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Peter_Spaeth 02-11-2019 05:01 PM

OT but front page worthy Jordan card ebay
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/401705176726

Cmount76 02-11-2019 05:12 PM

:eek:

Nothing else!

Bored5000 02-11-2019 05:50 PM

There has been a $750,000 bid retraction, a $200,000 bid retraction and a $176,000 bid retraction -- all from different bidders. In addition, a $500,000 bid from a seller with "0" feedback was canceled. :eek:

Seems like a tough break for the buyer trying to make his first buy on eBay with a $500,000 bid.

Peter_Spaeth 02-11-2019 05:57 PM

The card is altered. LOL. There are 10 made not 1. It's not even close to a rookie. I DON'T GET IT.

pherbener 02-11-2019 06:01 PM

I was just going to post about this... Crazy!! I fail to see the logic in this. I know there's only 10 but what would a PSA 9 or 10 go for?? I'll stick to vintage.

hcv123 02-11-2019 06:13 PM

This!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1853827)
The card is altered. LOL. There are 10 made not 1. It's not even close to a rookie. I DON'T GET IT.

A fool and his money..........

RedsFan1941 02-11-2019 06:16 PM

hi res scans likely have something to do with the spirited bidding

Peter_Spaeth 02-11-2019 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsFan1941 (Post 1853838)
hi res scans likely have something to do with the spirited bidding

:D

MichelaiTorres83 02-11-2019 06:22 PM

That is just pure insanity.

mechanicalman 02-11-2019 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941 (Post 1853838)
hi res scans likely have something to do with the spirited bidding

Such a good quote.

Snapolit1 02-11-2019 06:25 PM

Why is this selling for $599,000 when cards from the same series with the same hype are selling for $3500.

Not to impose any logical reasoning into the analysis.

Peter_Spaeth 02-11-2019 06:25 PM

I put in a snipe of 750K but I'm drawing the line not one penny more.

MichelaiTorres83 02-11-2019 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bored5000 (Post 1853824)
There has been a $750,000 bid retraction, a $200,000 bid retraction and a $176,000 bid retraction -- all from different bidders. In addition, a $500,000 bid from a seller with "0" feedback was canceled. :eek:

Seems like a tough break for the buyer trying to make his first buy on eBay with a $500,000 bid.

So those bidders will never bid on PWCC auctions ever again right?

Peter_Spaeth 02-11-2019 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1853845)
Why is this selling for $599,000 when cards from the same series with the same hype are selling for $3500.

Not to impose any logical reasoning into the analysis.

Jordan rules.

MichelaiTorres83 02-11-2019 08:32 PM

How many people can drop a cool half mil on a card? One card.

Out of all the people on this message board how many do you think there are? Less than 10?

How is this even close to real? To think it would even be worth 100k is insanity. 1996? I mean. Ok. I bought cards in packs. The no name frank thomas isn’t even close to that price or any other big card at the time.

Donruss Elite cards, 89 upper deck promo cards. Can anyone name any other legendary cards with low pop numbers.. This is just ridiculous.

pherbener 02-11-2019 08:52 PM

...and now it's ended. Error in the listing.:rolleyes:

swarmee 02-12-2019 04:52 AM

PWCC pulled it to relist Wednesday on a 7-day auction with pre-approved bidders. They couldn't see this result coming?

Peter_Spaeth 02-14-2019 02:16 PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Metal-...Y0u7:rk:1:pf:0

And even with the pre approved bidder list we already have a retraction.

pokerplyr80 02-14-2019 02:49 PM

I don't collect modern basketball cards, but have heard of these. Not sure why they're so popular but they all go for crazy money relative to other issues from the same time period.

oldjudge 02-14-2019 03:23 PM

I would rather have the PSA 10 Diana Taurasi rookie than this card. I think the price is beyond crazy. Hold the card for ten years and you will probably lose 95+% of your investment.

Peter_Spaeth 02-14-2019 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1854700)
I would rather have the PSA 10 Diana Taurasi rookie than this card. I think the price is beyond crazy. Hold the card for ten years and you will probably lose 95+% of your investment.

It's dirt cheap compared to where the first auction was after a day.

pokerplyr80 02-14-2019 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1854700)
I would rather have the PSA 10 Diana Taurasi rookie than this card. I think the price is beyond crazy. Hold the card for ten years and you will probably lose 95+% of your investment.

The set has been very popular for a while now. A modern holy grail. I would place a bet on the under at even a 25% decline in 10 years. 95% wont happen.

