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T206 REFERENCE, Reflections.....Guess selling price of a near complete PIEDMONT set
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http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...lCYoung12x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign350x13.jpg Sample star cards in this PIEDMONT set........... OK, so no one is interested in playing the "guessing game" with the SOVEREIGN set. I can understand that, as the SOVEREIGN set is complicated with all it's No-Prints. So, how's about trying to guess what price my PIEDMONT set would sell for ? It's straight forward, as all 519 cards (includes MAGIE) in this set have PIEDMONT backs. No Wagner, Plank, or Joe Doyle NY Nat'l. No Demmitt or O'Hara St Louis variations (printed only with POLAR BEAR backs). This set's condition ranges from Vg to Ex. I look forward to your guesses....be reasonable with them :) And, have a great time at the National this week......and, find some time to check-out the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame Museum near Lake Erie. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ackjohnson.jpg Sample star cards...... http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...iedmont150.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...MONT460x50.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...mont150x12.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edmont150b.jpg..http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...460%20x50b.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edmont150b.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...50xP460x50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edCobb50xx.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...0xP460x50b.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...redCobb50x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ohsonSGC40.jpg TED Z . |
$50,000
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T206 REFERENCE, Reflections.....Guess selling price of a near complete PIEDMONT set
Hi Brendan
Sounds like a reasonable selling price. I like those numbers. Thanks for posting your guess. TED . |
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Hi Brian Your guess is quite reasonable. Thanks for posting your guess. TED . |
T206 REFERENCE, Reflections.....Guess selling price of a complete SWEET CAP, F#30 set
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http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ereign12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eetCap12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vereign12x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...t150x12xxx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...350x460x12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ardP350x11.jpg Last, but not least......If I were to sell my "complete" SWEET CAPORAL, Factory #30 set....what do you think it would sell for ? Actually, a complete SC f#30 set comprises of 469 cards. The following lists the 55 subjects which were never issued with the SC f#30 back............ 524 - [Joe Doyle Nat'L, Kleinow (Boston), Lundgren (Cubs), Magie, Smith (Chi & Bos), Demmitt & O'Hara (St Louis vars.), Southern Leaguers (48)] = 469 Now, I consider my set "complete" with 468 cards, because I will never have the Wagner card. The cards in this set range from Vg to Ex. So, I look forward your guesses as to what I can expect if I sell this set ? ? Please be reasonable with your estimates :) And, have a great National this week. I hope to see you all in Chicago next year. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...30xNYpackX.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...kSC150x30x.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...150F30x50b.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tory30xx12.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tcap42ovpt.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Cfactory30.jpg TED . |
T206 REFERENCE, Reflections.....Guess selling price of a complete SWEET CAP, F#30 set
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http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ereign12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eetCap12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vereign12x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...t150x12xxx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...350x460x12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ardP350x11.jpg The majority of the cards in this SWEET CAPORAL, Factory #30 set are in plastic pages in an album. Only about a dozen cards are graded. The cards in this set range from Vg to Ex....and, of course the Eddie Plank card is graded an "A". If I were to sell any of my T206 sets, this one would be the set I'd sell. So, come on guys, I'm waiting for some of your guesses on the selling price of this one. Here's a page from the album displaying some of this set's stars. Followed by back scans of their respective Series...... http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cap30stars.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cap30stars.jpg TED Z . |
$82,000
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T206 REFERENCE, Reflections.....Guess selling price of a complete SWEET CAP, F#30 set
WOW !
Brendan, that's some big $$$$$. Very tempting to sell this set, if I was offered that amount. Thanks for posting. TED Z . |
T206 Reference / Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc......INDEX
