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Pickles 04-04-2015 10:22 AM

How high will this go?
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Babe-Ruth-au...#ht_115wt_1120


The signature is beyond my threshold of knowledge to determine "good" or "bad" The bidding is also somewhat suspect with a new member "leading the pack"

Any guesses on final value?

Is this real? Can it get a TPA cert? (2 different questions here)

Full disclosure: I am not bidding on this in any way shape or form, just observing.

HOFAUTOS 04-05-2015 11:12 AM

Good and it will get a cert if submitted

shelly 04-05-2015 02:44 PM

I dont think it is authentic.

Klrdds 04-05-2015 03:50 PM

I agree with Shelly that it is probably not authentic ( I would not have bid on it), but I bet it will get certed as HOFautos posted.

toyman55 04-05-2015 04:38 PM

Looking at other Ruth Autographs the word sincerely is way off looks more like
Sincrrrly

Bpm0014 04-05-2015 04:51 PM

Fairly confident it's good.

Runscott 04-05-2015 05:42 PM

No chance this is authentic.

edited to add: I agree that it will almost certainly get a cert if sent to PSA or JSA.

bnorth 04-05-2015 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyman55 (Post 1398522)
Looking at other Ruth Autographs the word sincerely is way off looks more like
Sincrrrly

It looks like Siiicrrrly to me. No opinion on the autograph as I know nothing about them.

shelly 04-06-2015 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1398546)
No chance this is authentic.

edited to add: I agree that it will almost certainly get a cert if sent to PSA or JSA.

:):):):):):)

Pickles 04-06-2015 02:21 PM

Final outcome
 
Item went for $3449. Add $300 for a TPA + S&H.... $3800

There is another item on sale by the same seller, Ted Williams photo

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ted-Williams...item19fdee211f

The "E" in the Ted seem to be very close to the address on the Ruth postcard (Elk****, In....)

Makes one wonder if Ted was the one addressing the Ruth postcard as well.....

Oh well

w7imel 04-07-2015 12:37 PM

No judgement good or bad from me, but whoever signed this (The Babe or not) did a pretty good job of it. The ink flow and pressure points sure look close to the exemplars I have seen magnified.

CW 04-07-2015 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1398563)
It looks like Siiicrrrly to me.

I always saw the same thing when reading the Babe's "Sincerely" notations, but then realized that his cursive "e" and "r" look nearly identical. Not saying this piece is good or bad, just pointing out Ruth's penmanship, and the fact that he did know how to spell "sincerely". :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by w7imel (Post 1399119)
No judgement good or bad from me, but whoever signed this (The Babe or not) did a pretty good job of it. The ink flow and pressure points sure look close to the exemplars I have seen magnified.

The problem with this, and as we've seen before on this forum, is you could very likely be viewing a high quality laser printed copy of the real piece, which would explain the flow and pressure looking correct when viewing online.

Runscott 04-08-2015 06:35 PM

His 'e' and 'r' do not look alike. They only look alike to us because we no longer write small 'e's like some did back then.

David Atkatz 04-11-2015 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1399660)
His 'e' and 'r' do not look alike. They only look alike to us because we no longer write small 'e's like some did back then.

Actually, Scott, in his "sincerely,' the "e"s and "r" are almost always nearly (but not quite) identical.

Runscott 04-12-2015 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Atkatz (Post 1400526)
Actually, Scott, in his "sincerely,' the "e"s and "r" are almost always nearly (but not quite) identical.

With Ruth they are two different letters, with forgers they are both 'r's. To me this is glaring, but obviously it isn't to most people, as many collectors think such forged Ruths are authentic.

David Atkatz 04-12-2015 07:43 PM

They are two different letters in this example, as well.

Runscott 04-12-2015 08:41 PM

Okay, thanks for your opinion David.

Stanesq 04-13-2015 05:11 AM

I saw the 1984 Topps Rose has a buy it now of $450. I wonder if this guy is related to the $85000 Jeter Man.

The Rose sig is good though.

Runscott 04-13-2015 04:27 PM

One last thing: David knows a lot more about Ruth autographs than me, as he's seen a lot more of them than I have and has been looking at them for a lot longer. This is a GPC, which is good. I should not have been so adamant about it being bad, but I am definitely adamant that I wouldn't personally acquire it. There are many, many genuine Ruth autographs out there, but because of all the forgeries (many more than good ones), and how good the forgers are getting, when I see certain characteristics on a Ruth I personally don't generally look further, and I'm sure that as a result I have given up early on some legitimate ones.

Better safe than sorry when spending $3,000+


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