Paul S 02-14-2019 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1854687)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Metal-...Y0u7:rk:1:pf:0

And even with the pre approved bidder list we already have a retraction.

That was me. Once you guys outed it I had no chance:p

darwinbulldog 02-14-2019 04:48 PM

Meh. Wilt was better.

oldjudge 02-14-2019 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1854711)
The set has been very popular for a while now. A modern holy grail. I would place a bet on the under at even a 25% decline in 10 years. 95% wont happen.

A Skybox chase card near the end of Jordan’s career; sounds like beanie babies to me. Not to mentioned that it couldn’t get a number grade. Needless to say, I won’t be bidding.

Yastrzemski Sports 02-14-2019 05:21 PM

The PMG are the cards that everyone wants and the green ones are exponentially more. There are 10 of these - less than most other rare cards out there. So the sky’s the limit in terms of what the next one sells for. But if history is any judge - it will be more than this one. And the one after that will be more.

Aquarian Sports Cards 02-14-2019 05:46 PM

But I can't get past the fact that it's altered. So what does a 8, 9 or 10 go for? Exponentially more???

steve B 02-14-2019 05:52 PM

"Despite the PSA Auth assessment this example is easily among the finest PMG Green MJ's in the world "

Do the writers ever read their own stuff and wonder what the ___ they were thinking? They should.

HOF Auto Rookies 02-14-2019 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve B (Post 1854754)
"Despite the PSA Auth assessment this example is easily among the finest PMG Green MJ's in the world "



Do the writers ever read their own stuff and wonder what the ___ they were thinking? They should.


LOL my sentiments as well

Hxcmilkshake 02-14-2019 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1854752)
But I can't get past the fact that it's altered. So what does a 8, 9 or 10 go for? Exponentially more???

Doesn't even matter. They never come up for sale.

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pokerplyr80 02-14-2019 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1854752)
But I can't get past the fact that it's altered. So what does a 8, 9 or 10 go for? Exponentially more???

Only 10 were made. I'd be surprised if the grade matters as much as it does on most cards.

The Nasty Nati 02-14-2019 06:15 PM

Honestly I’m not surprised if this card eventually ends up selling for $750k. This is the holy grail for basketball collectors. 90s insert basketball cards go for big money and the Precious Metal Gems Green is the best of the best. Not saying I would ever spend that kind of money but you can always pick up a Jordan rookie, but you can’t pick one of those any day. I believe only 3 have surfaced.

dictoresno 02-14-2019 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati (Post 1854764)
Honestly I’m not surprised if this card eventually ends up selling for $750k. This is the holy grail for basketball collectors. 90s insert basketball cards go for big money and the Precious Metal Gems Green is the best of the best. Not saying I would ever spend that kind of money but you can always pick up a Jordan rookie, but you can’t pick one of those any day. I believe only 3 have surfaced.

I don't think people understand or know about these cards or their scarcity. and at this point, this card is kind of like a Mantle rookie card. no matter what the grade, even altered, will go for a higher than normal amount vs another regular card in the same grade. especially one like this, that has higher PSA grade eye appeal.

The Nasty Nati 02-14-2019 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dictoresno (Post 1854768)
I don't think people understand or know about these cards or their scarcity. and at this point, this card is kind of like a Mantle rookie card. no matter what the grade, even altered, will go for a higher than normal amount vs another regular card in the same grade. especially one like this, that has higher PSA grade eye appeal.

Agreed, most net54 members don’t know about the significance of this card but on the modern card forums like Blowout or Freedomcardboard this card is the equivalet of a T206 Ty Cobb with Ty Cobb back or a new Doyle error surfacing. This card is the most significant 90s cards across all sports. 90s inserts, especially basketball, and somewhat baseball, can go for big money. 90s might have been a junk wax era but in the mid to late 90s, rare inserts are highly collectable for people now in their 20’s-40’s.

Peter_Spaeth 02-14-2019 06:57 PM

So they took an abundant base card and made a few of them green? Sorry not impressed.

ruth_rookie 02-14-2019 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1854777)
So they took an abundant base card and made a few of them green? Sorry not impressed.

Lmao. I was thinking the exact same thing. So what. It’s green and there’s only a handful that exist. There are only a handful (well, slightly more than a handful) of M101 Ruth rookies too. I’d buy the Ruth if I spent that kind of money on one card. Just saying.

oldjudge 02-14-2019 08:04 PM

A fool and his money are soon separated

PiratesWS1979 02-14-2019 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1854777)
So they took an abundant base card and made a few of them green? Sorry not impressed.

