Looks like you're skipping the 67's. I am too. I'm not convinced they were a Topps issue.

Ya I the they're sport graficos. I do have a Rico Carty and I notice a Torre is for sale right now on eBay, but ya I'm convinced they aren't topps.

Was reviewing this thread and saw this post. I recently read an article that says the Venezuelan cards weren't issued with albums until 1964. So 1959, 60 and 62 should have less issues with glue damage.

Also I noticed a lot of my Venies haven't been shown here yet. Here are some more of my 64's.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...ey%20front.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...ey%20back2.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...tch%20Ldrs.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...am%20front.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...n%20Alston.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...n%20Lolich.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...Pinson%202.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...Radatz%202.jpg

Hey DB, that McCovey looks clean!!!

And here are my 68's I haven't shown yet:

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...att%20Ldrs.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...rt%20front.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...art%20back.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...gell20Dick.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...Alley%20AS.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...egosi%20AS.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...20McCarver.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...n%20CJones.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...%20Rollins.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...tt%20front.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...ott%20back.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...Cards%20RC.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...en%20Amaro.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...0DWilliams.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...en%20Veale.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...ary%20Bell.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...20Cardenas.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...ERA%20Ldrs.jpg

Thanks, that McCovey was love at first sight! I forgot to mention the 64 Lolich is a RC.

Here are the last 3 I have to show:

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...lins20Rico.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...art20White.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...n20Rookies.jpg

Wow, there is some definite inconsistency in low grades with PSA. I love that the Scott is a 2, Bell is 2.5 and Williams is a 1.

I agree. Or that the Scott and the McCovey are both 2's. The McCovey is crease free. Still stunned by that grade, but it allowed me to steal that card on ebay

Edit to add: the Torrez RC, mccarver and cleon jones are all the first copy of each graded by PSA. The Amaro 1.5 is the highest graded ("pop 1, none higher"). I love the Hart.

Cubs Team Venezuelans
 

Here are my Cubs Team cards:
Joe

Hey, everyone. I'm still on the hunt for Braves Venezuelan cards. If you happen to have, or know anyone that might have, the cards listed below I am definitely a buyer. Just send me a PM. :)

1959 Topps Venezuelan
104 Del Rice -- Milwaukee Braves
126 Eddie Haas -- Milwaukee Braves
128 Bob Hartman -- Milwaukee Braves
157 Felix Mantilla -- Milwaukee Braves
165 Bill Bruton -- Milwaukee Braves
188 Juan Pizarro -- Milwaukee Braves

1962 Topps Venezuelan
30 Eddie Mathews – Milwaukee Braves
158 Braves Team -- Milwaukee Braves

1968 Topps Venezuelan
110 Hank Aaron -- Atlanta Braves

I don't have any 59's or 62's (no Yaz) otherwise I'd help you out. Do you really have all the Aarons except one?? That's awesome!

Are you collecting the league leader cards? I know Aaron and Spahn share some Venz LL's with other HOFers

I posted my 68 Venz bill white and O's rookies before, but just recently got them back in PSA slabs

How was the grading this time?

Well, as far as VZ Aaron's go, there are only two, the '64 and the '68, not including LL's. I was able to get a really good deal on the '64, but the only '68s I've seen are graded and priced much too high for my taste.

I'm not collecting LL's. I'm specifically collecting only base cards. The addition of LL's would grow my list exponentially, not only in VZs, but also OPCs, and American Topps.

I've already gone away from my original plan and have collected rookie cards of Braves that wouldn't be considered base cards, so adding LL's would just be too big a task to undertake at this time. Maybe after finishing my run I might look into LL's.

I requested that they be slabbed "authentic" and both of them were. No numerical grade. The White had some back damage and the O's had severe back damage.

Posted the same post on what I needed over at Yahoo and found someone who had the '62 Mathews and Braves Team card. Picked them up at a decent price, probably overpaid a little, but my '62 run is complete, so good day for that. :)

Congrats Ryan, would love to see them once they're in hand.

I will definitely post once I do. Hoping I can find someone with '59s. :(

As promised, here are the pics of the two VZs I purchased. Not that they're great, by any standards, even VZ standards, but there's no paper loss in the front and that's all that matters to me. :)

Those look great to me! Lately I've devoted time and funds to my John Hannah player collection, but me thinks I need to pick up a Venz or 2 here soon.

Thanks, I got a couple Braves cards in the B/S/T I'm selling. They aren't special players or anything, but if you need either of them they're there. :)

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=226925

I got a couple '59s in the cue that I need. The seller doesn't want to sell outside of eBay cause he's new to eBay and he's from Venezuela. Just waiting for him to list them and they're mine. Once I get them, I'll only need 6 more to complete my run of VZ Braves base cards.

