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drcy 09-11-2019 01:14 PM

It's funny that this question can now be earnestly asked, incl. by PSA fans
 
Which company is/was more reliable at identifying altered cards: PSA or GAI?

Aquarian Sports Cards 09-11-2019 01:19 PM

Early GAI, or late, "we'll do anything for a buck" GAI?

samosa4u 09-11-2019 03:53 PM

Even better question:

Which company is more reliable at identifying altered cards: PSA or KSA? :D

Bigdaddy 09-11-2019 09:06 PM

Has to be BOD

egbeachley 09-11-2019 09:59 PM

Good question.

You are more likely to get a trimmed card by buying it in a PSA slab than buying it raw.

perezfan 09-11-2019 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcy (Post 1916059)
Which company is/was more reliable at identifying altered cards: PSA or GAI?

I truly believe it depends upon who is submitting the cards. I think the grading standard differs for “preferred” customers.

You’re not likely to get many honest answers here. Too many people who want to protect their investments, choose to look past the corruption, and want to maintain the status quo.

Since nobody has really answered the OP’s question about detecting alteration, I’ll give my 2 cents...

1. Advanced collectors’ own sets of eyes
2. SGC
3. Original GAI
4. PSA

drcy 09-11-2019 10:47 PM

In your list would Magic 8 ball rank 4 or 5? :D

perezfan 09-12-2019 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcy (Post 1916206)
In your list would Magic 8 ball rank 4 or 5? :D

It depends on the 8 Ball...

If manufactured in the 1960s, I would rank it #4. If made in the 1970s and beyond, I’d rank it behind PSA. Mattel’s quality control began to diminish after their initial run. That’s about when the Ouija Board became the preferred technology, thus surpassing the Magic 8 Ball.

So the full ranking is as follows...

1. Our own eyes
2. SGC
3. Early Global
4. ‘60s Magic 8 Ball
5. Ouija Board
6. PSA
7. ‘70s Magic 8 Ball
8. Late Global

drcy 09-12-2019 12:51 AM

In defense of PSA, Pro would rank 17, and AAA wouldn't qualify because nothing they graded qualified a card.

The real funny thing is BCCC might be #1.

Exhibitman 09-12-2019 10:54 AM

BCCC, heh, their 'whatever' grade just cracks me up. I have one card:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...20Mays%201.jpg

Only reason it is still slabbed is that the Beckett slabs are hard to open.

We also forgot original (red label) SCD:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ps%20Spahn.jpg

I thought they did a good job and had a nice holder, but the venture fizzled and they sold to some clown who rebranded with blue labels and turned it into a PRO.

Also a fond shout out to CSA: remember that one? I got some great cards in CSA holders but also some clunkers. Those bright blue holders were...interesting.

drcy 09-12-2019 01:27 PM

An experienced eye, hobby knowledge, logic, common sense and the input of friends make up something currently more reliable at identifying altered raw cards than a PSA label. If one needs evidence, mere common sense points to most high-grade Pre-War cards in PSA holders likely being altered. Yet PSA has labeled them all as unaltered.

Granted, PSA is the particular target of sneaky altered cards (though much of their own making--formation of PSA registry, marketing, apparently allowing known alterers to continue to submit cards, etc.), but that's a reason (or excuse for) why the facts are the facts not a refutation of the facts.


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