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http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...C150x30xxz.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ohnson208x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...t150x12xxx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ITxSGC30xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CobbSGCx12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yab350x19x.jpg ... Sweet Caporal ..... Sovereign ......... Piedmont ____The "House" that created these Tobacco cards______ UZIT .............. Sovereign ... American Beauty This thread will provide references to major contributions posted on Net54 these past 14 years that have formed a better understanding of "The Monster" [as Bill Heitman so aptly coined his T206 book (circa 1980)]. Let's start with the 2005-2006 publication of Scot Reader's Inside T206 An excellent, very informative, and well written book that inspired many of us Net54ers to post our experiences and theory's regarding the complexities of the T206 series. One of the early and very significant T206 threads was posted in June 2006 by Barry Arnold, titled T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection ? This thread sparked lots of brainstorming among Net54ers regarding T206's. It included surveys; and, various aspects of the T206 series were explored.....resulting in 363 meaningful posts. Furthermore, between many of us Net54ers, it was "the start of of a beautiful friendship" (to quote Claude Raines to Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca). In the Summer of 2006, Bill Brown posted his T206 Super-Set (excel) spreadsheet. Bill received 1000's of inputs from Net54ers for this spreadsheet. It was a great start in the pursuit of what a T206 "master" set would be comprised of....T206 Super-Set Sept 2007, I started a thread titled Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY to explore certain PIEDMONT 350 cards that I considered as rare as the Joe Doyle "error" card. I eventually referred to these particular T206's as the Elite 11 Subsequent posts in this thread will expand on theory's regarding the structure of the T206 series and the front/back permutations that have resulted. A fair number of the theory's presented on Net54 (since 2006) have withstood the test of time. Providing accurate lists of which front/back combos were printed. And, which ones are No-Prints. So, stay tuned......many more T206 "oldies but goodies" References and Reflections will be posted here. And, feel free to contribute any meaningful T206 stories, or experiences collecting T206's that you have. __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________________________ INDEX Post #1......Introduction....plus Scot Reader's " Inside T206 " book, and 3 significant T206 threads (circa..2006) for starters. Click on the topic of interest, then scan page for Post # noted Post #2......The beginning of the six "Super-Prints" Post #4......SOVEREIGN phantom "350/460" series (apple green cards) Post #5......350/460 series backs identified Post #8......350/460 series mutually-exclusive cards Post #22.....T206 Plank mystery Post #25.....T206 DRUM's...."A-B-C-D" connection Post #26.....A-B-C-D connection expanded Post #28.....1910 COUPON (T213-1) sub-set Post #30.....Ty Cobb / Ty Cobb back Post #31.....T206 Checklists....plus 1910 COUPON, T215-1 and Ty Cobb/Ty Cobb Posts #33 & 34.....Richard Russell's unique T206 collection Posts #35 - 36 & 38.....Exclusive 12 group (460-only series) Post #39.....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 No Frame subjects = DRUM subjects Posts #44 & 48.....Collecting T206 sets....tell us your story's Post #54.....T206 all-PIEDMONT set Post #65......SOVEREIGN set story Post #69......SWEET CAPORAL, Factory #30 set story Posts #72 & 74......AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 adventure Posts #76 - 77......T206 cards RE-FRONTED (or re-backed)....FAKE's ! Post #93.....T206 "Proofs" Post #96.....UZIT checklist Post #97.....Spring of 1911....T206 era ends....the start of the "Golden era" begins Post #98.....ATC Factory's associated with the White-Bordered cards (1909 - 1911) Posts #101 & 106.....BROAD LEAF 460 checklist Post #107.....Hobby greats....Frank Nagy and Bill Heitman Post #108.....CAROLINA BRIGHTS checklist Post #124.....PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42 checklist Posts #128 - 131.....Why are Connie Mack, Jack Coombs, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Smoky Joe Wood missing in the T206 set ? Posts #134 & 138.....Timeline of the T206 POLAR BEAR cards Post #144.....T206 OLD MILL (Major League series) cards Post #146..... T206 OLD MILL Southern League cards Post #161.....Southern League cards (continued) Post #162.....T206 Southern Leaguers Brown OLD MILL cards Post #171.....The mysterious T206 brown LENOX cards Post #181.....SWEET CAPORAL 460, Factory #30 backs (w/o Factory #42 overprint) Post #190.....El Principe de Gales T206 cards Post #196.....SWEET CAPORAL 350-460, Factory #42 overprint cards Post #198.....Regional source of the Elite 11 cards Posts #201 >> 227.....Show-n-tell us of your favorite T206's Posts #231 >> 234.....Show-n-tell us of your T206 Run(s) Posts #242 >> 248.....Show-n-tell us of your T206 Run(s) Post #262.....T206 Southern League cards (re-visited) Posts #263 >> 270.....T206 color printing errors......let's see some of these interesting T206's Posts #271 >> 276.....T206 color printing errors......let's see some of these interesting T206's Posts #282 >> 294.....The mysterious nature of the Red HINDU cards Posts #302 >> 316.....Show-n-tell us of your MAGIE cards Posts #328 >> 333.....T206 150-only subjects...... Posts #334 >> 346.....T206 TRIVIA QUIZ....1st correct answer wins T206 Posts #353 >> 358.....PIEDMONT set structure & checklist Posts #360 >> 366.....T206 TRIVIA QUIZ....1st correct answer wins T206 Post #368.....Reminiscing about T206's in 2005 Post #378.....Remembering Jantz Morey Posts #379 >> 385.....T206 TRIVIA QUIZ....1st correct answer wins T206 Posts #386 >> 402.....T206 printed sheet structure Posts #405 >> 440.....Show us your BROAD LEAF 350 cards Posts #441 >> 450.....Comparable printing patterns in T205's Posts #453 >> 467.....Guess the price of a near complete T206 set Posts #469 >> 470.....Guess the selling price of a COMPLETE SOVEREIGN set Posts #471 >> 474.....Guess selling price of a near complete PIEDMONT set Posts #476 >> 479.....Guess selling price of a complete SWEET CAP, F#30 set Posts #481 >> 490.....Show-n-Tell us of your T206 "finds" In this thread, I've tried to present some very complex aspects of the Series structure of the T206 set in a style which is understandable to most of the T206 collectors. However, if not clear, don't be shy about asking questions. Post your questions on this thread. Or, email me directly with your questions.... tedzan11@comcast.net In either event, I will gladly do my best to provide you clear and meaningful answer(s). TED Z . |
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