Stains Get Condoned (SGC)
 

I guess they missed the staining.

But still, such a great company.

A stain on their reputation?

Has Monica weighed in?
 

seriously though that's a terrible picture - without knowing the card with all the shadows and reflections hard to see anything. In any event - I assume it's quite noticeable. From my experience with OJ and other photo cards - image quality and other photo related concepts are not given consideration. Of course staining is a fault and should be accounted for. Can you post a better pic.? SGC is imperfect as is PSA and any other grading company. Does this one really rise to the level of incompetence as some of the many other miss-graded cards we've seen on here?

Henry-It is in an auction that ends today so I will tomorrow. I'll post a link then.

Inconclusive at BEST (bolded, underlined and in blue for maximum hypnotic effect) with the above picture.

So, in cases where an OJ's image is barely discernable, should they be graded with similar scrutiny? I would take this card over a lot of washed out 5s I've seen.

I have to admit I can't see a stain either. I'd probably give it a 4 or 5 from what I can see in the picture.

Check out Lot 80007 in Heritage. That will show the image.

I was an underbidder on the Mike Dorgan card. I didn't pursue it because it would make my Old Judge collection look bad. They had it a "6". To me, it was a 10. I ignore grading companies when it comes to n172 or any sets I follow. Grading is for George Blanda Bowman's.

Old Judges have never been graded the way they should be. It's been a good talking point for years.

Funny thing is, it probably would have been downgraded if the same stain was on the back instead of the front.

Leon-That isn’t an example of the quirks of Old Judge grading—the graders just missed the staining. Bad job by them.
Todd-I’m sure you are right. The stains would have been more obvious on the back, although most Old Judge collectors couldn’t care less if they were.

Jay - you know these photographic cards as well or better than anyone. Out of curiosity, what do you think the accurate grade should be on this card?

is he buying or selling?

Kevin-I know more about what I like than grading. That staining would annoy me a lot more than, for example, paper loss on the back of the card. For an Old Judge card, as you know, photo clarity/visual appeal is paramount. I would call it VG or G/VG if I had to grade it.