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infiniteforcellc 02-15-2019 08:26 AM

Detroit Tigers Baseball Autographs?
 
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Hello All!

We were hoping with some assistance with this baseball, after some research on our end, it is believed to be possibly 2005-2006 Detroit Tigers signed, but was hoping for a review from a person with a little more expertise to see if we should send in for authentication, would be a minimum of $150, so we just wanted opinions prior?

Based on comparison of the career dates of the signatures I was able to make out, Jamie Walker was only on the team to 2006, Kenny Rogers, Placido Polanco and Justin Verlander were not signed until 2005, so I was able to narrow down a '05-'06 time frame!

Ability to make out the Kenny Rogers signature who signed with (Detroit Career: 2005-2008).

Appears to be a Jeremy Bonderman signature (Detroit Career: 2003-2010, 2013, however Kenny Rogers was not apart of the team in '13).

Mike Maroth (Detroit Career: 2002-2007; only M. M. initials from 2005 I could find).

Jamie Walker, appears to be on the ball, as well. (Detroit Career: 2002-2006)

D.T.D Y - signature matches 2005 Dmitri Young card I was able to locate on eBay. (Detroit Career: 2002-2006)

Placido E. Polanco signature matches a Phillies card signature I was able to locate, as well, appears following he no longer uses the "E." (Detroit Career 2005-2009)

CK M - Craig Monroe, signature matches a 2005 signature where he connects the "C" to the "K" (Detroit Career: 2002-2007)

And pretty sure the J V is Justin Verlander - matches his 2005 signature based on what I was able to research, signed with us in 2005 (Detroit Career: 2005-2017), possible rookie signature?

About 21 signatures (if I counted right!) and this was some of the info I was able to gather (just on review myself), hoping someone may be able to confirm if I am accurate or any additional details?

Thanks so much for your time and any assistance offered is so much appreciated!

Renee & Chris
Infinite Force
infiniteforcellc.com

MooseDog 02-15-2019 08:32 AM

What you have is a souvenir pre-printed ball sold at the souvenir stands at the ballpark. Value if any as a souvenir is about $10-20. Maybe others can figure out the year but your estimate of the mid 00s seems in the right era.

Yastrzemski Sports 02-15-2019 08:50 AM

Absolutely - facsimile baseball. Probably worth about $5.

If it was real it would not be worth the fees.

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Originally Posted by MooseDog (Post 1854892)
What you have is a souvenir pre-printed ball sold at the souvenir stands at the ballpark. Value if any as a souvenir is about $10-20. Maybe others can figure out the year but your estimate of the mid 00s seems in the right era.


mrmopar 02-15-2019 08:00 PM

I guess if you really are not looking at or thinking about things like preprinted signatures on a ball all the time, then I guess I could see how it might be possible to miss it. However, it still puzzles me to see so many of these types of balls listed on eBay as if they were real hand signed autographs. I used to take the time to advise the people selling those that caught my eye (usually Dodger balls), and most seemed genuinely uninformed, but I would get a gem every couple of times that would be insulting, try to tell me a story to back up the item was real or just act crazy when I told them their valuable signed ball was a mass produced and fairly inexpensive stadium souvenir.

Yastrzemski Sports 02-16-2019 12:36 AM

There was one of these on here a few days ago - Old Mets Signatures. When the first response informed the op they followed up with the comment - definitely live ink. There are a lot of people who don’t know - or want to believe otherwise.

I have people walk in with stuff like this all the time. They come in with a story about how it was passed down and hand it to me with that look like it’s the winning lottery ticket. I had a guy walk in last year with the Babe Ruth 100th anniversary baseball with sweet spot signature. I had to show him the side of the ball with the date and explain that Babe died 5 decades earlier and then show him the 3 that I had in the $5 bin.
I just feel bad for the op. They obviously put a couple hours of work and research into this ball.


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Originally Posted by mrmopar (Post 1855070)
I guess if you really are not looking at or thinking about things like preprinted signatures on a ball all the time, then I guess I could see how it might be possible to miss it. However, it still puzzles me to see so many of these types of balls listed on eBay as if they were real hand signed autographs. I used to take the time to advise the people selling those that caught my eye (usually Dodger balls), and most seemed genuinely uninformed, but I would get a gem every couple of times that would be insulting, try to tell me a story to back up the item was real or just act crazy when I told them their valuable signed ball was a mass produced and fairly inexpensive stadium souvenir.


thetruthisoutthere 02-16-2019 09:00 AM

I posted a thread on this subject awhile back.

I see it all of the time on EBay where sellers are convinced (delusional) that the signatures are live ink.

https://live.autographmagazine.com/f...aseball-with-f


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