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On the other side of post-war...new project!
well many of you saw and posted many kind words on my 1955 Topps set that I recently completed, and as I've mentioned before I'm hooked hardcore now on vintage set building and I'm going at it head first! As some of you may know, I'm now currently working on a graded 1954 Topps baseball set, and my first pre-war project, a graded 1934 Goudey set. But two projects isn't good enough, LOL!! I decided I wanted to do another raw set, and thought I'd hop over to the other side of the big 50's line and try my hand at Bowman. So I've decided to start work on the 1952 Bowman set!
I've gotten a nice start thanks to a couple of great members right here on Net54. Thanks to both of you for great transactions! Since I can only put 10 pictures in a given post, I'll break up this first lot over a few posts over the next week or so and will add new pickups as they come in. As with my '54 and '34 sets, this one will go at a much more leisurely pace than my '55 set, lol. If anyone has any '52 Bowmans they'll part with please give me a shout! I'm looking to trade as much as possible right now as most of the cash that i get in is going to either paying bills or buying silver coins. If you've got anything you're looking for let me know and I'll see what I've got! So here's my first batch! #003 - Fred Hutchinson http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0003.jpg #007 - Mike Garcia http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0004.jpg #009 - Vern Stephens http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0005.jpg #010 - Bob Hooper http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0006.jpg #012 - Max Surkont http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0010.jpg #020 - Willie Jones http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0009.jpg #038 - Whitey Lockman http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0007.jpg #048 - Vern Bickford http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0008.jpg #049 - Jim Hearn http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0014.jpg #055 - Ken Raffensberger http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0013.jpg |
Beautiful set! I have a few of the '52 Bowman but am not willing to part with them yet. I just picked up George Kell and Duke Snider a few weeks back (I focus mainly on HOFers).
Like always keep posting and I'll keep watching but I'm starting to hate you a bit (just kidding). Good luck, Drew |
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Separated at birth...
I do a 54 topps, you do a 54 topps...I do diamond stars, you do goudeys...I do a 51 bowman, you start rockin' the 52's...you are a collector after my own heart. Best wishes on yet another project...and winning the lottery to fund all this stuff! :)
Ps...you aren't going to start a 59 topps set next, are ya??? |
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here's the next installment of my starter lot!
#060 - Sid Gordon http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0011.jpg #061 - Tommy Byrne http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0012.jpg #065 - Hank Bauer http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0015.jpg #066 - Sal Maglie http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0016.jpg #089 - Billy Hitchcock http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0018.jpg #092 - Eddie Waitkus http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0017.jpg #095 - Luke Easter http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0019.jpg #098 - Jimmie Dykes http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0020.jpg #100 - Sibby Sisti http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0021.jpg #104 - Hal Jeffcoat http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0022.jpg |
Eddie Waitkus, the player "The Natural" was based on. Errrr, at least the part about being shot by a unstable female.
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well here's a few more for today! #112 - Smoky Burgess http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0024.jpg #113 - Al Zarilla http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0025.jpg #117 - Bill Wight http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0026.jpg #120 - Chet Nichols http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0023.jpg #121 - Al Corwin http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0028.jpg #123 - Sid Hudson http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0030.jpg #124 - Birdie Tebbetts http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0029.jpg #126 - Phil Cavarretta http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0027.jpg #129 - Gus Niarhos http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0033.jpg |
beginning of my '52 Bowman set, part 4...
#130 - Allie Clark http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0032.jpg #133 - Dick Kryhoski http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0031.jpg #135 - Mickey Harris http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0034.jpg #137 - Stan Rojek http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0037.jpg #140 - Ray Scarborough http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0036.jpg #143 - http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0038.jpg #144 - Sandy Consuegra http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0035.jpg #148 - Ken Heintzelman http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0040.jpg #153 - Fred Hatfield http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0042.jpg #155 - Billy Meyer http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0041.jpg |
last of the starter lot...
