The ultimate trade up
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Ok so I am going to try something out. I am attempting to trade up to a 52 Topps Mantle by years end. I always watched that show and wanted to try it out, and after trading at the Hofstra show the other day it gave me this idea. I am offering this beautiful T-205 WOJO graded SGC 40. Beautiful card. I will take the best trade offered to me. Obviously the WOJO is a easy sell, for whoever gets it. Let's make a deal and watch me get this MANTLE! PM ME or even put offers here so people can follow along. https://sportscardalbum.com/c/vogr3ea2.jpg https://sportscardalbum.com/c/sp1z3027.jpg PHASE I: Started with a Walter Johnson T-205 SGC 4 ($424.00) Turned it into...... T206 Bender, no trees, psa 4 HOF SOLD $150 T206 McGraw, at hip, psa 3 HOF SOLD $110 T206 McGraw, port w/cap psa 2 HOF SOLD $110 T206 Chase, pink, psa3 SOLD $110 T206 McGraw, finger air, psa2 HOF TRADED T206 Kelly, psa3 HOF TRADED T206 Pelty, vert, pas 4.5 SOLD $60 T206 McEvlveen, big 4 SOLD $25 1962 topps Mays AS card RAW NM SOLD $20 TRADED T206 Bender, no trees, psa 4 HOF For $150 T-206 Rube Marquard SOLD $33 Honus Wagner Original Photo SOLD $55 $238 Total. TRADED T206 McGraw, finger air, psa2 HOF TRADED T206 Kelly, psa3 HOF TRADED Plus $15.00 FOR T206 Tenney Hindu Back SGC 10 TRADED TRADED T206 Tenney Hindu Back SGC 10 TRADED FOR 1964 Topps Mickey Mantle BVG 5 SOLD $120 1962 Topps Switch Hitter Mantle PSA 5 SOLD $30 1965 Topps Steve Carlton RC SGC 60 SOLD $88 So far shipping and fees have run me $54.58, leaving me with $842.42 and the following cards left for sale or trade. After Phase one I am +$418.42 PHASE II 1933 Sport Kings Babe Ruth SGC 10 Purchased this card for $714.00 Still have $128.42 cash to play with. https://sportscardalbum.com/c/x3n8eu62.jpg https://sportscardalbum.com/c/8w6mk3oi.jpg Traded for: T206 Burch Factory 42 PSA A SOLD $80 T206 Pfeister Factory 42 SGC A TRADED T206 McIntyre Sweet Caporal SOLD $22 T206 Burch Piedmont 150 SOLD $30 T206 Bresnahan Piedmont 350 SOLD $60 T206 Donovan Sweet Caporal SOLD $22 T206 Jones Piedmont 350 SOLD $33 T206 Bush Piedmont 350 SOLD $22 T206 Schmidt Piedmont 150 SOLD $22 T206 Isbell Piedmont 150 DOUBLE NAME SOLD $27 T206 Collins Sweet Caporal SOLD $50 T206 Foster OLD MILL SOUTHERN LEAGUE SOLD $50 T206 Helm OLD MILL SOUTHERN LEAGUE SOLD $60 T206 Paige OLD MILL SOUTHERN LEAGUE SOLD $51 T206 Crawford El Principe De Gales TRADED/SOLD T206 Shaughnessy Piedmont 350 TRADED/SOLD T206 Gutheen Piedmont 350 TRADED/SOLD T206 Mullin Sweet Caporal TRADED/SOLD T206 Summers Piedmont 350 TRADED/SOLD T206 O'Leary Piedmont 350 TRADED/SOLD T206 Killian Piedmont 350 TRADED/SOLD TRADED T206 Shaughnessy Piedmont 350 TRADED/SOLD T206 Gutheen Piedmont 350 TRADED/SOLD T206 Mullin Sweet Caporal TRADED/SOLD T206 Summers Piedmont 350 TRADED/SOLD T206 O'Leary Piedmont 350 TRADED/SOLD T206 Killian Piedmont 350 TRADED/SOLD T206 Crawford El Principe De Gales TRADED/SOLD for T206 Shaughnessy (lesser grade)SOLD $90 T206 Gutheen (lesser grade) SOLD $33 T206 Mullin (lesser grade) SOLD $33 T206 Summers (lesser grade) SOLD $33 T206 O'Leary (lesser grade) SOLD $14 T206 Killian (lesser grade) SOLD PLUS $200.00 TRADED T206 Pfeister Factory 42 SGC A For 1952 Topps Sima PSA 7 NM SOLD $45 1952 Topps Bill Kennedy PSA 7 NM SOLD $50 So far shipping and fees have run me $74.58, leaving me with $1007 + 128.42 (money never spent) After Phase two I am +$711.42 PHASE III T206 Sweet Caporal 350-460/30 Ty Cobb Portrait $895 still have $240.42 (money never spent) https://sportscardalbum.com/c/5ttx0vij.JPG https://sportscardalbum.com/c/uw9ao8k9.JPG Traded For: 1954 Bowman Complete Set VG+/EX with PSA 4 Mantle (All Photos Can Be Seen On Posts #401-#404) So far shipping and fees have run me $84.58, leaving me with $230.42 (money never spent) and the 1954 Bowman Set. After Phase three I am +$701.42 PHASE IV 1954 Bowman Complete Set VG+/EX with PSA 4 Mantle (All Photos Can Be Seen On Posts #401-#404) AND $230.42 https://sportscardalbum.com/c/x464s6jx.JPG SOLD SET FOR $950. $950 + $230.42 = $1180.42 Looking to buy the next card. |
This thread would generally go in the BST section. Since it's kind of different let's let it be here this time. If anyone doesn't like it please contact management for a full refund of your membership dues :). Please though, this isn't an open invitation to sell on the front page. You will be beaten severely, above the neck, with a wet noodle if you do. Good luck in the Trade-Up!! (And if this thing gets out of hand it can easily be moved at any time.)
