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I agree with Mike also, the Sport Kings Rockne is much more aesthetically appealing than the National Chicle. My wife says "He looks like a baby doll" on the National Chicle and actually calls the card the "Baby Head card"! :) |
I just want to sat thank you to everyone posting on here. My account was just activated this morning, but I read through this in detail last night. I appreciate the knowledge and book suggestions!
I love college football and don't care at all for the NFL, but I've decided to get back into vintage football because of my love and respect for the history. I've loved the books I've read on early football and will be reading more soon. Again, just wanted to thank everyone. I was advised to come to net54 if I wanted to get into vintage and I'm not disappointed in what I've found. Can't wait to read more on this, and other, threads! -Kin |
Welcome aboard Kin!
The first thing that came to mind when I saw WVU and your interest in history was Greasy Neale. He's from West Virginia, coached briefly at WVU, but what's amazing to me is following his thread through NFL history. He played with Jim Thorpe, coached the Ironton Tanks, won 2 NFL titles with some great Eagles teams, etc. |
Thank you for the welcome! I feel it was on this thread that I saw something posted of Neale and thought immediately that I need to pick up something. Now, to figure out what and how to come by it...
There was another name mentioned that coached at WVU for just one season, but the name is escaping me at 6:15 in the morning. Quote:
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http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...40130_0045.jpg This period Neale is affordable but doesn't show him in his football uniform. http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...ize/greasy.jpg jeff |
In the early 1920s, Jim Thorpe was hired by Walter Lingo to coach a team called the Oorang Indians. The Indians were a traveling NFL team that was a showcase for Lingo's Oorang dog kennels. The team was in the NFL in 1922 and 1923 but only went 4-16 ... mainly because Lingo cared more about showcasing his Airedale dogs and Indian players than winning games.
Oorang Indians letterhead http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...50904_0001.jpg All of the Indians players were at least partially of Indian descent. Thorpe brought in some of his former mates from Carlisle and Canton (including Pete Calac) but also younger Indian players. Big Bear in his Oorang uniform http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...ig%20Bear.jpeg Pete Calac in his Canton uniform http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...size/Calac.jpg Thorpe in his Canton uniform http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...ize/Thorpe.jpg jeff |
It's not easy finding contemporary items for the Oorgang Indians - I did pick up this wire photo with a tear sheet on the back for how it was cropped and used in the newspaper
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b...520Indians.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m...520caption.jpg |
Very nice, Mike! I think I tried to snag that but you outbid me.
jeff |
Haven't posted in this thread in a while but have picked up some nice pre-war stuff in the past month.
Cabinet cards of the 1890 and 1892 Yale football teams. The 1890 cabinet has Pudge Heffelfinger in it while the 1892 cabinet has Frank Hinkey. Cabinet cards like this are sooo cool as they are basically the football cards of the 1800s. http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...51006_0015.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...51006_0016.jpg I showed this image of Thorpe and his backfield mates at Carlisle earlier in this thread but that photo was a re-strike (a photo produced later in time from an original negative) and this is an original. http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...51006_0005.jpg Another original photo. This one of Pop Warner coaching his Carlisle boys. http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...51006_0006.jpg The Mayo set is actually not the only football tobacco set produced. Here are a few cards from the scarce 1928 Aguilitas set that depicts Cuban football players. Backs of the cards are in spanish. I'm looking for more info on the origins of this set so if anyone is familiar with it (or the Aguilitas company), please PM me. http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall.../firstone.jpeg http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...51009_0009.jpg Last but definitely not least, I finally snagged an example of a Shotwell Red Grange candy box. http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...backs//001.JPG jeff |
Picked up this box for a Red Grange football a while back. I may have posted it on here somewhere.
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...ebsize/010.JPG Recently I was able to pick up a football that was contained in this box and its even autographed and dated by Grange! http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...efootball.jpeg http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...football2.jpeg http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...football3.jpeg To hold something that Grange had in his hands is just simply awesome! jeff |
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