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Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>for whomever and whatever you want. I did. It's an especially great day to be an American, so go out and exercise the right people have died to give you. Here in AZ, we have some controversial propositions and contested local races that need attention and the people's voice, and I'm sure the same can be said for all of you. Please, be counted!!!
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>This morning my wife and I walked to the polls at 6:15 and the line was already around the block. Even at that hour it took us nearly an hour. It's encouraging to see the enthusiasm generated by this election. Hope everybody makes the effort to vote today.
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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>If you choose not to vote, you have forfeited your voice and have no right to complain about any government policies.
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>It took me literally one minute to walk in and vote this morning. My understanding is that, in our small community, the early voting was horrendous......Everyone should vote.....
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Posted By: <b>Neal</b><p>The Mrs and I voted and it literally took a whopping 10 minutes from the time we went in and came out! Even got our free small coffee at Starbucks just for voting! The line at Starbucks was much longer!!! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>
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Posted By: <b>Peter Thomas</b><p>In line @ 6:15 polls opened @ 7:00 - out by 7:15. My wife was better organized and voted by mail. Sorry pair on the ballot for House could not bring myself to vote for either.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>My excruciatingly long wait in line this morning was approximately 22 seconds. Took me about 2 minutes to fill out the ballot only because I had to fully read the Amendment votes on the ballot...wording is always tricky on those.
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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>I voted by mail about two weeks ago. <br /><br />It's a lot easier and the candidates and managers of the proposition campaigns will weed out the mailed in ballots form their lists which means you start to get less crap in your mail box.
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>One thing that struck me about voting this morning is I have been living in the same neighborhood for 35 years, and I always vote in the same place, yet the antiquated voting machines we used are exactly the same as the ones from the 1970's- and they were old then. With all the technology we have, why do we still vote using these old tin cans? Makes you wonder if all the votes will be accurately counted.
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Posted By: <b>Anthony S.</b><p>Voted by mail two weeks ago. I still have to vote in Ohio, Missouri, and Florida today though, so it's looking like a long day.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Barry, it's the new voting machines that you have to worry about.
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Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Barry, <br /><br />There was a good article about this in USA Today (last week, sometime.)<br /><br /><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-28-votingequipment_N.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-28-votingequipment_N.htm</a><br /><br />The use of the old mechanical machines has dropped off dramatically in the last few years, but like everything else, change is expensive and not always well managed. A lot of money has been wasted.
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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Voted. No line. <br /><br /><br />When I was a kid my Grandfather told me to always vote first thing in the morning, that someone may well die on election day, and if they died before they voted then the candidates depending on that voter would be without the vote. Years later I think what my Grandfather was telling me was that I was always going in too many directions at one time, and I needed to vote early, because if I put it off I'd mess around and not get to the polls by the 6pm closing time. Still, I vote with a smile when I vote in the morning, thinking of my Grandfather's words.
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I've heard the newer ones have issues, so maybe I should be thankful for the old ones. It's a metal booth with a ratty curtain, looks more like an army blanket, kind of like one Fred Flintstone might use. But if it's secure so be it.
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Posted By: <b>jdrum</b><p>I would wait 5 hours for those interminable political commercials to go away. Does anyone believe anything that appears in a political TV commercial? Each candidate's summation of the average American voter = Moron, they'll believe anything.
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Posted By: <b>Shawn Chambers</b><p>Well, here in good ole KY, we have been "blessed" with long lines. My wife and I got in line at 6:40 and finished at 8:15. Still worth every minute! The line when we left was just as long as ever...this should be a fantastic turnout.<br /><br />Shawn
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Posted By: <b>DaveW</b><p> Here in California the wait to vote was only a few minutes at 8:15am. <br />The workers said that at 7am, the line was out the door - so I'm glad<br />I waited a while. They got rid of the old punch card voting and all<br />of the machines - today we just voted with a pen. Just draw a line between<br />two dots and you're done. <br />- Dave<br />
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>The headline on Drudge this morning said "professor ousted after tearing down McCain yard sign". I said to myself could it possibly be him....but it wasn't.<br /><br />Web sites say heavy voting almost everywhere in both democratic and republican areas.
