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tedzan 03-10-2015 02:45 PM

A picture is worth 1000 words............
 
Here's the group of the 22 tobacco advertisement backs that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 350/460 Series............


460-type backs

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...series25xx.jpg


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...0factory42.jpghttp://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...psc8c09003.jpg
.......................... Factory #42 ........................




350-type backs

http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...psee0acdf3.jpg

http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...psc6a66af6.jpg





Note....Any back other than these 22 depicted here on a 350/460 series subject is a re-fronted (re-backed) fake.


TED Z
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tedzan 03-10-2015 04:01 PM

A picture is worth 1000 words............
 
Illustrated here are the 16 tobacco advertisement backs that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 460-only Series............


..... Factory #25 .....
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...andArray50.jpg
.... Factory #30 ....... Factory #42 ........... Factory #42 .....



http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...0factory42.jpg.http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...psc8c09003.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...erUZITx50b.jpg
......................... Factory #42 ....................




The only red HINDU cards in the 460-only series are the "Exclusive 12"............
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...anted86/rh.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...460x42x25x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...460x42x25x.jpg





Note....Any back other than these 16 depicted here on a 460-only series subject is a re-fronted (re-backed) fake.



TED Z
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tedzan 03-10-2015 07:14 PM

Consolidated access to 15 front/back surveys of the T206 T-brands....UPDATED
 
For ease of access, I have consolidated all 15 - T206 front/back surveys that I have previously conducted on Net54.

Furthermore, I have also included the T213-1 and T215-1 checklists....as these sets fall under the "T206 rubric" in
that they are White-Bordered, Brown-Captioned Tobacco cards printed and issued by American Lithographic within
the 1909 - 1912 timeline.

And I've included the Ty Cobb card with the "TY COBB" back, since it too conforms to the above stated T206 rubric.


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...y18tt206bk.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cobbtycobb.jpg




T206 confirmed front/back surveys with respect to T-brand.

AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 & 460

BROAD LEAF 350 & 460

BROAD LEAF 460

CAROLINA BRIGHTS

CYCLE 350 & 460

DRUM

EL PRINCIPE de GALES

Brown HINDU

Red HINDU

LENOX

OLD MILL

PIEDMONT

POLAR BEAR

SOVEREIGN

SWEET CAPORAL

TOLSTOI

UZIT


1910 COUPON (T213-1)


1910-1912 RED CROSS (T215-1)


Ty Cobb / "TY COBB" Tobacco



This project has been a work in progress on Net54 since 2005. Any new inputs (or corrections) to these surveys are greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

TED Z
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xplainer 03-10-2015 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abravefan11 (Post 891638)
Leon - There is no way to make accurate corrections, additions or deletions if the administrator of the list is unwilling to make those changes even when presented with the proper information. This has lead several collectors/researchers like myself to stop participating in this project.

Ok. This was stated several years ago, but was never addressed. So what is the deal?
Very informative thread, but what is meant by this comment? What exactly are we talking about?

Jantz 03-10-2015 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xplainer (Post 1389339)
Ok. This was stated several years ago, but was never addressed. So what is the deal?
Very informative thread, but what is meant by this comment? What exactly are we talking about?

Conflicts of opinion Jimmy, that's all.

Quite a few members are working on reconstructing a T206 sheet and when you get that many people all working toward the same goal, you're bound to have a few conflicts of opinion.

I can't speak for Tim, but that's about the best way I can explain it.


J@ntz

tedzan 03-11-2015 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xplainer (Post 1389339)
Ok. This was stated several years ago, but was never addressed. So what is the deal?
Very informative thread, but what is meant by this comment? What exactly are we talking about?


FYI....I have assembled the info in this thread from 100's and 100's of Net54 contributers's inputs since 2005 when I began conducting these T206 surveys.

Therefore, the comment you are inquiring about from this one person is not of any practical relevance.

And, perhaps that is why no one in the past 4 years has responded to his claim.


TED Z
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tedzan 03-11-2015 06:46 PM

Ty Cobb / "TY COBB" Tobacco
 
Please note that I have included the red Cobb with the "TY COBB" back to the above list.

I personally feel that this card should be classified as a T206. Others on this forum may differ with this, and that is fine.


TED Z
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Leon 03-11-2015 07:08 PM

I still don't put T213-1 or T215 into the T206 set. There is definitive proof in the ACC. But I am not going to get my panties in a wad either.

I am on the fence concerning the Cobb back...

tedzan 03-13-2015 02:44 PM

Hi Leon
 
I know I'm not going to persuade you regarding the 1910 COUPON cards as T206's....much less the T215-1 cards as T206's.

Anyhow, it is nice to know that you are considering the Ty Cobb / TY COBB card as a possible member of the T206 "family".


And that's fine....like I once said to you some years ago....we live in a 1/3 rd world :)


Take care,

TED Z
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