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khkco4bls 12-28-2018 08:02 PM

Ty cobb real or not
 
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Heeeellllppppp. Please. On a reach joe cronin ball. Thanks

khkco4bls 12-28-2018 08:38 PM

Anyone chime in?

Duluth Eskimo 12-28-2018 10:11 PM

My immediate thought is that it appears fabricated

Duluth Eskimo 12-28-2018 10:12 PM

The Cobb looks stretched out.

w7imel 12-28-2018 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by khkco4bls (Post 1840369)
Heeeellllppppp. Please. On a reach joe cronin ball. Thanks

Need a better picture for sure if possible:)

yanks12025 12-29-2018 04:24 AM

It's one of those replica baseballs.

Kco 12-29-2018 06:49 AM

Facsimile ball, would be a 5 figure ball with ease if it was real

keithsky 12-29-2018 08:14 AM

I'm always leery when a ball signed by the old timers like Cobb, Ruth and so on from that era put inscriptions on there like dates or stats of some sort. Don't think they did that back then like maybe now. It's like the crap from CC with all the balls they auction off most have stats or dates of some sort.

perezfan 12-29-2018 01:38 PM

Cobb would frequently sign the ball along with that day's date. But other than that, I agree... these notations were not "a thing" back then.

henson1855 01-02-2019 09:08 PM

The original sold at Heritage, so it was a thing at least once.
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515

SetBuilder 01-02-2019 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by keithsky (Post 1840435)
I'm always leery when a ball signed by the old timers like Cobb, Ruth and so on from that era put inscriptions on there like dates or stats of some sort. Don't think they did that back then like maybe now. It's like the crap from CC with all the balls they auction off most have stats or dates of some sort.

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1840496)
Cobb would frequently sign the ball along with that day's date. But other than that, I agree... these notations were not "a thing" back then.

Those aren't stats. It's the teams he played for along with the years. It wasn't unheard of for players to do this, but not all that common either. I've seen other examples from players like Walter Johnson and Joe Kelley, to name a few...

Bigdaddy 01-02-2019 10:26 PM

Not sure if you were implying it or not, but those two balls are not the same. Note the 'Finnis'?? at the bottom of the Heritage ball; not present on the OPs picture.


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Originally Posted by henson1855 (Post 1841791)
The original sold at Heritage, so it was a thing at least once.
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515


Mr. Zipper 01-03-2019 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigdaddy (Post 1841813)
Not sure if you were implying it or not, but those two balls are not the same. Note the 'Finnis'?? at the bottom of the Heritage ball; not present on the OPs picture.

Other than that, the signature and inscriptions appear as if they may be identical. (The OP pic is a bit too small to be certain.)

I suspect the OP ball may be a reproduction created using the high res image from Heritage.

Bigdaddy 01-03-2019 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper (Post 1841984)
I suspect the OP ball may be a reproduction created using the high res image from Heritage.

+1

Huysmans 01-03-2019 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SetBuilder (Post 1841796)
Those aren't stats. It's the teams he played for along with the years. It wasn't unheard of for players to do this, but not all that common either. I've seen other examples from players like Walter Johnson and Joe Kelley, to name a few...

Exactly.
Listing teams and years of tenure when signing wasn't unheard of, even then. I can remember seeing examples that have sold from 19th century players like Fred Goldsmith and Jack Glasscock.

Steve D 01-03-2019 02:12 PM

They're definitely different balls.

Look at the number of stitches on the ball. Counting the stitch at the top of the "T", around to the left, and to the stitch at the bottom of the "A" in "Athletics", there are 14 stitches on the Heritage ball, while there are 17 stitches on the ball in this thread's original post.

Also, the Heritage ball is a Harridge, whlle the OP ball is a Cronin.

Steve


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