Very cool. I love press used photos.

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Got these a few weeks ago thanks to GFG, the tougher orientations of each subject. My last pickups for the year. Moran is my favorite, as Benny Kaufman didn't make the classic T sets I love.

I'm not a boxing collector, but my stepmom gave me some of her old keepsakes, and this cool piece was in there.

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That's a fun piece!

Hi all!

Looking for very early professional wrestling items from before pro wrestling became more entertainment than sport. Think Frank Gotch, Farmer Burns, etc.

Looking for cabinets, postcards, etc. from the 1800s through early 1900s.

jeff

Cool posters. Some great names. I’ve seen a few a those guys live and they are great especially Andre the Giant. Wrestling isn’t what it used to be. We really miss having exciting current wrestlers.


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Cool posters. Some great names. I’ve seen a few a those guys live and they are great especially Andre the Giant. Wrestling isn’t what it used to be. We really miss having exciting current wrestlers.


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Big Bob Duncum snd Johnny Rodz sound like porn names.

There's a very fine line between picking your porn name and your wrestling name.

I was supposed to be done for the year but I was a naughty boy and saw an advantageous opportunity to pick up a batch of Tolstoi's at a price that nets me 1 I need, will let me send a couple gratis to pals, and then sell the rest to make what I paid back and make my Hatranft free.

Hartranft is the score, as he puts me at 49 out of the 50 possible Tolstoi cards in hand. More importantly, he also puts me at 631/632 of the total possible cards for a true T218 master set; I was fortunate to manage to pick up the absolute toughest combinations which are actually in the Mecca run before the deep stretch of the Tolstoi run while I was building the checklist and figuring out what I was actually chasing. I only need a Jack Goodman Tolstoi back to finish this thing. Anyone want to trade a Jack Goodman for 2 Tolstoi's, in their favor? Send over your wantlists if you are collecting Tolstoi backs, most of the dupes will be for trade/sale/etc.

Any idea how rare the 1928 James Braddock / graham double sided exhibit is?

I believe the 1925 champion exhibits Dempsey is pretty scarce as well but maybe probably not quite as much…

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Stretching the definition of a recent pick-up, but I bought these months ago and had COMC finally ship them not too long ago and finally got around to sorting everything into my collection. When I see old boxing for .50 to $1, I tend to just buy it even if I don't know much of anything about it, that's a fun price to just accumulate old stuff of champions.

LOL, nice Ingemar's.

Thanks to about a 5 year span in Sweden and some of it's neighboring countries, and taking Muhammad Ali and modern rainbow variations out of the mix...Ingemar Johansson probably had more different cards produced of him than any other boxer in the hobby.

Floyd Patterson might be in 2nd place...just because of his affiliation with Johansson.

After seeing just how many different Ingemar photos there are from just Dutch Gum alone, I am not surprised to learn this lol

And an 1889 N269 card from Lorillard's, with the Ballin & Liebler credit that I got this week. Personally, I think Mr. Pendergast's sweet mustache is more impressive than any won/loss record in the boxing ring.

Yeah, the guys in that era had some serious face furniture. You could do a collection of them. Actually I did...

John C Heenan:

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Paddy Ryan:

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Joe Goss:

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George Godfrey:

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The Great John L.

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Richard K. Fox:

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IMHO Goss wins that contest. I don't even know how you eat with a crumb catcher like that over your mouth.

Now those are some 'staches. It's just not the same these days when our champions don't have extravagant facial hair

Broke my normal pattern to win these three. I don't care about slabs and bust free anything that isn't in my trade bait box, so I usually don't win anything graded over a 3. The silvers are my favorite set, and I'm building a couple sets of it, one as nice as I can get and one as beater as I can get (which is a ton of fun to do and incredibly cheap).

This set was listed last year, I won the James J. Corbett and since then the others have slowly sold. The final ones were put up at auction instead of BIN's, I put in what I thought of as lowball bids on everything, under the previously sold cards by a fair bit. Erne was $103, Carney $126, Choyinski $271. I thought I might get Erne because the card is obviously short.

This set has sequentially serialized PSA slabs (James J. Corbett's is different) and has been the registry set for a long time. I've assumed the cards came from a find of 24 cards (there was no Donovan in this set), presumably from a scrapbook based on some of the backs, but I don't know. Some size variance is normal in T220 silver; I don't fully understand why (because of the large margins on the sheet above and below the cards), but naturally short top/bottom cards tend to be those in the top row, especially Jordan. This Erne, in hand, is very short. Erne is also a top row card (the others are Frayne, Burke, and the James J. Corbett extreme SP rarity) and frequently found short top/bottom, but this is a bit extreme of a variance and it gives me some doubts this collection is unaltered.

I figured I'd throw them into my trade bait bin if I won anything, but I might crack them all out for my set now as I am not confident these are unaltered, it is very difficult to examine them properly without being able to directly handle, and I do not believe 2 of them to be accurate grades. I tend to find most cards graded in this set to be 1-2 grades inflated, they are very very generous on this issue and forgiving of corner damage, slight missing paper at corners, and even tiny corner creases. I would call my set mostly EX/EX-MT now, with a couple VG/EX's the graders would call 5-6 and a VG Donovan. The Choyinski here is the closest to an actual 7 if unaltered. They are still very nice condition and would go well in my main set of silvers.

Owen Moran here makes for 42 out of the 50 Red Sun cards down. Realistically, I am only going to be able to go for a set of the 46 white boys. T226 probably has one of the more unusual sheet layouts, but I have made no success in deducing how this all worked at a production level.

Narrows my realistic want list down to just Jem Driscoll, Stanley Ketchell, Bert Keyes, and Harry Stone. I would like to eventually pick up a baseball type card just to go with the set.

