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Sean1125 04-27-2014 08:36 AM

REA Winnings..... And losings.
 
Won every Brown Hindu that I could see, lots of other T206's. HOLY COW lot 379. I got SPANKED. Had a 20k bid placed and it ended at 30k! What did you guys win?

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336
383
401
437
452

MattyC 04-27-2014 08:39 AM

Why don't you change the title to "...And Losers Thread." I whiffed on the e90-2 Wagner and the D304 Cobb sailed past my max late in the game. The Cobb Back went apeshit, as did the Ruth-- but those were kind of expected.

bobbyw8469 04-27-2014 08:44 AM

The lone lot I bid on went for a stupid high amount. None of the cards were particularly rare, and you could have piece-mealed it on Ebay for a WHOLE lot less money. I think some of the bidders get caught up in the "REA" auction fever, and all sanity goes out the window. Probably cause they send you a pretty slick, color catalog in the mail for FREE the size of the old Sears catalogs!

scotgreb 04-27-2014 08:48 AM

Just the Hilton Smith for me . . .

Got close on a few of the T206 lots but no luck.

If anyone here won the T207 lot, please shoot me a PM.

Scott

pencil1974 04-27-2014 08:55 AM

I know who I am consigning with in the fall, the prices I saw were crazy and way above anyone else I have consigned with before. So here I come REA. lol

Great pick ups Sean.

atx840 04-27-2014 08:58 AM

Congrats. If anyone won the 1785 T206 OM/EPDG lot I would be interested in a few.

chernieto 04-27-2014 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1269612)
The lone lot I bid on went for a stupid high amount. None of the cards were particularly rare, and you could have piece-mealed it on Ebay for a WHOLE lot less money. I think some of the bidders get caught up in the "REA" auction fever, and all sanity goes out the window. Probably cause they send you a pretty slick, color catalog in the mail for FREE the size of the old Sears catalogs!

Most everything I bid on met the same fate. The T206's lots of EPDG, other got crazy & the lot 379 - the T206's attached to an album. Amazing front condition cards - but 30k + commission. Wow ! Speechless

ullmandds 04-27-2014 09:10 AM

I was the underbidder on the e94 partial set and the e97 set...if anyone won and is piecing out...pls contact me.

ullmandds@gmail.com

LKeeler 04-27-2014 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1269610)
Why don't you change the title to "...And Losers Thread." I whiffed on the e90-2 Wagner and the D304 Cobb sailed past my max late in the game. The Cobb Back went apeshit, as did the Ruth-- but those were kind of expected.

I whiffed on the Wagner too. Was too rich for my blood, in addition I everything else I was interested in. Was surprised by how much the Authentic graded cards went for.

e107collector 04-27-2014 09:19 AM

Rea
 
I put an initial bid on the Terre Haute card with Mordecai, but didn't pursue it. I went after the J=K Wagner, but jumped ship towards the end.

Tony

Leon 04-27-2014 09:21 AM

Changed track a few times and no way was I going to pay what it took to win what I really wanted, so ended up with the 1918 Zeenut, the Tattoo Orbit 5 poster lot (those are quite cool), Crawfords trade card and beat up 3 photo lot. But didn't really fill any holes in my collection. How did that happen?

bobbyw8469 04-27-2014 09:26 AM

Quote:

How did that happen?
LOL...we call that "poop or get off the pot"....sounds like you got off the pot! :p

barrysloate 04-27-2014 09:29 AM

After being out of the hobby as a collector for many years, I won my first lot in a long time last night. But it wasn't cards- it was a collection of vintage books (what else). And it was a great deal, I was shocked I got it. Maybe one of the very few bargains in the entire auction.

peterb69 04-27-2014 09:29 AM

My budget was totally outclassed in this auction. Some T206's went for way more then I thought they would

Runscott 04-27-2014 09:29 AM

I only had one initial ceiling bid hold up - the two Home Run Baker autographs. Won two other items that required a bit of unplanned early morning enthusiasm.

shammus 04-27-2014 09:40 AM

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Won 6 lots in all, and was happy with the prices. Most went for under what I had estimated. I picked up the J=K Wagner, the e93 Dooin w/ e97 back, the t205 Collins with the ghost, two lots of Ramly's including the 19 card lot w/ Pelty and a small group of 5 e107 commons.

Will likely have some t204 or maybe even e107 extras once I get it all sorted out. Will be out of town today but back tonight to start looking through things.

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shammus 04-27-2014 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 1269634)
After being out of the hobby as a collector for many years, I won my first lot in a long time last night. But it wasn't cards- it was a collection of vintage books (what else). And it was a great deal, I was shocked I got it. Maybe one of the very few bargains in the entire auction.

