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teetwoohsix 12-04-2009 06:15 PM

Is the UFC considered a sport?
 
I'm just wondering if the UFC is considered a sport,or if any board members are into watching the UFC fights?

Leon 12-04-2009 06:29 PM

Hech yeah
 
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Originally Posted by teetwoohsix (Post 765601)
I'm just wondering if the UFC is considered a sport,or if any board members are into watching the UFC fights?

Whenever I see MMA or UFC on TV I am mesmerized by it. Those guys rock. I definitely think it's a sport and about the toughest one out there....I have even paid on pay per view for a few of the big fights. I don't really "follow" it but I love watching it.

teetwoohsix 12-04-2009 06:41 PM

Right on Leon,ditto that!!I don't "follow" it either,but I sure do enjoy watching the fights.They do have a lot of the fights here in Vegas,usually at Mandalay Bay Arena,but I haven't been to one yet(usually am working).I did go to something similar,not UFC,but an "offshoot",where they had a lot of local fighters(mostly lightweights),and even had a couple of girlfights-I think these fighters are trying to "get" to the UFC............(not the girls)........I forgot what the fight was labeled as,I'll see if I still have the ticket stubs,for it was a couple years ago.Maybe like minor league baseball compared to major league baseball:D

3-2-count 12-04-2009 07:57 PM

No doubt about it, it's a sport!!!
Love it.

ibuysportsephemera 12-04-2009 08:44 PM

MMA is awesome...Dana White is a great promoter and the Ultimate Fighter reality show is one of my favorite TV shows. JM2¢

Abravefan11 12-04-2009 10:19 PM

I don't see how anyone could not consider it a sport. It is sport in it's rawest form.

Strength, speed, stamina, agility, skill, it has it all.

I have to admit that it is tough for me to watch sometimes. Though I know the fighters are skilled in their respective disciplines and choose to be there, the shear brutality can be overwhelming at times.

toppcat 12-05-2009 07:08 AM

Definitley a sport and now a more popular one. ESPN and our local paper (Newsday) are now covering UFC and I have to say while I am not a fan, all the nephews in my family in the 15-25 age group love it. So there is an audience already built is as the sport grows.

barrysloate 12-05-2009 07:53 AM

That sport is much too violent for me. Couldn't they compete in a more friendly manner...say over a game of checkers, or Trivial Pursuit? That would cut the violence considerably.

chaddurbin 12-05-2009 11:47 AM

nothing will surpass pride in my eyes...when sakuraba was taking on the gracies, silva at his very beastly peak, fedor becoming an ice-cold machine, cro cop nogueira etc etc...but ufc have good marketing and they are definitely the face of MMA when it's all said and done.

D. Bergin 12-05-2009 12:27 PM

Well to be technical, I would say MMA is a Sport and UFC is a Sports Organization. ;)

ChiefBenderForever 12-05-2009 05:19 PM

Since Tyson quit boxing the door was opened for something new to come along, so hard to believe how big it's got and how far boxing has fallen. It has grown so fast they really need to be careful so it doesn't implode on them.

David W 12-05-2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHarmonica (Post 765804)
Since Tyson quit boxing the door was opened for something new to come along, so hard to believe how big it's got and how far boxing has fallen. It has grown so fast they really need to be careful so it doesn't implode on them.

Bingo.

Boxing is dead, as their have been no noteworthy heavyweight fights in over a decade.

Without heavyweights, boxing suffers.

MMA has picked up the slack.

Exhibitman 12-05-2009 09:40 PM

Sure it is a sport, just not one I find to be particularly enjoyable to watch. Not that it's too rough, just too sloppy. The fights I've seen end up with a lot of grappling on the canvas, which I don't find to be artful or interesting as a spectator. As far as boxing being dead, hardly. The top PPV events are all boxing and it generates a lot of money. Pacquiao v. Mayweather next spring will likely double the PPV buys on the biggest MMA event ever. The two also have different demographics. MMA is whiter, younger and more America-centric than boxing.

BTW, anyone see the Williams-Martinez fight on HBO tonight? Holy crap, what a war! The two best middlweights in the world going toe to toe for 12 rounds.

D. Bergin 12-05-2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 765857)
Sure it is a sport, just not one I find to be particularly enjoyable to watch. Not that it's too rough, just too sloppy. The fights I've seen end up with a lot of grappling on the canvas, which I don't find to be artful or interesting as a spectator. As far as boxing being dead, hardly. The top PPV events are all boxing and it generates a lot of money. Pacquiao v. Mayweather next spring will likely double the PPV buys on the biggest MMA event ever. The two also have different demographics. MMA is whiter, younger and more America-centric than boxing.

