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Leon 09-26-2012 09:17 AM

Nice Ruth signature and story
 
Nice signature with an interesting story. I am not an autograph person but this one looks similar to most of the good ones I have seen. Thoughts on it's legitimacy? I just thought the story was interesting so posted....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-SI...item2c687b4c17




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Runscott 09-26-2012 10:50 AM

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BABE-RUTH-SIG...5Lw!~~60_3.JPG

To me it looks like a fresh signature on a recently scuffed-up ball.

isaac2004 09-26-2012 11:11 AM

I am not a Ruth expert, but if I am going to pay what most Ruth balls sell for, I want to see images of all sides of the ball and super close up of the signature to check for feathering.

Leon 09-26-2012 11:21 AM

A member sent me this link. Something is indeed rotten in the state of Denmark!!

http://m.naplesnews.com/news/2011/au...-bass-arrested


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mr2686 09-26-2012 11:31 AM

You know what they say, the better the story... :rolleyes:

jgmp123 09-26-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1039522)
A member sent me this link. Something is indeed rotten in the state of Denmark!!

http://m.naplesnews.com/news/2011/au...-bass-arrested


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“We have no idea how he was forging signatures,” Loux said. “We didn’t obtain a search warrant or get into his house.”

Geniuses! Might we ask why??????

isaac2004 09-26-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1039522)
A member sent me this link. Something is indeed rotten in the state of Denmark!!

http://m.naplesnews.com/news/2011/au...-bass-arrested


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I think the Pawn shop owner has to take some blame himself. No way in heck are you going to sell a Ruth for 1,500 if the signature is clear even if you are hard up, the owner had to know something was up, and was just bit when the new buyer wanted it certed. I wonder how much the ball was selling in the shop for.

JimStinson 09-26-2012 01:52 PM

JimStinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jgmp123 (Post 1039526)
“We have no idea how he was forging signatures,” Loux said. “We didn’t obtain a search warrant or get into his house.”

Let me give you a "TIP"
1) A Baseball
2) A Pen

chaddurbin 09-26-2012 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimStinson (Post 1039575)
Let me give you a "TIP"
1) A Baseball
2) A Pen

lol classic...

glchen 09-26-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isaac2004 (Post 1039518)
I am not a Ruth expert, but if I am going to pay what most Ruth balls sell for, I want to see images of all sides of the ball and super close up of the signature to check for feathering.

Out of curiosity, what does "feathering" mean and how does one check for it? I would also like to pick up a Ruth ball some day, and want to check to what to look for. I would still want an LOA from PSA or JSA, but I realize some sigs may get past them also.

isaac2004 09-26-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glchen (Post 1039580)
Out of curiosity, what does "feathering" mean and how does one check for it? I would also like to pick up a Ruth ball some day, and want to check to what to look for. I would still want an LOA from PSA or JSA, but I realize some sigs may get past them also.

More or less feathering is the fraying from new ink on an old ball, I don't have an sample handy, but once you see it you will know what I mean

Deertick 09-26-2012 04:26 PM

This guy lives 6 miles from me. Crime does not pay (much) in his case.

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...ison-sentence/

"Investigators say Szakaly's use of baseballs made by manufacturers who didn't start producing them until after Ruth's death also helped them determine the autographs couldn't be real."

JimStinson 09-26-2012 04:58 PM

JimStinson
 
Feathering Usually follows the Tarring so that the feathers have something to stick to :)

JimStinson 09-26-2012 05:24 PM

JimStinson
 
Seriously..the feathering referred to in regards to the Babe Ruth ball on this thread would have likely occured as a result of the forger , either using sandpaper or emory to remove any markings that would ID the ball as being POST 1948 (when Ruth died) ,
So simply put ..under magnification the area around the signatures would look like small rivers (or feathers) due to the rate of absorbtion of new ink applied to a recently reconditioned surface.
On OLD items the ink absorbed would appear more like a Halow around the signature when looked at under a "scope".


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