Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1688408)

That's so true. If you happened to be on their list great. If not you would never have heard of it. Same as when they sold the Harry Shaffer collection. I didn't hear of it until the last phase. When I saw the stuff I'd missed I threw up a little in my mouth.

Despite the hide the ball stuff I actually thought prices were pretty strong when it was possible to figure out WTF they were selling. Still, I cannot understand how an experienced auctioneer could throw 600 cards in a lot with no descriptions and fewer than half shown or offer an 800 pin lot with a pick up only restriction. It is like they just didn't care.

And of course the usual ridiculous shipping costs. Over $35 to send me a few postcards and a small memorabilia item. I could ship it twice for that.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1688408)

That's so true. If you happened to be on their list great. If not you would never have heard of it. Same as when they sold the Harry Shaffer collection. I didn't hear of it until the last phase. When I saw the stuff I'd missed I threw up a little in my mouth.

Despite the hide the ball stuff I actually thought prices were pretty strong when it was possible to figure out WTF they were selling. Still, I cannot understand how an experienced auctioneer could throw 600 cards in a lot with no descriptions and fewer than half shown or offer an 800 pin lot with a pick up only restriction. It is like they just didn't care.

And of course the usual ridiculous shipping costs. Over $35 to send me a few postcards and a small memorabilia item. I could ship it twice for that.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1693049)

OK, now it gets weird. The "JSA Auction Letter" turns out to be a full JSA LOA. The item, sadly, is a preprint. Here is the one I already own (top card):

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...ly%20cards.jpg

Unless Jim Jeffries managed to sign these cards with identically placed and sized signatures, right down to the spacing of the loops between the letters, this is a preprint that JSA certified as an autograph with its full LOA, after being "thoroughly examined."

Really???

ETA: I do have to clarify one thing: the 'signature' is an overprint, not a watermark. Regardless, it ain't signed. I think I'll contact JSA...

Originally Posted by David Atkatz (Post 1693053)

The "signature" may be an overprint, but one thing is certain. The two examples you show are most definitely not identical.

Originally Posted by David Atkatz (Post 1693053)

The "signature" may be an overprint, but one thing is certain. The two examples you show are most definitely not identical.

Originally Posted by MEARSAUCTIONS (Post 1693348)

Net54 Members,

I was traveling yesterday and was not able to review and post a response until now. The postcard that was sold in our July boxing auction should never have been offered with a JSA letter.

It was an obvious facsimile and should have been removed at the time of our initial lotting.

I take full responsibility for the mistake and will issue a refund to Adam.

Regards,


Troy R. Kinunen - MEARS Auctions
troy@mearsonline.com , 414 828 9990


PS: If anybody has any immediate questions or comments, give me a call as I will have limited access to internet today for the purpose of checking this post or reading emails.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1687808)

MEARS offered this lot yesterday:

http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.co...13391a_lg.jpeg

Described this way:

Title: 1910-1920 circa J.J. Jeffries signed 3 x 5 card (JSA)
Description: Vintage card with excellent condition signature.

Absolutely false. The card is a mail reply card that Jeffries used to respond to fan mail. His signature is a pre-print, readily seen as such by anyone paying slight attention to the item, or with my book, where I cover these cards. I bought the lot, for the Sam Berger-Jim Jeffries PC (bottom row middle) and to a lesser extent the Jordan-Jeffries PC, but if I was in any way relying on the AH or JSA I'd be very, very pissed off when I received the lot, sent it in with the additional fees (because when you get an auction LOA all you are really getting is a discount price on a submission to the authenticator the AH contracts with, not an actual LOA), and then had JSA fail it as a pre-print.

I think it is time we consumers start throwing around our muscle when it comes to these asinine 'auction LOAs'. Let's boycott them by not bidding on any lot that relies on them.