That's awesome Barry, congrats on your lot, I remember you always had an interest in the books. I actually stumbled into a small lot of books in the auction and thought of you. Glad to see you still involved :)

Al C.risafulli 04-27-2014 09:43 AM

When I fell asleep last night after 3AM I was the high bidder on the 1888 New York Giants team photo at $2,750. I woke up at 6 to discover I'd been outbid. Many times. It closed at $11,000, with 20 bids placed between 3:30 and 4:45 AM.

I did win the 1915 Newark Peppers team photo (the "N" in my avatar refers to the Peppers), and for that I am thrilled.

Just a great auction, every single time.

-Al

MattyC 04-27-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LKeeler (Post 1269626)
I whiffed on the Wagner too. Was too rich for my blood, in addition I everything else I was interested in.

Well at least we both had the same good taste, Luke! I am actually very happy for the card. I've long believed the e90-2 Wagner to be tragically undervalued, and had hopes at one time of obtaining several. I know of at least one other collector who owns a few of the extant 105 grades examples (probably less factoring in crackouts and crosses).

I mean, considering it's a Wagner portrait from that age, has such an attractive, bold color background, and is desirable to so many collectors as an alternative to The One, I was waiting for this card to take off one day.

I was thinking of selling mine at one point to help another card happen; man, am I glad I held it.

Someone absolutely stole one off ebay a little while back. The auction never even popped on my saved searches for some reason. That one still pains me. Not really the card for a quick ebay auction, in my opinion. It deserves a long time up there with a proper write-up or should be in a catalog.

When we look at what some of the other Wagner portraits go for, I gotta believe the remaining affordable ones will gain ground and narrow the price gap as years go by. Trying to build a well-rounded collection, a Wagner portrait kind of feels like a must-have, and there aren't many affordable choices for the collector.

btcarfagno 04-27-2014 10:00 AM

I was able to get the high grade Scrapps lot with the two sets of attached pieces and I picked up the Worch Cigar lot of 16. Thought both were among the few bargains. Will be breaking them up if anyone is interested.

Tom C

RGold 04-27-2014 10:18 AM

I bowed out of the bidding on the 52 Topps Mantle SGC 80 when it crossed $30,000. I kept thinking about the Psa 7 one that I sold for $14,000 over 10 years ago which makes it hard for me to cough up over 40 grand for a grade lower now.

On the other hand, someone out there paid over $35,000 for a PSA 4.5 a few months back. :eek::eek::eek:

I also bid on the lot of 36 1933 Goudey Proofs. I thought under $5,000 was a reasonable deal but I only really wanted the two Pepper Martin cards, and did not feel like having to sell off 34 others.

I always enjoy REA, but usually Heritage is where I find more of the cards I am interested in for my collection which is heavy 1930's.

Congrats to all the winners. :D:D:D

Wildfireschulte 04-27-2014 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 1269634)
After being out of the hobby as a collector for many years, I won my first lot in a long time last night. But it wasn't cards- it was a collection of vintage books (what else). And it was a great deal, I was shocked I got it. Maybe one of the very few bargains in the entire auction.

Barry - I agree, the vintage books were a steal. The Church and Cinncinati books by themselves are worth more than the hammer price. great buy - let me know if you are selling either Cobb book.

gnaz01 04-27-2014 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 1269634)
After being out of the hobby as a collector for many years, I won my first lot in a long time last night. But it wasn't cards- it was a collection of vintage books (what else). And it was a great deal, I was shocked I got it. Maybe one of the very few bargains in the entire auction.

I was the underbidder Barry and saw I got outbid at around 2:30 in the afternoon, and I guess it stuck. Congrats. If you want to part with the Church book, please let me know.

I was outbid on the only other lot I REALLY wanted at 2:36AM (I couldn't stay up :mad:) was the 1939 Burdick books. My high bid of $4500 was topped by one bid :(

Oh well, win some, lose some.

Greg

E93 04-27-2014 10:55 AM

Brian,
Awesome J=K Wagner pickup!

I won a few lots, but this is the one I am most excited about.
JimB

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...%20fb.tiff.jpg

1880nonsports 04-27-2014 10:57 AM

Greg
 
feeling your pain as I was an underbidder on that lot as well although I dropped a couple bids earlier. The 1939 has been on my list a long time. I once passed at 300. or so (1995) before I was putting a "run" together and a few months ago I was offered a copy with a replaced cover for around 1000. but the replacement bothered me and I keep convincing myself I'll find a nice one at the money I want to pay or I'll do without sad as that may be to me. Needless to say I've already had to revise my buy price a few times based on market experience. Apparently the bar has been raised again after the 4000.+ showing last time out in REA and this hammer. My biggest problem in the Edwards lot was determining the value of the other half of the lot. That being said - coming up empty last few years even at 1000. - I've upped my buy price to 1500 - probably just more mental masturbation.

