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jchcollins 11-08-2019 06:43 AM

'93 SP Jeter
 
What is the current advice on this card holding it's value? At this point I don't suspect it will suddenly not become "the" Jeter rookie, and the guy is going to be a Hall of Famer in less than a year. My LCS has one for $250 that would probably grade around a 6 or a 7 and I'm wondering if it may be worth picking up.

Thanks for any help, again I'm a 95% vintage guy.

Hxcmilkshake 11-08-2019 09:05 AM

Raw? Make sure it wasn't previously graded before and came back short. Alot of these are cut short from the factory.

But I don't see his prices going down. Like Trout I keep waiting for it but in the end I just sucked it up and bought.

Like you said its THE Jeter to get

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WillBBC 11-08-2019 09:13 AM

^^what he said.

If you're hell-bent on getting one now and have the budget I'd highly recommend buying one already graded. This card has a reputation for a reason!

If your budget is right around 250-300 you may want to consider a PSA 10 Topps rookie. Quickly becoming a classic.

jchcollins 11-08-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hxcmilkshake (Post 1929446)
Raw? Make sure it wasn't previously graded before and came back short. Alot of these are cut short from the factory.

But I don't see his prices going down. Like Trout I keep waiting for it but in the end I just sucked it up and bought.

Like you said its THE Jeter to get

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I bought it. I measured carefully with several other cards before I did, and it's not short.

jchcollins 11-08-2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by WillBBC (Post 1929451)
^^what he said.

If you're hell-bent on getting one now and have the budget I'd highly recommend buying one already graded. This card has a reputation for a reason!

If your budget is right around 250-300 you may want to consider a PSA 10 Topps rookie. Quickly becoming a classic.

Thanks - good idea, but for the moment I'm concerned with the SP.

I may buy a graded one as well, just not sure how the extent of surface damage works on these. For example I saw some 7's and 7.5's online that had scratches I was surprised were allowed for a 7. But the more of these I looked at, virtually all of them are that way. (I'm not going for a 9 or anything like that).

I have a feeling this may wind up being the equivalent of the '86 Fleer Jordan for 90's baseball cards - and want to grab one that's decently priced now just to sock away before it's too late.

jchcollins 11-08-2019 11:15 AM

'93 SP Jeter
 
This is the raw one I just bought. My guess is that it would grade anywhere from a 6 to a 7, but of course with TPG’s these days...who knows. It looks good to me, but there is some of the usual surface wear on the foil, and it is not an 8 or above card or anything like that.

Sorry, it’s difficult as hell to get a decent picture with both the foil on this card and the case, but here are a few attempts:

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BeanTown 11-08-2019 12:50 PM

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I think a card with a lot of upside are his Little Sun items.

Hxcmilkshake 11-08-2019 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins (Post 1929492)
This is the raw one I just bought. My guess is that it would grade anywhere from a 6 to a 7, but of course with TPG’s these days...who knows. It looks good to me, but there is some of the usual surface wear on the foil, and it is not an 8 or above card or anything like that.

Sorry, it’s difficult as hell to get a decent picture with both the foil on this card and the case, but here are a few attempts:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...19c550b8d9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5abd8c5b2c.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...30b0b59436.jpg


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Nice purchase congrats

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jchcollins 11-09-2019 07:28 AM

So. The more I look at this card, I'm wondering if it is a factory short cut. The SP Jeter's are notorious for them. The top of his cap on the back is slightly cut off, and depending on which time I measure - I sometimes think it's somewhere between 1/32 and 1/16 short. Other times I compare it to another card and think it's fine.

Thoughts? BGS and SGC have traditionally had a little more leeway for factory miscuts than PSA.

Hxcmilkshake 11-09-2019 12:11 PM

Yes its short. You can see the full NY on my PSA 5

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irv 11-09-2019 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins (Post 1929757)
So. The more I look at this card, I'm wondering if it is a factory short cut. The SP Jeter's are notorious for them. The top of his cap on the back is slightly cut off, and depending on which time I measure - I sometimes think it's somewhere between 1/32 and 1/16 short. Other times I compare it to another card and think it's fine.

Thoughts? BGS and SGC have traditionally had a little more leeway for factory miscuts than PSA.

There is currently a pile of these for sale on ebay. Some are short and some aren't but most are graded.
Not sure I seen any quite as short as yours but I only checked the first and part of the second page.
https://www.ebay.com/b/1993-Derek-Je...13/bn_57333983

jchcollins 11-10-2019 06:55 AM

'93 SP Jeter
 
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Originally Posted by Hxcmilkshake (Post 1929828)
Yes its short. You can see the full NY on my PSA 5

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I’m not sure that alone means it’s short though; could also just be indicative of a centering issue. If you look at Jeter’s feet and his name on the front of my card, they are slightly high in comparison to others.


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Peter_Spaeth 11-10-2019 08:40 AM

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I’m not sure that alone means it’s short though; could also just be indicative of a centering issue. If you look at Jeter’s feet and his name on the front of my card, they are slightly high in comparison to others.


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Lots of room under his shoe, more than usual. It's a centering issue. A raw nice but not mint Jeter sitting in a local store trimmed? Let's not get too paranoid.

jchcollins 11-10-2019 02:08 PM

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Lots of room under his shoe, more than usual. It's a centering issue. A raw nice but not mint Jeter sitting in a local store trimmed? Let's not get too paranoid.


Thanks Peter. I think you’re right. I’ve measured it about a dozen times in the last two days, and if it is short, it’s microscopically short. At any rate, I have an SGC 7 on the way that should be here early next week which I will be able to compare it to. I think it’s a centering issue as well… Ironically it makes Jeter on the front of the card be a tad bit better proportioned? These damn modern cards, I really should stick to vintage. [emoji4]


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Peter_Spaeth 11-10-2019 02:29 PM

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Thanks Peter. I think you’re right. I’ve measured it about a dozen times in the last two days, and if it is short, it’s microscopically short. At any rate, I have an SGC 7 on the way that should be here early next week which I will be able to compare it to. I think it’s a centering issue as well… Ironically it makes Jeter on the front of the card be a tad bit better proportioned? These damn modern cards, I really should stick to vintage. [emoji4]


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Stop obsessing about it lol.

jchcollins 11-10-2019 02:39 PM

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Stop obsessing about it lol.


Unfortunately that’s my specialty - usually with vintage.


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Peter_Spaeth 11-10-2019 03:25 PM

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Unfortunately that’s my specialty - usually with vintage.


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Measuring it again is not going to change the result, the card is stable, I assure you.

jchcollins 11-10-2019 03:46 PM

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Measuring it again is not going to change the result, the card is stable, I assure you.



This much I will agree is true, LOL.


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