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Bored5000 04-01-2018 01:32 AM

How much of a deal breaker is paper loss on the back of a card for you?
 
I kind of waffle back and forth on this and was interested to read some other opinions. How much does paper loss on the back of a card (from scrapbook removal, as an example) bother you if the front of the card presents well? Would you buy an iconic card graded as a "1" with significant paper loss on the back, or would it would bother you every time you looked at the card?

Thanks in advance for any opinions.

Sean 04-01-2018 01:38 AM

The only time that it really matters is when I buy the card for the back...Drum, Uzit, etc.

Sometimes I'm actually grateful for the paper loss, because it makes a card affordable that still displays well on the front.

jasonc 04-01-2018 03:31 AM

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100% agree with Sean, sometimes it makes it a deal and not a deal breaker. I've seen many T206's with beautiful fronts with great color, registration and centering, and non-existent creases have about 1/4 of the card with paper loss on the back and you can get the card at a pretty good value most of the time.

Now if it's something where the back matters, T205, 50's topps, a rare T206 back, I suppose it makes a difference. But. considering my budget, it helps if I make compromises.

MattyC 04-01-2018 06:27 AM

More like deal-MAKER :)

bnorth 04-01-2018 06:39 AM

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I will let the picture of my 55 Bowman Mantle do the talking for me.:)

ValKehl 04-01-2018 09:24 AM

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I wouldn't want a card with back damage for my type-card collection, unless it was originally issued with a blank back. But, for the master Sam Rice collection I am working on, I'll gladly accept a rare card with back damage, because I may never see another one - here are a couple of examples:

Fred 04-01-2018 02:19 PM

If the card is a blank back card, then I don't mind if there are small paper pulls or writing.

On a card with a back that has writing or is ornate then a very small paper pull is ok with me as long as it doesn't detract from the overall appearance of the card.

pokerplyr80 04-01-2018 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1763218)
More like deal-MAKER :)

Yea I'm still looking for a nice cj Jackson with a front that looks like a 7 and some paper loss on the back. PM me if you have one available.

PowderedH2O 04-01-2018 03:36 PM

I collect a fair amount of cards with blank backs or postcard backs. Every now and then I get one with writing or scrapbook residue. Usually I get these cards for less than half of what they would go for otherwise. I just bought an Exhibit Ruth that had some scrapbook residue, so it was graded PSA 1. But, it had the look of a PSA 3 all day. More than happy to pay PSA 1 money for that.

x2drich2000 04-01-2018 03:53 PM

To me it really depends on the card. Common card I could find at any time, I'll pass. Rare card, even if the back matters, I usually don't care.

This is the only PSA graded and only 1 SGC graded.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4379/...f54f3ed4_c.jpg

2dueces 04-01-2018 04:23 PM

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MattyC 04-01-2018 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1763366)
Yea I'm still looking for a nice cj Jackson with a front that looks like a 7 and some paper loss on the back. PM me if you have one available.

I'll see what I can find for ya... So you'd say you're looking for a "HIGH END PSA/SGC 1" then...right? ;)

Wite3 04-01-2018 05:25 PM

Blank back is generally fine if there is damage but for my t205s, because the backs are part of the lure, no back damage for me.

Joshua

brianp-beme 04-01-2018 07:10 PM

A guy has to have standards
 
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Here are front and back scans of my Diamond Stars Hornsby. I almost decided against this card because I thought there possibly was minor paper loss on the left border of the reverse.

Brian

pokerplyr80 04-01-2018 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1763391)
I'll see what I can find for ya... So you'd say you're looking for a "HIGH END PSA/SGC 1" then...right? ;)

I'm always on the lookout. I might have to let a couple cards go if one becomes available.

the-illini 04-01-2018 09:19 PM

I collect for the front of the card - I actually prefer cards with back damage if the front is exceptional; makes the card much less expensive in many cases.

SMPEP 04-02-2018 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1763441)
Here are front and back scans of my Diamond Stars Hornsby. I almost decided against this card because I thought there possibly was minor paper loss on the left border of the reverse.

Brian

Awesome card Brian! Better than any stupid PSA 10! Love it!

Cheers,
Patrick

packs 04-02-2018 09:10 AM

Sometimes paper loss can be your very best friend, that saves you money and still treats you to the high life:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4531/...07c091e8ba.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4649/...b11fc0aee0.jpg

frankbmd 04-02-2018 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1763441)
Here are front and back scans of my Diamond Stars Hornsby. I almost decided against this card because I thought there possibly was minor paper loss on the left border of the reverse.

Brian

I don’t like the ears.

GasHouseGang 04-02-2018 10:16 AM

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The only cards where it would really concern me, is where I want to be able to read the back. Otherwise, I like getting a card that would be too expensive without the damage. Here are a few I've acquired in this category.

T206Collector 04-02-2018 10:58 AM

The glue stains and paper loss made this one harder for Chief Meyers to sign, but I would have pursued it as heavily without any back damage. Heck, maybe he even decided to write his signature so beautifully on the front only after having trouble with the back! You have to accept rare cards as you find them.

<img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8120/29461322212_f071fa1409_o.jpg" width="948" height="763" alt="Meyers Batting Auto SGC 20"></a>

mechanicalman 04-02-2018 11:53 AM

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I simply love me some minor paper loss on the back when the front looks this good.


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