MattyC 04-27-2014 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by E93 (Post 1269671)
Brian,
Awesome J=K Wagner pickup!

I won a few lots, but this is the one I am most excited about.
JimB

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...%20fb.tiff.jpg

That was one I thought was stellar. Major congrats on that one.

MattyC 04-27-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RGold (Post 1269650)
I bowed out of the bidding on the 52 Topps Mantle SGC 80 when it crossed $30,000. I kept thinking about the Psa 7 one that I sold for $14,000 over 10 years ago which makes it hard for me to cough up over 40 grand for a grade lower now.

On the other hand, someone out there paid over $35,000 for a PSA 4.5 a few months back. :eek::eek::eek:

I also bid on the lot of 36 1933 Goudey Proofs. I thought under $5,000 was a reasonable deal but I only really wanted the two Pepper Martin cards, and did not feel like having to sell off 34 others.

I always enjoy REA, but usually Heritage is where I find more of the cards I am interested in for my collection which is heavy 1930's.

Congrats to all the winners. :D:D:D

Ten year old prices can sure be fun to look at. When it comes to 2014 prices, though, they really aren't too helpful. I suppose bread was much cheaper ten years ago than it is today; if I refuse to buy bread today though, I might wind up starving ;)

I was the winner of that Mantle you referenced. For me, it's really not about the sticker grade with certain cards; I believe that with some cards you can throw the numerical grade out the window; I believe that rarity in terms of eye appeal completely trumps technical assessments based on arbitrarily written grading guidelines.

I can see how viewing pricing through the prism of grades and VCP grids can make one wonder how a card with a lower grade can command far more than a higher grade. The key to processing those seemingly anomalous data points is to put focus on the cards themselves and not the holders and grades. With 1952 Mantles, a study of all past sales bears out that perfect centering and a clean blue background is much rarer than a corner that merits a grade of 6 or 7. And if one is seeking such a centered and clean-surfaced example, precious few come up for sale-- hence the competition for it and the price.

The REA example was quite nice; exhibits the usual tilt but very bright and clean in other respects. I trust the owner is very happy :)

barrysloate 04-27-2014 11:09 AM

K. Farrell- after I get the lot I will decide what I want to keep and what I want to sell. Will let you know.

Greg- I actually put my bid in around 9:00, then decided to walk away assuming it would go much higher. But that bid held up the whole night. I'm glad the T206 crowd pays no attention to the books.

And I'll let you know if I decide to part with the Church.

shernan30 04-27-2014 11:09 AM

Just got official word that Lot 295, which I partnered with a board member on, is my first ever REA win. It's also my first Cobb, Matty, WaJo, and Young cards!! This has been an awesome week for my collection with REA and a few OJ pickups earlier this week. Not so much for the piggy bank.


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barrysloate 04-27-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by shammus (Post 1269641)
That's awesome Barry, congrats on your lot, I remember you always had an interest in the books. I actually stumbled into a small lot of books in the auction and thought of you. Glad to see you still involved :)

Thanks Brian. Happy to see you did well too. Thought the book lot would be a good project for me, to dip my toes back into the hobby.

Leon 04-27-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 1880nonsports (Post 1269673)
feeling your pain as I was an underbidder on that lot as well although I dropped a couple bids earlier. The 1939 has been on my list a long time. I once passed at 300. or so (1995) before I was putting a "run" together and a few months ago I was offered a copy with a replaced cover for around 1000. but the replacement bothered me and I keep convincing myself I'll find a nice one at the money I want to pay or I'll do without sad as that may be to me. Needless to say I've already had to revise my buy price a few times based on market experience. Apparently the bar has been raised again after the 4000.+ showing last time out in REA and this hammer. My biggest problem in the Edwards lot was determining the value of the other half of the lot. That being said - coming up empty last few years even at 1000. - I've upped my buy price to 1500 - probably just more mental masturbation.