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Posted By: <b>jay wolt</b><p>Out here in the sticks of PA, the lines were so long<br />at 9:00, I came back w/ the wife at 11:00 and we still<br />had to wait 45 minutes.<br /><br />Worth it though, we all should have a say in our election.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Your vote is probably going to decide this election Jay.<br /><br />DOWN WITH THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE!!!!!!!1
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Dan--I pray that you are right and that Jay's vote does decide it. Jay lives deep in Repub territory<br /><br />Jay--Murtha isn't your congressman is he?
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Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>We both stayed home today, though not due to Election Day and went to vote at Noon at the local elementary school (we live on Long Island) We waited 2 minutes, not bad for only one machine (we used to have 2) but I noted I was voter #305 which is more than we usually have for an entire day and early evening on Election Day. We must have just hit a lull.<br /><br />By all media accounts, turnout is extremely heavy.
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Posted By: <b>S Gross</b><p>Less than 5 min. in Savannah.<br /><br />Gas $2.26 at El Cheapo.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />........... and Bob Barr is one vote closer to the White House.
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Posted By: <b>Brock</b><p>You guys do know that are votes dont matter. We really dont chose who is president or not. The elected representatives that make up the electoral college are the ones who chose the president and also the vice.
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Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>Very heavy turnout in my Manhattan district (very heavily Democratic <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> ).<br />Took me 30 minutes, the lines were around the block at the public school where I vote and I have never seen lines even go into the street.<br />Glad to see that this thread has remained civilized, unlike the prior political thread which was well represented by left, center, right and NEANDERTHAL.<br />==<br /><br />I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br />Unknown author <br />--<br />We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br />No retreat baby, no surrender.<br />The Boss
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Just took me 2 mins on the Upper East side -- of course going at 2 pm helped.
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>You must have watched GMA this morning. They said 10am and 2pm was best......<br /><br />Richard S- I agree......I am pleasantly surprised this thread has stayed civil this long. I am not counting it out though <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>.....
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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>is there an election today? for what?
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Posted By: <b>Fred Y</b><p>Here in RI I went in a little after noon at the grade school building & there was only 1 other person voting at the time!<br /><br />Connected my arrows w/ the black marker, slid the ballot into the counting machine & was on my way in about 5 mins!<br /><br />Took me longer than that to get a small coffee at the Dunkin' Donut drivethru!
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Posted By: <b>jay wolt</b><p>Dan - Cool! I like the power!!!<br /><br />Jim - No our Congressman running is Phill Avillo (Dem) & Todd Platts (Rep)
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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>I voted yesterday morning in an attempt to beat the lines and still had to wait an hour. Strangely enough everyone I've talked to that voted today didn't have to wait at all. Oh well, I'm just glad to be able to do it!
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Joe- the election is actually tomorrow. Today is just to register.
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Posted By: <b>Richard Dwyer</b><p>California has the Gay Marriage proposition. If you vote no, Bubba and all his boyfriends in prison can get married. Vote YES to end gay marriage!
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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>barry - <br /><br />touché !
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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>No lines here in the East Cleveland suburbs this afternoon.
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Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>Nice.<br /><br />-Al
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Joe- how do you get the accent mark on the "e" of touche?
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Posted By: <b>Bob Pomilla</b><p>Voted mid afternoon here on the east side of Manhattan and it took maybe ten minutes, all told. Most of that time was spent waiting for one dull wit, who was apparently taken aback that he couldn't find Calvin Coolidge on the ballot. <br /><br />The election workers said they were swamped in the AM however - mostly young people - that Bob Barr sure can bring out the vote.
