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Scott Garner 06-17-2012 05:29 AM

"Genuine" autographed Sandy Koufax ball??
 
Check out this brutal Sandy Koufax signed ball using this link.:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300727286563...84.m1423.l2649


I e-mailed the seller as soon as he listed it to let him know it was fake. Amazingly this ball actually has bidders...

His response was a classic:

Thank you for your concern. I work at cambelback ranch where the dodgers do spring training and I have received personally several autographs in person from sandy and many other players. I did not buy this from anyone and can show several pictures from many of the people I have had sign my balls in person from Joe Torres to Matt kemp to Matt cain to Barry Zito to robin Ventura. Thank you for your concern. If you would like to see pictures of my collection I would love to share. Just let me know. It has taken me many years to collect my autographs.


- thetrianalife

I might actually believe the guy except the ball is still a brutal fake.... :rolleyes:

Scott Garner 06-17-2012 05:33 AM

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RichardSimon 06-17-2012 06:21 AM

Oh man that one sux.

Mr. Zipper 06-17-2012 08:47 AM

This is a classic example of "it's messy because it was signed in person" yet it was obviously signed very slowly.

You can't have it both ways. :D

Wymers Auction 06-17-2012 09:28 AM

I am sure that he will not produce a picture of Sandy signing that ball.

jgmp123 06-17-2012 11:27 AM

Pretty sure that one will be pulled soon....that's not even a good forgery...

packs 06-17-2012 12:17 PM

Koufax doesn't visit Dodgertown in Arizona. Guy is obviously lying. Koufax lives in Florida and is a regular visitor of Mets camp. Don't see him getting on a plane to go to Arizona. I never even saw him at Dodgertown in Vero and that was 10 minutes from his house.

mr2686 06-17-2012 12:24 PM

Well, at least you can see it from across the room. ;)

JimStinson 06-17-2012 01:10 PM

JimStinson
 
Wow ! Really bad and you say it has bidders ? The argument for in-person variations is that they are "rushed" , incomplete ..signed quickly. That one is DRAWN. Must have taken an hour to do it. With regards to the snapshot of Koufax signing it. If he can produce a snapshot of Sandy hanging upside down and spinning in a circle at the same time while holding the ball and signing it I would say it has a chance

JimStinson 06-17-2012 01:20 PM

JimStinson
 
I checked the listing and am also surprised it has not been yanked already. I notice in the description seller uses the word "MOST" of his autographs were gotten in person and he has a robust e-bay feedback number of 2 !

MacDice 06-17-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1004498)
Koufax doesn't visit Dodgertown in Arizona. Guy is obviously lying. Koufax lives in Florida and is a regular visitor of Mets camp. Don't see him getting on a plane to go to Arizona. I never even saw him at Dodgertown in Vero and that was 10 minutes from his house.

Sandy did attend spring training this year. A kid I coached in on the Dodgers 40 man and met him. That being said I way that auto is real

JimStinson 06-17-2012 01:39 PM

JimStinson
 
Do they have any amusement parks there ? Maybe he signed it while he was riding a rollar coaster

Scott Garner 06-17-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JimStinson (Post 1004529)
Do they have any amusement parks there ? Maybe he signed it while he was riding a rollar coaster

Yeah, it was the ride called "The Death Drop" which reaches a top speed of 90 MPH. LOL

Here is Sandy's real signature from two months ago. It's a virtual twin of the "genuine" Sandy in this auction. :p

bender07 06-17-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 1004535)
Yeah, it was the ride called "The Death Drop" which reaches a top speed of 90 MPH. LOL

Here is Sandy's real signature from two months ago. It's a virtual twin of the "genuine" Sandy in this auction. :p

I could look at that signed ticket all day. Sah-weet!

mr2686 06-17-2012 06:22 PM

Here's the last 3 outs, and if you grew up a Dodger fan you can't help but remember Vin Scully's call of the final pitch since they used it as part of every game's intro. Two and two to Harvey Kuenn, one strike away, Sandy in to his windup, here's the pitch, swung on and missed...a perfect game!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJdli-ONL-8

mr2686 06-17-2012 06:34 PM

I forgot to add that poor Harvy Kuenn made the last out in two of Koufax's no hitters...in 1963 when he played for the Giants, and then again in 65 for Sandy's perfecto against the Cubs. I guess it's nothing to be ashamed of

GrayGhost 06-17-2012 06:49 PM

The K in Koufax looks like the K in Ken Boyers signature:)

WHAT A MESS that ball is....

Wymers Auction 06-17-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JimStinson (Post 1004525)
I checked the listing and am also surprised it has not been yanked already. I notice in the description seller uses the word "MOST" of his autographs were gotten in person and he has a robust e-bay feedback number of 2 !

Hopefully he will be getting his first negative feedback when that monster arrives.

Brendan 06-17-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wymers Auction (Post 1004610)
Hopefully he will be getting his first negative feedback when that monster arrives.

Unfortunately not, because I just bid $1,000 on it with a trash account.

Wymers Auction 06-17-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brendan (Post 1004657)
Unfortunately not, because I just bid $1,000 on it with a trash account.

Funny!!!! Now watch some idiot outbid you!!!

Brendan 06-17-2012 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wymers Auction (Post 1004666)
Funny!!!! Now watch some idiot outbid you!!!

Oddly, the bid got deleted.:confused: Must be the feedback count or something.

thecatspajamas 06-17-2012 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brendan (Post 1004667)
Oddly, the bid got deleted.:confused: Must be the feedback count or something.

Yup. Check the bid history:

"Explanation: Zero Feedback, new customer less than 30 days"

Wymers Auction 06-18-2012 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by thecatspajamas (Post 1004669)
Yup. Check the bid history:

"Explanation: Zero Feedback, new customer less than 30 days"

A person with a feedback of 2 deletes a bid due to lack of feedback. That is hilarious!!!!

RichardSimon 06-19-2012 07:57 AM

No need to worry any longer. That piece of art is gone.

Scott Garner 06-19-2012 09:27 AM

Nice job! The good guys win this minor battle. ;)

RichardSimon 06-20-2012 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Wymers Auction (Post 1004673)
A person with a feedback of 2 deletes a bid due to lack of feedback. That is hilarious!!!!

And that surprises you why?? :D:D.

Wymers Auction 06-20-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RichardSimon (Post 1005527)
And that surprises you why?? :D:D.

Because in my own ebay experience I had great experiences with new buyers. I think everyone should remember that they were a newbie at one time. I am sure you would agree.

jimjim 06-22-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1004498)
Koufax doesn't visit Dodgertown in Arizona. Guy is obviously lying. Koufax lives in Florida and is a regular visitor of Mets camp. Don't see him getting on a plane to go to Arizona. I never even saw him at Dodgertown in Vero and that was 10 minutes from his house.


I agree with the consensus that the auto is really bad. But Koufax does visit Dodger Spring Training in AZ. I have been the past three years, and he has shown up each year for a few days. I actually got some autos from him in-person the first year they moved out to Glendale.


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