I spoke with another hobby publication collector last night during the auction concerning that lot. We figured about a 75% - 25% valuation on the 1939 Catalog and the 1930s Card Collectors Bulletins respectively. If that was the case then the Catalog was around 4200, with 2 additional Yearly Supplements in it. REA has gotten the top prices I have seen for these early guides. They are really scarce. We need to remember there were only 500 printed, 75 years ago. I still need a 1956 reprint of the 1953 edition if anyone has one laying around :).

triwak 04-27-2014 11:14 AM

I was the underbidder on the 1933 Philadelphia Stars Negro League PC with Jud Wilson and Biz Mackey. Being the underbidder sucks! :p

Runscott 04-27-2014 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al C.risafulli (Post 1269642)
When I fell asleep last night after 3AM I was the high bidder on the 1888 New York Giants team photo at $2,750. I woke up at 6 to discover I'd been outbid. Many times. It closed at $11,000, with 20 bids placed between 3:30 and 4:45 AM.

I did win the 1915 Newark Peppers team photo (the "N" in my avatar refers to the Peppers), and for that I am thrilled.

Just a great auction, every single time.

-Al

Yeah, just after 3:00 a.m. it was about $3K and I was wishing I had put in a marker bid. But it would have been irrelevant.

Al, you have great taste.

ngrow9 04-27-2014 11:19 AM

I was outbid on the Federal League document collection after 4am...I was actually still awake, but decided to let it go in light of other recent purchases. I thought the winner got a good deal, though. If the winner is on the board, and is planning on breaking up the collection, let me know as I would be interested in one or two of the pieces.

I also bailed out early on the Federal League Hal Chase Day/Tinker Day program package. I've been wanting the Hal Chase program (I discuss that game and the resulting legal proceedings in a book I wrote), but anticipated the set would go for more than I was comfortable paying. Congrats to the winner, and keep me in mind if you ever decide to move that piece.

wolf441 04-27-2014 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1269631)
Changed track a few times and no way was I going to pay what it took to win what I really wanted, so ended up with the 1918 Zeenut, the Tattoo Orbit 5 poster lot (those are quite cool), Crawfords trade card and beat up 3 photo lot. But didn't really fill any holes in my collection. How did that happen?

+1, Leon. I was outbid on all of the T206 lots that I wanted and then started talking myself into bidding on stuff that didn't even fit into my collecting niche. In the end, I look a pass on everything.

It reminded me of a quarterback inside the red zone in football. Sometimes, if no one is open, the best play is to just throw the ball out of the end zone and go back to the drawing board...:D

Leon 04-27-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf441 (Post 1269694)
+1, Leon. I was outbid on all of the T206 lots that I wanted and then started talking myself into bidding on stuff that didn't even fit into my collecting niche. In the end, I look a pass on everything.

It reminded me of a quarterback inside the red zone in football. Sometimes, if no one is open, the best play is to just throw the ball out of the end zone and go back to the drawing board...:D

As a type collector and ancillary-item-to-our-cards collector, I can justify almost any direction I go. :eek: I have a ton of advertising things but they aren't my primary interest (cards are). So the biggest purchase for me was for things (Tattoo Orbit baseball signage) I likely won't see again, in the completeness of this small group. Made sense to me. :o Then right before I absolutely fell asleep (mere seconds) I hit a bid for the 1918 Zeenut, which was an upgrade for me, then almost before my fingers left the bid key I fell asleep. It was like I was giving one last gasp of breath to the auction. Also, I barely got into the chat room last night as I felt a bit off kilter. I think it was all of the ass kicking I took in the auction. Where is that 1915 REA thread? Better start preparing early.

rhettyeakley 04-27-2014 11:31 AM

I ended up with the 1918 Zeenut lot of 18 (of which I think I need 8) and then also won the T207/T206 lot of 16 w/ the T207 Cycle Donlin and the T207 blank back (I have never seen a short print T207 w a blank back so I'm excited about those two cards from the lot-- pretty well hidden little lot)

MyGuyTy 04-27-2014 11:37 AM

The "REAness" seems to take a hold on many people....they just can't stop themselves from overbidding, then they wake up with buyer's remorse and a new thread is started telling us about it. Then ultimately the item/items don't even get paid for or are immediately put back up for sale with the buyer willing to take a huge loss because he admittingly way overpaid......a sad but true vicious cycle when it comes to REA/Goodwin lots.

If more people would exercise some sort of DISCIPLINE when bidding, these things wouldn't happen ;)

bcornell 04-27-2014 11:44 AM

Bounced back from last year's REA shutout. The free shipping makes everything seem like a bargain :)

The Fleischmann cards came from Bruce Dorskind's collection. This is the 4th McKechnie I've acquired from that scarce set, due to some cosmic weirdness (there are many others I've yet to see).