#158 - Bucky Harris http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0039.jpg #170 - Joe Astroth http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0046.jpg #171 - Mel Queen http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0043.jpg #174 - Mickey Grasso http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0045.jpg #175 - Randy Jackson http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0044.jpg #178 - Dave Williams http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0049.jpg #183 - Pat Mullin http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0047.jpg #186 - Frank Smith http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0050.jpg #194 - Bob Porterfield http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0048.jpg another big thanks to the 2 Net54 members who hooked me up with these and got me a solid start on my latest project! New pickups to follow! |
so I decided to go do a little shop-hoppin trip on Monday and visit some of the card shops here in town to see if they had any stuff I needed for a couple of the sets I'm working on. And indeed they did, I picked up about 15 new cards for the '52 Bowman set! Some I bought, some I did some trading on, all in all I got some pretty good deals! Also got a few on ebay over the weekend :D
Here are my latest pickups! #028 - Roy Hartsfield http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0015-1.jpg #031 - Eddie Yost http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0016-1.jpg #056 - Clyde King http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0018-1.jpg #064 - Roy Smalley http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0014-1.jpg #076 - Del Ennis http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0010-1.jpg #080 - Gil Hodges http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0017-1.jpg #088 - Bruce Edwards http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0013-1.jpg #105 - Bobby Brown http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0011-1.jpg #214 - Ray Boone http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0012-1.jpg |
#074 - Wes Westrum
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0009-1.jpg #127 - Dick Sisler http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0007-1.jpg #149 - Howie Judson http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0008-1.jpg #150 - Herman Wehmeier http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0006-1.jpg #152 - Billy Cox http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0005-1.jpg #219 - Neil Berry http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0002.jpg #226 - Alex Kellner http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0003-1.jpg #249 - Hank Thompson http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_0001.jpg and the bookend, #252 - Frank Crosetti http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0004-1.jpg |
got in my stuff that I picked up on ebay over the weekend...thanks for lookin! :)
#005 - Minnie Minoso http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0002-1.jpg #043 - Bob Feller http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0004-3.jpg #116 - Duke Snider http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0003-2.jpg #164 - Connie Ryan http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0001-1.jpg up to 70 now! :D |
Slow down! You're msking me dizzy! My computer was shot for almost a week and when I come back on line you have 70! (so far, maybe you've completed the 52 set and haven't posted it yet. Just kidding)
Keep them comming. Guys like you give me something to aspire to when my kids move out and start supporting me financially. Then watch out! Of course you will have a twenty year head start and already have completed all pre 1970 sets by then. Oh well. Keep it up and those pics comming and I'll just dream and chear you on! Good luck, Drew |
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I do have to admit that the thought of me having all the major pre 70 sets done in 20 years is appealing, lol. not terribly LIKELY...but appealing nonetheless :D thanks as always for the comment! |
Man, I'd love to have the original piece of artwork from a '52 Bowman. The Vern Stephens, Minnie Minoso, and Duke Snider all looks so good.
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The more I look at these cards the more I am loving this set.
I put together a 1955 Topps as my first venture into vintage cards and loved and hated it at the same time. (We have disscussed when you started yours). I have kind of always wanted to do it again someday with another set. While I have leaned toward the 1957 Topps set because I love old photogrphy the 1952 Bowman set is just plain old nice to look at. While I would love the 1953 Bowman or 1952 Topps as far as an older 50's example so far I havn't struck oil while in my garden so the cost isn't making them possible,b ut I am totally liking this 52 set. How are you finding it in comparison to your other projects in regards to pricing lots of commons or even availability? Lets face it the big boys will always sting a bit in any older set but the search for commons is where I tend to balk at putting together another vintage set. Let me know your thoughts. In the mean time I will visually live though your pics so keep them comming. Drew |
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I agree that you'd need to strike oil in your back yard and discover a gold deposit underneath the oil patch to put together a respectable '52 set but the '53 Bowman would probably be doable without breaking the bank if you take your time on it (ur givin me ideas, damn you! ;) ) and its another set that just looks really nice. As far as how I'm finding it compared to other stuff. I'm finding that the cards are out there, but in terms of finding decent sized good quality/condition lots...they're not nearly as plentiful on this set as they were with the '55 Topps set. So its a lot more a thing of getting a few cards here, a card or two there. Honestly though, that suits me fine because I'm looking at taking it slower on this set. I haven't really had any trouble (yet) finding cards...they're definitely out there and can be had in good shape...just not in big groups. And the prices are very reasonable so that helps. I'll get there though ;) I've got a few ideas for my next set that I wanna do but I still gotta narrow it down to one...maybe I'll take a poll when I get ready :D |
Thanks for the response.
