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ValKehl 06-07-2018 10:09 PM

Young, Mathewson, Johnson, & Alexander - Pop 20 or below
 
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I assume everyone is enjoying seeing the fabulous cards of Ruth, Cobb, Wagner & Jackson in this current thread: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=255760

But, as so often is the case, the focus is on great hitters, as opposed to great pitchers. So, I have started this thread to show some love to four of the greatest pitchers of the same era.

Show your treasured cards of Cy, Matty, WaJo, and Pete that have a population of 20 or less in the combined PSA & SGC pop reports. And, let's make this competitive - let's strive to show more scarce/rare cards than are shown in the hitters thread! And, please show the backs of your cards, unless the backs are blank.

I'll start with this 1911 Baseball Bats of WaJo (my avatar) - my card is raw, and there are 4 in the combined pop reports:

paul 06-07-2018 10:21 PM

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I don't know the population reports, but there can't be many of these.

brass_rat 06-07-2018 11:33 PM

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Good one, Val!

sb1 06-08-2018 05:24 AM

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Couple of tougher ones.

jerrys 06-08-2018 06:37 AM

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1/1

slidekellyslide 06-08-2018 06:56 AM

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Do pinbacks count?

KMayUSA6060 06-08-2018 07:18 AM

Damnit. I had just finished picking my jaw off the floor from the other thread...

iowadoc77 06-08-2018 07:30 AM

Steve- amazing Drum!
Scott- that’s got to be one of the nicest eye appeal E107s for any player, let alone Young!
Incredible cards!

frankbmd 06-08-2018 07:40 AM

Did Cy win the election for treasurer in 1916?

Rhotchkiss 06-08-2018 11:43 AM

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Val, you can do better than that!! You must have dozens of rare wajo items to post; we’d love to see them. Great thread btw

Here is a low pop Matty

tedzan 06-08-2018 02:19 PM

Hi Val .....my favorite Matty....traded a bunch of T206's for it quite a few years ago.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...0xMattySGC.jpg



TED Z

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Exhibitman 06-08-2018 03:29 PM

D/K what the pop is and I don't really care, as I am still very happy to have picked up this card recently:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...20WaJo%201.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...20WaJo%202.jpg

I know there ain't 20 of these...

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...%201%20b_1.jpg

iowadoc77 06-08-2018 03:53 PM

Wow Ted! That is a beautiful W600.
What don’t you have?

sb1 06-08-2018 04:08 PM

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Guess I should post this one to go with Ted's

ullmandds 06-08-2018 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sb1 (Post 1784881)
guess i should post this one to go with ted's

bam!

tedzan 06-08-2018 07:15 PM

There are not too many of these Matty's in circulation.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...onmatty75x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...nmatty75xb.jpg



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puckpaul 06-08-2018 07:29 PM

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Meet up of the Matty W600 street clothes....my version. also a T5 Pinkerton Cardboard mount WaJo and a Matty T3 no ad back (out of order..sorry)

Paul

jerrys 06-08-2018 07:31 PM

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Vintageclout 06-08-2018 09:25 PM

Matty W600
 
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Originally Posted by sb1 (Post 1784881)
Guess I should post this one to go with Ted's

Mathewson’s TRUE inaugural card....first released by the Sporting News January 1903. Breisch Williams Matty was released in the late spring 1903. A beauty Scott, and arguably the most significant Matty card!

BeanTown 06-08-2018 09:27 PM

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Lets get Mr. Young involved here.

Baseball Rarities 06-08-2018 09:32 PM

Now, this is my kind of thread.

Great cards guys! Love the W600s and the PC760 Rose Co. postcard.

Jobu 06-08-2018 10:06 PM

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Tough to know how many Piedmont 42s are out there, but seems likely to fit the bill.

ValKehl 06-08-2018 10:15 PM

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Did someone mention Piedmont 42?

ValKehl 06-08-2018 10:20 PM

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I'll do two WaJos in a row to make Ryan H. happy.

BeanTown 06-08-2018 11:30 PM

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Lets go three in a row

pherbener 06-09-2018 06:05 AM

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Here's a couple of my Matty's

iowadoc77 06-09-2018 08:00 AM

Love the W600s!!!
That Young is spectacular Jay!

Baseball Rarities 06-09-2018 08:51 AM

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1891 Ryder's Portraits Cabinet of Cy Young from his first full year in the Major Leagues.

puckpaul 06-09-2018 09:02 AM

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found a few others. been a long time since the Mathewson bottle from the Halper auction has seen the light of day, so here it is (one of my favorite pieces!). part of a set of 6 NY Giants bottles. i believe they are a unique set?

Also an M101-1 Sporting News Cy Young, a Close Candy Young, and an E92 Dockman Young.

And also ex-Halper, the large T200 Washington Senators with Walter.

Paul

BeanTown 06-09-2018 09:04 AM

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Young same time frame of 1891

puckpaul 06-09-2018 09:19 AM

that Ryder portrait is gorgeous, Kevin!

tedzan 06-09-2018 01:06 PM

Here's a Cy Young with less than 20 in the pop report column.