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...em_30173_1.jpg http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...em_30175_1.jpg http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...em_30641_1.jpg http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...em_30679_1.jpg

1880nonsports 04-27-2014 11:51 AM

Leon
 
guess great minds think alike as I put the acc at 4000. of the total. Still seems high but apparently not to 3/4 other people. I'll look for the '56 as I think I have an extra in "the box".
Not enough time has gone by for me to go out in public - but I guess privately on a chatboard in the anonimity of the cyberweb I can bemoan my crushing defeat last night. The round album. The great equalizer. Granddaddy of them all. After losing all my bids by 2am I decided the time had come for one last shot over the bow. One last bid on the LAST album I need to conclude my framed "run". I was barely conscious - there was no time for reason - I hit the bid button.
It had been agonizing enough waiting the month for the final day of bidding on my interested lots and couple/three consignments. That last 2 hours from 2:15 to 4:59:12 when only criminals and thieves are awake on the beast coast were the toughest. At 4:59 the lights flickered - death had laid eggs in my wounds (Garcia Marquez) - mighty Casey had struckout. And so the struggle continues. First time ever I was goose-egged without a single lot won. On the positive side - I can now afford to go to a baseball game...............

RGold 04-27-2014 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1269678)
Ten year old prices can sure be fun to look at. When it comes to 2014 prices, though, they really aren't too helpful. I suppose bread was much cheaper ten years ago than it is today; if I refuse to buy bread today though, I might wind up starving ;)

I was the winner of that Mantle you referenced. For me, it's really not about the sticker grade with certain cards; I believe that with some cards you can throw the numerical grade out the window; I believe that rarity in terms of eye appeal completely trumps technical assessments based on arbitrarily written grading guidelines.

I can see how viewing pricing through the prism of grades and VCP grids can make one wonder how a card with a lower grade can command far more than a higher grade. The key to processing those seemingly anomalous data points is to put focus on the cards themselves and not the holders and grades. With 1952 Mantles, a study of all past sales bears out that perfect centering and a clean blue background is much rarer than a corner that merits a grade of 6 or 7. And if one is seeking such a centered and clean-surfaced example, precious few come up for sale-- hence the competition for it and the price.

The REA example was quite nice; exhibits the usual tilt but very bright and clean in other respects. I trust the owner is very happy :)

Oops. Sorry. If you're happy, I'm happy for you. Glad to see it was a bonafide sale. And, not one of those cards where the buyer was someone that was "guaranteed" a bump in grade. Enjoy it. :D:D:D

1880nonsports 04-27-2014 12:07 PM

Bill
 
LOVE that Andrews KBAT! It manages to capture a rather comical moment with the juxtaposition of a seemingly professional photo shoot featuring Andrews posing on the field and his apparent state of undress.....

MattyC 04-27-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RGold (Post 1269712)
Oops. Sorry. If you're happy, I'm happy for you. Glad to see it was a bonafide sale. And, not one of those cards where the buyer was someone that was "guaranteed" a bump in grade. Enjoy it. :D:D:D

Thanks, RG. Yup, I can vouch for the legitimacy of the sale. It will be with me for a very long time-- or at least until another dead-centered, perfect aqua background example surfaces with superior corners and thus in a higher holder... Though I'd imagine such a specimen would wind up costing quite a bit more than I paid for mine, and quite a bit more than the historical average of average examples in whatever grade it will be, and then of course who knows when such an eye-appealing chimera will surface? ;)

Peter_Spaeth 04-27-2014 12:23 PM

Chacun a son gout. :D:D

Bicem 04-27-2014 12:24 PM

my wins...

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...em_30366_1.jpg

(Dorskind Collection)

RGold 04-27-2014 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1269718)
Chacun a son gout. :D:D

Taste dis. :D:D:D

insidethewrapper 04-27-2014 12:32 PM

I was one of the low bidders on the N172 McGreachery (White) card. I dropped out at $10k, it went for $ 110,000 ( $ 130,350 with premium) with a Grade of (1). What does a T206 Wagner graded 1 sell for ?

tiger8mush 04-27-2014 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 1269719)

Congrats Jeff, that was the sole lot I was after and u kicked my butt!

bcornell 04-27-2014 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyGuyTy (Post 1269706)
...Then ultimately the item/items don't even get paid for or are immediately put back up for sale with the buyer willing to take a huge loss because he admittingly way overpaid......a sad but true vicious cycle when it comes to REA/Goodwin lots.

Buddy - If you win an REA lot, you pay. Rob has always been vigilant about that point. Goodwin may be another story...

Peter_Spaeth 04-27-2014 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RGold (Post 1269721)
Taste dis. :D:D:D

Not to mon gout, RG, sorry.


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