BTW, anyone see the Williams-Martinez fight on HBO tonight? Holy crap, what a war! The two best middlweights in the world going toe to toe for 12 rounds.


Thank you.


It's amazing that in a dead sport like boxing, Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquiao just split about a $40 million dollar purse for a non-Heavyweight fight.

The top MMA attractions usually earn less then a million a fight. Usually well under.

Also, you want to talk about exploiting fighters. Dana White makes Don King and Bob Arum seem like philanthropists in comparison.

rhettyeakley 12-05-2009 10:45 PM

I enjoy watching both boxing and MMA, each for completely different reasons.

I like boxing for the classic strategy. I appreciate when a fighter has the chance to systematically take apart a lesser opponent over the course of a fight-something that a fighter rarely has the opportunity to do in the shorter MMA fights (although some MMA fights are longer than 3 rounds)

I like MMA for the interesting matchups that can occur--take tonights UFC fight between Roy Nelson and Brendan Shaub- experience vs. athleticism. MMA certainly is the modern incarnation of Gladiatorial competition--where they would purposely match up different style fighters for an interesting fight. However, when you have two grapplers fighting it gets pretty dull-it's like watching olympic wrestling.

Like I said I love 'em both and don't really understand why boxing fans have such a problem w/ MMA as you can appreciate it for what it is--something completely different. On the flip side I don't understand MMA fans that think boxing is boring-- sure, it can be, but so can a bad MMA fight. I don't agree that MMA is becoming popular at the expense of boxing. I think they can both co-exist and be healthy. However, I still think boxing gloves should be reduced in size slightly.
-Rhett

teetwoohsix 12-05-2009 11:22 PM

Thanks to all who responded(and those who didn't:D)-
I appreciate and respect everyone's opinion.I could have phrased the title better,for I do know it's a sport-I didn't know if it would be an acceptable topic in this forum or not.
I appreciate both boxing and MMA.Funny story-about a week or so ago my wife and I were at The Palms casino messin' around,and we noticed a group of guys-about 4 guys who were no less than say 6'6" tall,and one guy who looked dwarfed compared to the others.I mean,these big guys looked like serious goliaths-would not mess with them.
My wife said"who are all those bodyguards surrounding?"
I thought maybe it was some famous rapper or something,until I got a better look-it was Mr.Mayweather!!No disrespect to Mr.Mayweather,but he looked a lot smaller in person than the guy I'm used to seeing in the ring(maybe it was the because of the giants he was with).
I do look forward to Mayweathers next fight!!!
Regards,Clayton

ChiefBenderForever 12-06-2009 12:04 AM

Boxing isn't dead but has faded into the background just like baseball did which is really a shame. I blame the remote control symdrome of todays culture. Ali was once the most popular sports personality in the world and today many people don't know any boxers names. Football has become americas national pastime, but take away fantasy football and gambling and how many true fans would be left ? Anyone can wake up monday morning and be all caught up on the whold nfl week in 5 minutes so it's very convienient to keep tabs as opposed to other sports. I will say without any qualms that Nascar is not a sport !

Exhibitman 12-06-2009 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by teetwoohsix (Post 765870)
No disrespect to Mr.Mayweather,but he looked a lot smaller in person than the guy I'm used to seeing in the ring(maybe it was the because of the giants he was with).

Regards,Clayton

He is 5'7" and fights at 147#.

D. Bergin 12-06-2009 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 765896)
He is 5'7" and fights at 147#.


Also, unlike most other fighters........he probably walks around at around 147. Most other fighters put on a bit of bulk above their fighting weight between fights.

Jerry G 12-06-2009 07:49 PM

Pssst..hey, man. Wanna buy a gem-mint Kimbo Slice rookie card?
 
I love 'em both!

One difference that I have noticed is that MMA fighters do not go undefeated for very long. Why? Because they will fight anybody! Which makes for great events for fans. Top boxers on the other hand, will have some gaudy records. This is because they are groomed and managed to score the BIG payday. They will run up their records against opponents that may not rank in the same neighborhood. This builds huge anticipation for the big fight until the money is "right." Probably a good business decision, but as a fan I'm not in that business. I want to see the best fighters fight each other today.

That being said, I have enjoyed some great boxing matches between two guys that are nearly anonymous. Same with MMA.

Ring or cage? Let's get it on!

smtjoy 12-07-2009 10:37 AM

I like em both too. A good fight is a good fight in my eyes, ring or cage matters not.

Republicaninmass 12-08-2009 05:58 PM

I think MMA is more action packed than recent boxing matches. How many 10 second KO's are there in Boxing since Tyson? Also, MMA seems more like and art rather than "how many punches can one take to the head" I havent watched boxing since Hagler/Leonard


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