - to trim it down to Bowman size. Strangely, I haven't noticed many of those butchered Topps cards showing up in the market in later years. I suppose most dealers simply tossed them out in the decades after the '50's.


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