What I have found in this as well as others from the era is that you can find some great condition cards with some small back damage. Remember, post war collecting was still somewhat new and I would guess most kids didn't know what to do with them. I have found a number of 6 or 7 fronts with small glue spots on the back for almost nothing. That doesn't bother me too much. I once paid less thatn a dollar for a 52 Bobby Thompson in this condition. Also $3 for a George Kell the same way. While I want to see the backs they were basic text at this point and nither Topps nor Bowman had done much in design on backs yet so in this regard I think it could keep the pricing down. Just my own personal opinion but I know others prefer higher grade backs and that's cool too. Keep it up and keep them comming. Drew |
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The '52 Bowman set I think is the most interesting of all Bowman sets & is my favorite because of all the unique poses. I have had a complete set since I bought the cards in penny packs back in the day.
Here are just a few that I had SGC grade a yr or so ago that I thought you might enjoy seeing. |
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Travis---
Thanks for the nice comments--Sorry about your keyboard!:) Just about every card I own between 1948 up to around 1956 were cards I bought originally at the corner ice cream store or in a Mom & Pop drug store.
I had them carefully stored away in 1958 when I went off to school & reclaimed them in the '80's. My Mom was under orders NOT to throw away my "stuff"!:) Good luck w/ your quest of a '52 set---it's a BEAUTY! |
got a couple new ones in through a trade with a fellow board member. Couple cards closer!
#138 - Ted Wilks http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0003-3.jpg #240 - Billy Loes http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0002-2.jpg |
As always, very nice. I like how perfect the Pittsbugh is shown on Wilks' jersey. Keep posting these and I know I'm going to follow suit one day and try to tackle this set.
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I hope you do Drew, its an awesome set and I'm really enjoying putting it together!
Here's my latest pickup. Took a little longer to get here than I would have liked, but hey as long as it makes it I guess I can't complain too much. I now have both of the "bookend" cards! :D #001 - Yogi Berra http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0001-2.jpg |
That Berra is in great shape for being #1 in the set. Where you able to get a good price or have to pay a bit of a premium for the first set card?
Also how are you findidng the prices overall on this set when it comes to some of the bigger stars? Drew |
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On the flip side though, and I'll use the extreme example, I've found that the Mantle's I'm finding online are pretty ridiculous as far as price goes ($935 for a PSA 3?! $1100 for a 5...). I dunno, maybe I'm wrong but that seems a little nuts. Outside of that card though I have found the prices to be pretty reasonable for the most part. Enough so atleast that it's not scaring me away from continuing to work on the set :) |
Thanks for the response, but I'm not sure if this is helping or hurting my descision on trying for this set someday.
Mantle is always the wild factor. Sometimes a card in the worst shape (ie paper loss, holes, writing, etc) always seem to shot up in price just because it is him. It almost seems like there are fewer of them out there so people will pay above book $ just to own it. It's frustrating in putting together any 50's set with him because you know going into it that there just won't be a hidden deal somewhere to wait for. Anyway keep the posts and I'll keep debating. Drew |
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so I put a poll up the other day about which card I should buy as my next "big" purchase. the results were pretty one sided and this next one is the result! Glad to knock out one of the big dogs of the set...
#218 - Willie Mays http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0001-3.jpg |
Nice Mays! I really think I've descided on this set. It will be a while before I try to start to tackle it, but these cards have been around 60 years so I think they can wait another one or two.
I've done some research and it seems the Mantle and Mays are really the only two cards in the set that would take some planning and hunting for. I'm thinking back to the '55 Topps set I built a few years ago and could basically compare it to going after the Clemente and Koufax rookies in it. As always keep posting and I'll keep watching. Drew |
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