.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...e460cyoung.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...e460cyoung.jpg


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sb1 06-09-2018 01:41 PM

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The toughest Young of the W600's, the Cleveland version, but the earlier Boston is probably more popular.

yanksfan09 06-09-2018 06:03 PM

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I know for sure I have 3 that fit the bill...

Not sure on the pops of these Youngs?...

tedzan 06-09-2018 06:17 PM

This Matty with a SOVEREIGN 460 back is very tough to find (as are the other five T206 super-prints).

.........http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cematty25x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ematty25xy.jpg



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jerrys 06-09-2018 06:56 PM

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Hi Scott - For the 1909 Cleveland cards Sporting Life utilized the same picture of Cy Young wearing a Boston lace-top uniform as was used for his previous cards. These cards were issued near the very end of the W600 run. Hence scarcer.


ValKehl 06-09-2018 07:23 PM

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Erick, I love your D381s, especially the WaJo. And, thanks for showing a Grover C. Alexander card - I was beginning to feel sorry for old "Pete" because none of his cards had yet been shown in this thread, and I don't have any in my collection to show.

My 1920 D327-1 Holsum Bread - WaJo card is raw. The pop reports show 1 (SGC) plus two 1921 D327-2 cards (1 each for PSA & SGC). I'd love to add a D327-2 to my WaJo collection.

yanksfan09 06-09-2018 07:27 PM

Thanks Val, Nice Holsum!

Rhotchkiss 06-09-2018 07:44 PM

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I get it now Val, you are going to leak them out. Smart like a fox.

Awesome cards everyone. Great thread! This one is not rare per second, but rare for the grade? (Heck I just wanted to participate!)

ValKehl 06-09-2018 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 1785233)
I get it now Val, you are going to leak them out. Smart like a fox.

Awesome cards everyone. Great thread! This one is not rare per second, but rare for the grade? (Heck I just wanted to participate!)

Ryan, thanks (I think) for the compliment. Since I am old and a Senators collector, I'll pretend I'm in good company with "The Old Fox" (a/k/a Clark Griffith, Senators owner and GM).

Ryan, you found a loophole with your "rare for the grade" Cy Young. Clever like a fox! :D

Getting back to this thread, my 1917 D350-2 Standard Biscuit - WaJo card is raw. Per the combined pop reports, this is the only example in existence on this planet (I couldn't resist using this Goodwin Auctions superlative)! :p

Kawika 06-09-2018 09:14 PM

Don't know the pop report on these cards but am guessing there are less than 20 copies of each.

https://photos.imageevent.com/kawika...my%20copy_.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/kawika...00%20Matty.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/kawika...10%20Matty.jpg

The 1914 Cracker Jack probably exceeds the twenty-or-less criteria but everyone seems to like this one so I'll post it anyway.

https://photos.imageevent.com/kawika...J%20Matty1.jpg

Baseball Rarities 06-09-2018 09:22 PM

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Erick - this would make a good compliment to your individual cards.

brass_rat 06-09-2018 10:37 PM

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Beautiful cards, everyone!

Less than 20 T213-3...and I'm not aware of any other Factory 8 Overprint...

BeanTown 06-09-2018 11:35 PM

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I did a quick google search to see how many different W600s Cy Youngs I could find. Seems they all are scarce. I found two Images of the Cleveland Young unless they are the same below? Image on the left came off VCP and the one on the right was what Scott posted. When dealing with W600s, the mounts have different scarcity as well as, the images and player identification.

sb1 06-10-2018 05:50 AM

Interesting, before this comparison I thought these were the only two W600 Cy Young Clevelands I could find, now when reexamining the side by sides they do appear to be the SAME cabinet, the first must have had some minor tweaking of the scan?? As they both have the stain in the exact spot.

yanksfan09 06-10-2018 08:32 AM

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Erick - this would make a good compliment to your individual cards. I will try and post a properly sized photo when I get back to my computer.

I totally agree Kevin! Here's mine... ;) Is the other one yours? Very nice!

Baseball Rarities 06-10-2018 08:39 AM

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I totally agree Kevin! Here's mine... ;) Is the other one yours? Very nice!

LOL. Great piece. Definitely belongs in your collection.

Yes, the other one is mine. Only three known AFAIK.

calvindog 06-10-2018 11:16 AM

Some rare Mathewsons
 
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4149/...d42e4316_b.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8161/...cabaaa79_b.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7384/...63206719_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4075/...3df8b197_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/808/4...9ecec04b_c.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1754/...a80ddb3a_c.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7248/...dae2d3a746.jpg

Kawika 06-10-2018 11:58 AM

Terrific array of Matty items, Jeff. Particularly like the Factoryville home postcard. Just gets you thinking about life in those halcyon deadball days.

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_...ville%20PA.JPG

ValKehl 06-10-2018 03:21 PM

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Some amazing cards in this thread thus far, especially Mattys and Youngs. Still hoping to see more Alexanders.

The E122 Am. Caramel WaJo is much tougher (combined pop reports - 8) than either series (80 or 120) of the E121 Am Caramel WaJo.


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