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steve B 01-17-2011 09:15 AM

T206 offset transfers - A change of opinion
 
I had a recent experience in another hobby that has made me reconsider my thoughts about offset transfers on T206s. Those are the backwards inpressions of the backs that you sometimes see on the fronts and the less common backwards fronts you sometimes see on the backs.

I recently bought a couple card proof versions of stamps from a seller in the UK. These are on a cardboard that's similar to the cardboard used for T206s, maybe a bit thinner, and uncoated on both sides to more readily accept the ink from the engraved plates.

Both were shippped in a small glassine envelope, with stiffeners inside a regular envelope. When I opened them up to my surprise the 6c Post office dept had left a nice offset transfer on the back of the 6c Justice dept!
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...pictureid=3023
The last printings of these were I think 1881 , maybe as late as the 1890's. But for sure no later than 1900. So this happened 110-130 or more years after printing. And I'm positive the transfer is new since the sellers description had nice clear scans of both front and back.

In the past I believed that the offset transfers had to have happened during production, or shortly after unless some chemical was involved. I'm not so sure now. The very clear and complete ones probably were during production, but I now believe the lighter ones especially in black may have happened much later due to stacking and pressure. And if the black ink was slow to dry, the others may have been slow as well.

Steve B

Ladder7 09-12-2012 08:12 AM

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Steve, Interesting. I'd like to see scans of this stamp please!

My t206 example (back "ghost" print) was found in a stack of thousands, with no others found. These were all attic stored vertically, subj to extreme heat/cold/humid/dry in cigar boxes for generations and no others like it in the group. Incidentally, there were several blurred wet-sheet transfers of card backs to fronts of some other t206s.

Thought Id share an interesting discovery. After having this c1898 photo for a long time, I hadn't noticed the "wet-sheet transfer" of Joe Jackson before. This may have been from a lith or photo and likely caused from tph (time/pressure/humidity). But it is blurred. PM sent

atx840 09-12-2012 08:55 AM

Neat find Steve, I think you are right that most of these are likely from storage. Would like to see a scan of stamps.

Steve your Gilbert is definitely different then a common WSTs. In hand these look like a direct print due to factory error. I'll try to get some high res scans up. Johnny has a Cycle advert printed on the front, it is very crisp and clear compared to a WST.

I really do need to look into the printers and plates they used to figure these ghosts out : )


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