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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>"Joe- how do you get the accent mark on the "e" of touche?"<br /><br /><br />î doñt séè whåt marks yoü are talking about ™ ® ©
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Posted By: <b>Samuel</b><p><a href="http://www.mesweet.net/altkeysymbols.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.mesweet.net/altkeysymbols.html</a>
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>That looks too complicated for me, but thanks.
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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>"That looks too complicated for me, but thanks."<br /><br />Barry:<br /><br />That's why they have those voting machines that are from the 70s in your neighborhood. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Cat- I would say touche but I am unable to spell it! <img src="/images/happy.gif" alt="happy.gif">
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Posted By: <b>Richie</b><p>Took a whooping 10 mins in Queens NY today.
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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>In St Paul, MN...It took me 10 minutes this morning at 9:30 am, only becauase I sat down with a clipboard and relaxed while my girlfriend had to register. IT was an ideal time to vote!
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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>did anyone else just see that 'hologram' reporter on CNN?<br><br>that was incredible.<br><br><br>very cool stuff.
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Posted By: <b>Michael Steele</b><p>Bloomington, MN today around 2:30pm. 10 minutes. Heard it was busier in the AM.
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Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>I had to wait in line for a little over an hour in the AM. My wife went in the afternoon and it took about 2 minutes.
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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>Whatever the outcome, the involvement of so many new voters and young voters is great. I went to the poll at 7:00 when it opened and it was about 25 minutes in line. <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Can I just get the damn addresses for which of you bums I have to send checks to? <img src="/images/happy.gif" alt="happy.gif">
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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>Jeff....<br><br>I am sending you my address now.<br><br><br>start sending checks.<br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Ken McMillan</b><p>voted early by mail here in Arizona. nice to avoid the lines. By the way, where in Arizona do you live Todd?<br><br>we had some interesting propositions on the ballot in Tucson.<br><br><br>Kmac
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Posted By: <b>Richard S. Simon</b><p>THANK YOU all Ohio voters,,,, bye, bye McCain and the hockey mom.<br>==<br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br>Unknown author <br>--<br>We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br>No retreat baby, no surrender.<br>The Boss
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Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p>Definition of irony: <i>Glad to see that this thread has remained civilized, </i><br><br>You stay classy, Richard.
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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>Can you say "landslide"?
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Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>Jeff, <br><br>Can I just pick a card instead?
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Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>Hi Ken, I live in central Phoenix, about 5-6 miles from downtown. I walked right up to the tables at 9:15 this morning, absolutely no waiting.<br>The one proposition that appears every general election and fails every time is the pay raise for the state legislators. I vote for it every time--public service and duty aside, $24K is way too little to attract anywhere near the best and brightest. Still, it and I get shot down everytime. Oh well, of all the things I was pulling for on this ballot, that's certainly one "loss" I can stand.
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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Anybody got an Obama rookie card?
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Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p><<Can I just get the damn addresses for which of you bums I have to send checks to? >><br><br>Sorry Jeff. Just like Guido the killer pimp, we deal in cash only. No checks. No bonds.