This is for all the VZ collectors out there. There's a guy on ebay selling two different '59s of Don McMahon. One he says is "carton clear" and the other "carton dark". I'm not sure what the difference is. Here's the links if anyone can shed light on this...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-Venezue...AAAOSwi0RX1HHb

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-Venezue...0AAOSwMgdX1HEG

I have never heard that nomenclature used, but I am assuming he is just referring to the fact that one is a gray back and one is a cream back variation. My understanding--and some of the experts on here please correct me if I am wrong--is that the cards sold in Caracas were printed on gray stock and those sold outside of Caracas are printed on cream card stock. Cream backs seemed to be more difficult to find.

That's what I was thinking, but I wanted to make sure before I considered bidding on the item. If there's anyone who can second the opinion about it being a cream back I'd be very much appreciative.

Were there only back variations on the 59's, or in other Venz sets as well?

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Ryan:

looked at the examples shown in the links, and my first thought was "Google translator-esque", kinda like when jokes/phrases don't always translate (read: are not as funny/clear) when or if they're translated from one language to another, and that prompted me to do an English/Spanish internet search (Google IS my BFF - sometimes - and yes, I probably DO need to get a life), but I happened to have a few moments to kill, so the timing was good...

anyway, here's what I came up with:

"carton", Spanish English Dictionary (Granada University, Spain), 7.7
(n.) = cardboard ; pasteboard ; paperboard.

cool stuff either way, and something I more than likely would've never noticed (or even looked for) when going thru a stack of 59's until now, although I'm certain I will in the future - I learn something new every day, and that's never a bad thing :)

DS

That's my understanding, although I don't know about anything produced after 1968.

Thanks. I collect 1964 and 68 Venz, plus Yaz from the other 1960s Venz issues, so what you said covers the ones I was wondering about.

Glad to hear you don't have any additional cards to chase :) I almost cried after I bought my 59 Mantle and then learned there was another, substantially more expensive variation out there.

I think I'm just gonna skip variations all together. I can neither confirm nor deny that that the reasoning money related. :o

Latest addition:

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...0Ven%20162.jpg

I just picked up some more 62's including #199 & 200 and a few HOFers. Not great condition but I'm working on both raw and graded sets.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...a52af1a2c4.jpg


Joshua Van Pelt

Holy crap, josh, great score!

New to the board and collecting here are my first additions

Correct picture

Wow, Carlos, starting with some serious star power! I don't own any 62 Venz cards yet

Lots of '59s on eBay lately. I blame what's going on in Venezuela right now. It's a shame for those that live there.

Thank you and yes for sure 62 is my favorite year of the Venezuela I missed out on Aparicio hopefully one comes up.

And i saw that I was wondering have you guys bought cards from those individual before?

Yes, he posts lots of nice oddball stuff. I have bought a lot of the 62's from him in the past but they are usually lower condition.

The Aparicio doesn't come up too often in any condition (but luckily still affordable).






Joshua Van Pelt

Ok thank you

If you're talking about the '59s, I have bought from some of the sellers and they're legit. Some of it's priced rather high at the moment, at least in my opinion.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing about the prices been kind high but thought that was normal especially since there isn't many seller out there.

It's normal, but they don't sell. It's true that they are rare cards, but you need an active market to demand those kind of prices and the market isn't active. I'll pay a decent price for '59s, at least I have, but having your most common cards at $100 or more just won't sell. There are cards I'm interested in, but I'll wait after the auction ends and then I'll contact the seller about doing a BIN at an agreed price or something.

How collectible are the stickers? I am looking to purchase a collection that has 3 of the 1974 bobby cox stickers and 1 1976 bobby cox sticker. Are these $1 stickers or considerably more. Trying to come up with a fair offer for the lot I am trying to buy including these. Thanks for any info.

Considerably more when you're discussing HOFers. I think you could comfortably pay $10 each for the Cox stickers and still do well.

Used my eBay bucks and some other hoarded funds to land this card for my Yaz master set and my 68 Venz set:

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...AS%20front.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...0AS%20back.jpg

This is my 5th Venz Yaz card, but my first one that's a "solo" card, without other players on it. Pretty rough, but happy to have it. Only 5 graded higher. Some paper loss on back, but not enough to obscure his face.

I'm chipping away at a couple of the subsets within my 68 Venz registry. There are 7 Yaz cards in the set and I now have 3/7. And there are 10 All Star cards and I now have 3/10.

Great card! Keep 'em coming.

I need to post the '59s I got. I'll do that tomorrow.

I've had these for awhile, but I've been traveling a lot so I'm finally getting around to posting them. Just 4 to go and I've completed the entire base VZ run.

Wow, the Rice and Pizzarro are really sharp!!