A little grading help
 

I would guess these are about a VG-EX 4 if graded. I am not grading them. have a buyer asking what specific grade I think they are. As many of you know I don't really care about grades and would greatly appreciate your opinion on these 2. There are no creases or wrinkles, Thanks.

4 sounds about right, although both cards look short to me.

100% not trimmed, I have a stack of 54s and they are all the same height. I also just looked at them under a loupe to be sure and they look factory cut to me.

Thanks for the reply:)

Which company? I think even as 4s at PSA, they'd both get OC or MC qualifiers.

Ben,

With no creases or wrinkles, I imagine 4 is pretty close.

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Beware the scratches across the bridge of Larry's nose. Might cause the grade to drop lower.

I believe you have strong 3's. Nice cards!

I'm in agreement with Lou above, I'd grade these PSA VG 3's. SGC possibly VG-EX 4's.

Appreciate everyones help. Deal did not happen so I listed them in the auction section with the entire winning bid going directly to a dog rescue run by a fellow member.