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Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Rob D, <br><br>"You stay classy, Richard."<br><br><br><br>Did he seem just a touch intolerant to you too? Especially for a California type guy. <br><br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Richard S. Simon</b><p>California ??????????<br>==<br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br>Unknown author <br>--<br>We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br>No retreat baby, no surrender.<br>The Boss
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Posted By: <b>Bob Pomilla</b><p>Well, Rich, I do recall you liking the Beach Boys. <img src="/images/happy.gif" alt="happy.gif">
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Posted By: <b>Richard S. Simon</b><p>Bobby, that would not be possible for you to recall because I never liked the Beach Boys. I have a large collection of music including my teen age vinyl records, and there is not one Beach Boys piece among them <img src="/images/happy.gif" alt="happy.gif">.<br>==<br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br>Unknown author <br>--<br>We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br>No retreat baby, no surrender.<br>The Boss
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Posted By: <b>Ken McMillan</b><p>Hi Todd,<br><br>Not surprised that the pay increase failed. Marana where I live had a few measures on the ballot but pretty boring. Looks like people mainly voted for the status quo. Was actually up your direction last Wednesday for the national hardball league world series. Some fantasy camp buddies were playing at Tempe Diablo.<br><br>Ken
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>This thread needs more cowbell<br><br><object width="425" height="350" data="http://www.youtube.com/v/V6Hryc5t2wQ"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/V6Hryc5t2wQ"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><!--[if IE]><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/V6Hryc5t2wQ"type="application/x-shockwave-flash"wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /><![endif]--></object>
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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Richard Dwyer said,<br>"California has the Gay Marriage proposition. If you vote no, Bubba and all his boyfriends in prison can get married. Vote YES to end gay marriage!"<br><br>What's the matter Richard? Is your boyfriend pressuring you and you need an excuse? Just tell him you are not ready for that kind of commitment.<br>JimB
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I hope everyone appreciates the significance of Obama's landslide victory. That our country can overcome racial barriers and elect an African American president is historic. Hopefully, the old poitics are dead and a new era is upon us.<br><br>I wish president-elect Obama the best of luck in what will prove to be very difficult times ahead.
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Posted By: <b>Brock</b><p>Higher taxes for all!
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Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>Barry, It's a great time and we were part of it. I am really joyfully shocked by Florida. Let's hope this event will depolarize the color attitude and make this country strong. <br><br>Richard, What an insensitive and immature comment. Wish I'd seen it sooner. Are you nine years old? <br><br>Perhaps the hateful, ignorant dinosaurs will have no choice but to open their minds in this new climate.
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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br>Yeah, whats done is done. It will be interesting though to see how the tax increases only for the wealthy go over. Considering to start with the wealthy was 250k+ and it was lowered and lowered and lowered until this last time that Biden said the wealthy was 100k+. The health plan should go over well too with universal care. Now every Joe Blow will be able to go to the ER for a jammed finger...and it should only take six months to be able to get in and seen by a doctor for something actually important. <br><br>But I don't blame Barack Obama. He played it perfectly. McCain lost not because of anything other than the economy and Obama's "we don't need four more years of Bush"...I'm still not sure how McCain is Bush. Bush was so horrible that in fact no Republican could have overcome his tenor. <br><br>But what's done is done. I'll fall in line and hope Obama isn't Jimmy Carter who only got in because of how bad tricky Dick screwed things up before him.
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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>I'm just relieved. Not as elated or happy as I thought I'd be - just simply relieved. The fact that the vote went so overwhelmingly Obama is ... overwhelming. <br><br>It was too bad McCain ran such a poor campaign. I've always regarded him very highly, but it seemed like he was so erratic - going for the gimic plays all the time instead of patiently grinding out yards with a consistent message.<br><br>I think Dave hit it right on the head. Bush was so damn bad I don't think there was anyone at all that was going to win this race as a Republican. Maybe that's why McCain seemed so desperate. Too bad his time came in the wake of such a Republican disaster.<br><br>And McCain's concession speech was such a good start for an Obama administration. How classy. Where was this guy on the campaign trail? Wow. But it truly gave a sense of optimism and relief, and I have to believe that Obama was extremely grateful for McCain's grace at that moment.<br><br>Joann<br><br><br><br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>McCain is a decent man and a true American hero. What he endured for five years in Vietnam I can't even imagine.<br><br>But he ran a ghastly campaign, always looked edgy and ill at ease, and had the bad luck of being in the same party as George Bush.<br><br>But most significantly his choice of a running mate was an abomination. I feel bad for Sarah Palin, as she took a lot of abuse the past few months. But McCain showed terrible judgment by choosing her, and he sunk quickly after that.<br><br>Obama's presidency will be far from perfect, and not everyone will like his policies. But I suggest for the next twenty-four hours to please recognize that last night we reached a landmark moment in American history. Then tomorrow we can all go back to partisan fighting.