And some more silvers. They will be cracked out shortly, and I knew the condition when I bought them, but the Burke has got to be one of the worst 4's I have seen in awhile from a 'reputable' grader. The top right corner is so dented that is missing a small piece of it. There is a deep creasing indent in all four sides, 1 of which is severe on the back. Probably why I got it for only $29

This one ran $635, which is a rather high price for a T219 Johnson in Good grade and I was hoping to get for a bit less. The green backs are somewhere in the vicinity of 3-5x tougher than the black backs though, and this puts me at 49/50 on them. I only need Willie Lewis with the Honest Long cut Green back and Jack Sullivan with a Miners Extra back before I am down to only some of the Red Cross cards to go. That's going to take decades to finish this 200 card master set....

Note that the T219 adds in his victory over Jeffries into the fight record. A lot of the cards have slight amendments to the text to shorten them a little bit, but only Jeffries and Johnson have additional information added to their cards from the source T218 write-ups. The Joe Jeannette oddly follows the Hassan 30 no series notation back, not the later corrected print runs even though the T219 is 8+ months later in the timeframe.

Added 2 Coburn's to compete for my beater set I'm building alongside a very nice condition set, the PSA noting an imaginary variation and the GAI not noting the silver. The 1.5 seems awfully generous with those huge creases, the PSA 1 has a tear rather than a crease. I think the GAI is the one for my beater set.

It's been awhile since I've had a GAI slab to crack to open. I'm not a grading fan, but it seems to me the best holders ended up losing the grading battles of the 2000's. GAI took the black frame inserts people like with SGC and added the handy feature where the slip wraps around the top, and tells you the card, set and grade on top of the holder as well as the front, so that in a stack you can quickly pull a specific card out. Kind of surprised nobody later copied this idea. Beckett has the cases built like a tank for more protection, and more detailed grading, but has faded from their initial gains and is a smaller player even in modern now.

Had to get this one to go with the unique thin copy of the Muldoon I got last month.

My new favorite boxing card

That's a beauty. Wish PSA would have treated as such when they picked out the holder for it.

Truth. One of the few times I favor SGC’s holder.

Got $8500 sitting around? You can have the Red Cross too.

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Do I have it sitting around? Yes!

Do I want to spend that much on a single boxing card? Yikes! But maybe! I've come close to that before.

Is this that boxing card? Probably not!

I don't think any of the batch will sell at those prices, but what do I know. I was interested enough to sign up for the early notice on it three years ago and still want it. Who knows which of us will end up with it. I doubt I will, the problem for me is the Johnson only has value to me as a set builder rather than an investment or Jack Johnson piece. It's the last T218/T219/C52 family Johnson I need for the master run. I'm confident David will get a very strong price for it

On the complete opposite end of the price spectrum, when I see the poster and album cuts cheap I'm grabbing them to go alongside my Ginter boxing set. These two are from the advertising poster. I still need a Jimmy Carroll N28 card to finish the N28/N29's, one will come along soon enough.

Smith was a British champion, Lannon a gatekeeper type. Both were not the scientific type of pugilist, Lannon is probably most known for being one of Sullivan's more frequent partners for staged exhibitions than for any of his real fights.

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Had a good night in Heritage...

Got a fresh batch of tough C52's, including a boxer and one card I needed, #83 Hoppe. Up to 95 out of the 109 cards for my set, with a large number of duplicates to trade.

An upgrade for once, even if it's still creased.

Picked these up recently, Wilson should be a welcome downgrade for my beater set. I don't really see why Wilson and Beecher wouldn't qualify for a number grade, but they'll be cracked out anyways. These slabs are clearly going to damage the cards even more as there is nothing holding them in position and even light handling bounces the card up and down into the top and bottom bars.

If I might mix brands, I don't know why the submitter even bothers to get a bulls**t grade from a horses***t grading service in the first place.

Picked up these two bout sheets/fight announcements a little while back. Likely unique in their survival (or close to it). They weren't giveaways, but nobody else seemed to have an interest in bidding on them.

No real superstars, but some Champions (self-described and otherwise), and lots of boxers who featured in tobacco sets of the day.

Found the name "Tug Collins" interesting. Wonder if that might have been Tug Wilson, who may have been in the area during that time period, and whose actual given name was "John Collins".

Also: "J. Carrol". Not sure if that's the "Jimmy Carroll" from the N28 A&G Set, or another Jimmy Carroll of that time period.

Looks live it is indeed Jimmy Carroll of the A&G set. Cyber Boxing Zone has that Jimmy Carroll fighting a J.H. O'Neal on October 31st, lining up perfectly. http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/carroll-jimmy.htm

Tug Collins I can't find a photo of. His Boxrec lists only 3 fights, against Duffy twice and Havlin. That's awfully high competition for a guy who never did anything else. https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/64261. Wilson was in the US in 1882, returned to England to fight Mitchell in 1883, but was back in the US again in 1886 at the latest. I suspect this guy might be Tug Wilson.

Those are awesome pieces, Dave

Thanks Greg. My anti-malware on my desktop is deathly afraid of Cyberboxingzone, so I wasn’t able to access Jimmy Carroll’s page there.

Was able to get it through your link on my phone though, so that pretty much settles it. I found it very interesting that Carroll had such a close association with George LaBlanche, who was also on that card.

Cyberboxingzone is great for a lot of fighters from that era and earlier, as they cover a lot of ground that Boxrec doesn’t recognize.They’re also great for tracking exhibition bouts that Boxrec doesn’t list for both newer and older era fighters.

Was bummed I couldn’t access them, and too paranoid of malware to make an exception for it in my program.

Tug was always a bit of an enigma, so wouldn’t be surprised if he was using his other name on occasion, for whatever reason.