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T206Collector 06-21-2011 06:45 AM

I get that Upper Deck was a butcher, but...
 
...this one really bothered me. As a collector of signed pre-war cards, the 1960s Fleer sets are a nice way to grab an old superstar's signature on a relatively old baseball card. Why cut this one up -- particularly this way, with this level of absentmindedness or overall care -- when you are only creating another baseball card? This is truly one step closer to getting a T206 Wagner and chopping it up for inclusion in 100 baseball card swatches. Yuck...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_1199wt_922

terjung 06-21-2011 07:32 AM

Wow. That's really ugly (and a shame).

quinnsryche 06-21-2011 08:58 AM

What???
 
Dammit, I need that card! One less in the world. Why would you buy a card like that and cut it up? :confused: That's just f***ing stupid. :mad: I guess that's why they only have the Hockey license anymore, baseball, football and basketball don't want anything to do with them.

Exhibitman 06-21-2011 09:08 AM

That SUCKS!!!! it's one thing to cut up a jersey but to cut up a card to make another (less desirable) card? Oh, the humanity! At long last, Upper Deck, have you no sense of decency?

t206hound 06-21-2011 11:56 AM

Ugh.
 
I can see taking a signed index card and incorporating into a "cut signature" card, but slicing up an already autographed card to create a "special edition of 8" is just ridiculous. And note that the edition size isn't for eight identical cards, just eight cards with the signature. Were there no more available signed index cards?

Here's number 2/8 that is on a HOF postcard?
http://www.bandkgreen.net/lefty_grov...s_auto_sn8.jpg

Anthony S. 06-21-2011 12:24 PM

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Reminds me of the Leonardo cut sig I picked up recently. Hope it wasn't a good painting.

drc 06-21-2011 12:33 PM

A funny one (not in the good sense) was a modern certified autograph card that had the signature cut from a different modern certified autograph card.

dstraate 06-21-2011 12:35 PM

Reminds me of Wilson from Home Improvement.

terjung 06-21-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by drc (Post 902649)
A funny one (not in the good sense) was a modern certified autograph card that had the signature cut from a different modern certified autograph card.

seriously?

Do you have a picture of that one or a link to see it?

sbfinley 06-21-2011 01:29 PM

The sad thing is that is one of the better looking cuts they made.

Best looking Bob Feller cut they could find.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-SP-LEGENDAR...item415afe83cd


Screw it, just tape it on.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pee-Wee-Reese-20...item3a66b4e12f


I couldn't find a photo of it, but I've seen a Jackie Robinson cut where the cut off the "on" to make it fit on the card. "Jackie Robins" was all that was visable.

t206hound 06-21-2011 02:14 PM

A one of one opportunity
 
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Maybe I'll buy up all of the autographed T206s and release my own "one of one" sets. Here's my first prototype... any buyers? ;)

quinnsryche 06-21-2011 02:56 PM

Let me be the first to make an offer: one kick square to the groin.:D

novakjr 06-21-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by t206hound (Post 902672)
Maybe I'll buy up all of the autographed T206s and release my own "one of one" sets. Here's my first prototype... any buyers? ;)

Very nice!!! The only thing that could've been more ridiculous is if you would have cropped it onto the same card.

doug.goodman 06-21-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by novakjr (Post 902686)
Very nice!!! The only thing that could've been more ridiculous is if you would have cropped it onto the same card.

Laughing out loud

Steve D 06-21-2011 05:24 PM

Here's one of several I've seen where Upper Deck has cut up a signed Perez-Steele postcard:

http://i.ebayimg.com/18/!BkoU++w!Wk~...)cIjg~~_12.JPG

Steve

Matthew H 06-22-2011 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by terjung (Post 902655)
seriously?

Do you have a picture of that one or a link to see it?

I don't have a scan, but I once saw a Donruss Ted Williams Cut card that was made out of his 2001 donruss classics auto'd card.

wheels56 06-22-2011 12:41 AM

We have to go deeper...
 
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T206Collector 06-22-2011 08:36 AM

I feel better now...
 
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Frank A 06-22-2011 08:44 AM

uooer Deck never cared, it was all for the money. They started the demize with there expensive prices back in 89. then they went to the memmoribilia cut ups. To compete, everyone else did it. Now the prices for cards are way overboard. Who the hell wants to pay $4 for 6 new cards. They drove the kids out. This will really hurt the hobby in years to come. Thank Upper Deck for all this. Frank

doug.goodman 06-22-2011 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank A (Post 902845)
uooer Deck never cared, it was all for the money. They started the demize with there expensive prices back in 89. then they went to the memmoribilia cut ups. To compete, everyone else did it. Now the prices for cards are way overboard. Who the hell wants to pay $4 for 6 new cards. They drove the kids out. This will really hurt the hobby in years to come. Thank Upper Deck for all this. Frank

In addition to causing me to stop buying "new" cards, the good news is that chase cards can be directly credited with causing me (and I'm sure others) to start collecting "old" stuff.

My response to (I think it was a Willie Mays) chase card in 1991 (or so), was to stop buying new cards completely and start working on my 1967 Topps set, my logic being "why pay $4 for new cards, when I can get 1967 commons for less".

Soon after, I discovered Tip Top Weeklies, Police Gazettes, La Press supplements, Harper's woodcuts, etc, etc.

So I suppose I should thank Upper Deck for screwing up the hobby.

Doug

quinnsryche 06-22-2011 10:26 AM

I don't know if you can completely blame UD for "ruining the hobby". How about putting some (if not a majority) of the blame on collectors? If no one buys this garbage, they don't make it. They are only supplying what the public is asking for in most cases. I will say that my 11 year old son loves the patch cards, the more colorful the better, and it has done more to raise his interest in the hobby than any other thing he has come across. He pulled a Babe Ruth card with a piece of bat on it a couple years ago and that card has done more for sparking an interest in older players than any documentary or book ever has. I know that horrifies many on this board, but that's the reality these days.

mdschulze 06-22-2011 11:07 AM

I agree with Tony. I find myself picking up a box of the new stuff about once a month just for the chance of getting lucky... although I'm a gambler by nature anyway and I know the odds are slim. My 13 yr old son loves to help open the packs and search for the game used stuff and autos. If this helps to spike interest in the youth... I'm all for it.

Tabe 06-22-2011 11:11 PM

I am a big fan of jersey cards but only for modern players. I don't like the idea of cutting up a Ruth jersey or something like that but a Peyton Manning? The guy probably wears 20+ jerseys a season. I have no problem with cutting up one of those.

Tabe


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