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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br>Barry-<br><br>I'm not trying to be a smart ***, but why should it be seen as a landmark in American history. I guess thats what bothers me. I'm 32 years old...I'm not from the old generation and haven't been witness to some of the things that even you at your age would have seen in the 50's, 60's. (not that your old <img src="/images/happy.gif" alt="happy.gif"> ) But what bothers me is I really don't know to this day what Obama is all about. I haven't seen any concrete platform he stands on...he has flip-flopped on many issues (as I guess many politicians do). I agree Sarah Palin was not a good choice for VP, she lacks experience, but so does Obama. The thing he was better at....is talking. Talking gets you so far. It would have been refreshing if Obama's short track record in the Senate would have been more on the lines of thinking for himself instead of voting with his party on every issue. We honestly should be past the stage of having to say how wonderful it is an African-American man is President. Being 32 I don't see the big issue there, I really don't. From my perspective he ran a blanket campaign and it was McCain's fault for not pushing issues moreso in the debates than he did. There were many subjects had McCain just pushed issues that Obama would have looked a little foolish trying to get out of. <br><br>This campaign shouldn't have had anything to do with race. It really shouldn't. Every interview I've seen on TV, with blacks and whites are how wonderful it is to have this man in office. I just hope all those people that voted for him saw something more in the glass half full than what I did other than voting for him based on color and what a "landmark in American history" this would be. <br><br>
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Posted By: <b>D. C. Markel</b><p>I never thought this day would happen. I won't have to work on puttin' gas in my car. I won't have to work at payin' my mortgage. You know. If I help him, he's gonna help me.<br><br>(edited for spelling)
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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br><br>Dan-<br><br>I know your kind of being a smart-alec there...but what is truly sad is for those that don't know that was really said by one voter. She honestly thinks Obama will be the end all to all and she won't have to worry about paying for gas or her mortgage. It's really dissapointing just how uneducated MANY of the voters are/were.
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Dave- I understand you do not support Obama's policies, and that's fine. And I wish I could say we should all be color blind and not care what color skin our president has.<br><br>But it's just not the case. This country has a terrible history when it comes to race relations. I am old enough to remember the 1960's and the racial tensions, the rioting, the burning of cities, and it was frightening. So for me this is a very special moment in our history. And I realize not everybody may agree.<br>
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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br><br>Barry-<br><br>Your right everyone can't agree. My point being as long as you back the man for his track record and feel his direction was truly laid out for everyone to see then I have no problem at all if thats the reason folks voted for him. <br><br>I'm not from Nova Scotia...so he is going to be my president and if he does bomb than I'll have a chance in four more years to vote for someone else. That's the wonderful thing about this country.
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Even Obama's supporters know it won't be easy, and I can assure you he will make mistakes. And I plan to be around to see how it all unfolds.
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Posted By: <b>Tony Andrea</b><p>You know, iv'e read through this post and listened to all views carefully. To me though the most accurate statement so far has come from Dave. He hit it right on the head when he stated: <br><br>>>>> " It's really disappointing just how uneducated MANY of the voters are/were."<br><br>For me this stuck out like a soar thumb more so than iv'e ever witnessed in the past. <br>To see so many voters involved in this race was truly great, but they weren't educated <br>on the issues as they should have been. They were simply followers which is not what an <br>election is supposed to represent. <br><br>Tony A.<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>that that $100K we're down to on raising taxes now will be pushed lower. Hopefully the mistakes he makes on the job while trying to learn won't be as big as some Bush made. I have my doubts though. While he's a great speaker, hopefully there's some substance there too. 76 days from now, we'll all find out. There won't be any 'present' votes to do from the oval office. We'd all better hope he's successful. <br><br><br><br>Tony.......I agree........I love the people interviewed about Obama's running mate Palin who said that she'd do a great job. We have a whole lot of new voters this time. Unfortunately, a whole lot of them have no idea what's going on. But I'm not sure that that's not unlike every election.<br><br>
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