So they made a lot of Red Cobb's but only a few Drum...Impressed?

Bored5000 02-14-2019 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1854790)
A fool and his money are soon separated

Jordan cards aren't what I choose to collect, either. But I don't agree with the "fool and his money..." opinion. I don't even know a whole lot about modern inserts, but I know that card is a holy grail for modern collectors/Jordan collectors just as much as any pre-war white whale is to people on here.

IMO, I can't see any way that card goes down 95 percent in 10 years. It is an insanely rare Jordan card; those don't crash in value.

Aquarian Sports Cards 02-14-2019 08:25 PM

But why is it a grail? There are one of ones, this is one of 10. I wouldn't make fun of someone for buying it (mainly because they obviously have enough money to not give a crap about my opinion lol) but that doesn't mean I get it.

MichelaiTorres83 02-14-2019 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiratesWS1979 (Post 1854795)
So they made a lot of Red Cobb's but only a few Drum...Impressed?

I would not use the word significant. Impressive, maybe. How much this card will sell for is impressive. A card does not become significant because of the sale prices. They become significant for other factors.

A t206 is a significant card because its part of a set that changed the card world and collecting. This mid ninties Jordan is not even close to that significant.

A Donruss elite card or a 1992 topps gold card is more significant than this Jordan. The Brian Taylor card.

vintagewhitesox 02-14-2019 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dictoresno (Post 1854768)
I don't think people understand or know about these cards or their scarcity. and at this point, this card is kind of like a Mantle rookie card. no matter what the grade, even altered, will go for a higher than normal amount vs another regular card in the same grade. especially one like this, that has higher PSA grade eye appeal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1854777)
So they took an abundant base card and made a few of them green? Sorry not impressed.

Is it any different than a tobacco card with a different back?

as the other poster said, there are some really tough 90s insert cards out there, very scare that are not widely known.
Cool card, hope the seller got his money.

Plus, anything Jordan is red hot.

Bigdaddy 02-14-2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ruth_rookie (Post 1854782)
Lmao. I was thinking the exact same thing. So what. It’s green and there’s only a handful that exist. There are only a handful (well, slightly more than a handful) of M101 Ruth rookies too. I’d buy the Ruth if I spent that kind of money on one card. Just saying.

I know plenty of people that would say the same about any early baseball card that is being said about this Green Jordan. Heck, I married one of them.

Not that I was even aware of this card or it's significance.

Peter_Spaeth 02-14-2019 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiratesWS1979 (Post 1854795)
So they made a lot of Red Cobb's but only a few Drum...Impressed?

More so than with the Jordans, unless unbeknownst to me few Drums were produced for the express purpose of creating a collectible in short supply. To me, limited production modern insert cards are all artificially scarce.

oldjudge 02-14-2019 08:35 PM

So every short print Jordan (or LaBron now) chase card becomes significant and will sell for six figures? Are you listening to yourself?

Peter_Spaeth 02-14-2019 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagewhitesox (Post 1854802)
Is it any different than a tobacco card with a different back?

as the other poster said, there are some really tough 90s insert cards out there, very scare that are not widely known.
Cool card, hope the seller got his money.

Plus, anything Jordan is red hot.

Anything except my 1985 Gatorade BGS 9 that I can't give away.

Peter_Spaeth 02-14-2019 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1854806)
So every short print Jordan (or LaBron now) chase card becomes significant and will sell for six figures? Are you listening to yourself?

Only the metallic green ones, bro.

vintagewhitesox 02-14-2019 08:45 PM

Anything with Jordan on the Bulls is on fire. From what I understand, he stopped licensing his image on the Bulls in 2010. His stuff with the Wizards isnt as popular. Like his gatorade bgs 9 :)
That card is tough tough tough. I wouldn't drop that sort of cake on it, but that doesnt make it significant. Cool card nonetheless.

PiratesWS1979 02-14-2019 08:48 PM

Not Jordan but I cant wait to see what a Mirror Gold Jeter PSA 10 fetches after the HOF voting.

Peter_Spaeth 02-14-2019 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagewhitesox (Post 1854812)
Anything with Jordan on the Bulls is on fire. From what I understand, he stopped licensing his image on the Bulls in 2010. His stuff with the Wizards isnt as popular. Like his gatorade bgs 9 :)
That card is tough tough tough. I wouldn't drop that sort of cake on it, but that doesnt make it significant. Cool card nonetheless.

Gatorade is a 1985 Bulls card I don't follow.


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