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clydepepper 12-19-2017 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1730568)
Who is this Cemens of whom you speak?


Sarie - my tipeng has nevurr bin the besst

rats60 12-19-2017 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 1730691)
+1

Too many marginal players in, and Bonds and Clemens were among the greatest players ever. They've already been punished by having to wait at least ten years. Lifetime ban is too harsh.
Joe Jackson has been waiting 82 years. They haven't waited long enough in my opinion.

HRBAKER 12-19-2017 06:17 PM
2 No's for me

They chose their fate

barrysloate 12-20-2017 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1731035)
Joe Jackson has been waiting 82 years. They haven't waited long enough in my opinion.
Joe Jackson's transgression was much worse. He participated in a plot to throw the World Series to gamblers. No comparison...although I would probably vote for Joe to get in.

bnorth 12-20-2017 06:02 AM
Bonds-yes
Clemens-YES

Neither cheater more than whoever your favorite player is.:D

HRBAKER 12-20-2017 06:44 AM
That's the easiest way to excuse lying and cheating, assume or assert that everyone did it.

Leon 12-20-2017 07:05 AM
no

no

vintagetoppsguy 12-20-2017 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1731152)
That's the easiest way to excuse lying and cheating, assume or assert that everyone did it.
Well, aren't you assuming that Clemens did it? As far as I know (and correct me if I'm wrong), he never failed a test.

steve B 12-20-2017 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1731166)
Well, aren't you assuming that Clemens did it? As far as I know (and correct me if I'm wrong), he never failed a test.
Neither did Lance Armstrong.....Or at least he never failed any after the Nike people talked to the UCI people.

Peter_Spaeth 12-20-2017 09:44 AM
It's the same old tired debate, but the same people who get all sanctimonious about roids still revere guys who popped amphetamines like Aaron and Mays.


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