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This requires other people to trade down and lose value. I don't like losing money. Maybe there are others that don't mind or don't have an eye on it.
I am curious to see where this goes. |
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Even if someone would rather have a Wojo than what they currently have and not want to spend the money to get one. I am not picky so I will take basically anything worth more :) |
This goal will be tough to achieve making trades with people on Net54.
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Kind of thread that could lead to someone quitting the board forever. Just sayin'.
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It would be easier if you did away with the 1:1 idea. You should trade one card for groups of cards and try to spread out some profit. Nobody is willing to take a hit on one card, but someone might not mind losing $ on a group of unimportant cards if they are getting one great card in return.
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I remember a few years ago someone on the CU board did a similar thing. I don't recall exactly how far they got, but I believe they made a pretty good attempt. The key I think would be to not limit what you'll take and to be open to any type of offer. I think as you get further along it will get more difficult, but in the end, I think you might be surprised. Besides, that's a nice Johnson to start from!
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It's already been tried on one of the other boards
Best of luck |
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The person on CU was able to get their Mantle. |
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Maybe just sell, er, trade the W. Johnson for cash. Trade some more stuff for cash. Then finally trade the cash for the card you want.
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I remember a few years ago another guy over on BO did a similar thing but don't remember what his goal was. He detailed every transaction down to the penny. It took a very long time but he made it and it was a great thread to fallow. From what I remember of that thread he made a lot of deals that he traded a high end card for several lower end cards that had a much higher value. |
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The only thing about that attempt is I believe he and a buddy actually traveled the country, doing deals in person and such. They brought cards with them to sell to cover expenses, and other cards to sell to build towards their ultimate goal - I as well don't remember what their goal was. Stephen, good luck. It can be done, but I would refrain from using polarizing statements such as "I am not picky in what I want in return. Just something I can trade that is worth more than what I am offering here." |
A really neat thread this will be to follow... Best of luck!
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Saying that someone's card is harder to sell so they will do a deal with you but its worth more money than your card does not make sense. The card either is or isnt more valuable in your mind. Anyway, i think you should be buying a particular LOT (there were several low grade T206 Lots recently for example ) at an auction and then spending the time selling the cards of individually and you can document the process. You would be putting in sweat equity to earn a potential profit but at least its feasible to keep making money that way and to reach your ultimate goal.. |
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I respectfully disagree. If someone wants the card, and they have somehing they don't want and isn't as desirable, I believe they would rather trade down to what they want than wait for a sale on that item that may take a year. |
It's a lot easier to do what you are saying.. buy and sell and then buy what I want. That's what everyone does. I am trying to only trade. Dealing with only the cards I'm dealt. That is more entertaining and a. Ore difficult task imo
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If someone wants to downgrade a card for your card then they will want you to come up with cash to make up the difference unless its just charity. |
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It's not charity. There is no such thing as a "fair trade" sure in a vacuum things can be fair but with the every changing market what's fair today may not be to Oreos. That being said, I'm not looking for ANY charity. If someone is willing to make a deal they are doing it because they believe it meets their needs too. Obviously you would not be a good partner for what I am trying to achieve. I know if I had a card with 10 and I didn't want it, and someone had a card worth 8... of my card wasn't as liquid, I'd have no problem making a swap knowing I got rid of a tough sell and got what I want. Not trying to convince you. There's no one sayi we have to trade. |
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You did say you wanted a card that is 'worth more' |
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Psa 10 of a hi number with a small small market which may not sell well at auction. It to the right buyer is a 900 dollar card. But that buyer may not come for a year. Opportunity cost with what will even the trade out. |
A Problem Solver
1) Start with a 69 Mantle
Trade for a 68 Mantle Then trade for a 67 Mantle .....................................' then trade for a 53 Mantle and finally trade for a 52 Mantle. 2) Start a thread requesting 17 volunteers to participate in Step 1) 3) Complete 17 trades. Problem solved. I will accept your T205 WaJo in exchange for this advice.:eek: |
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Damn I wanted this to be fun but a few people who have already posted on here rain on most of my threads. It's okay. Offer up. Not looking for charity. If you want the card and wanna unload something it'll be easy. Here's an example. Yesterday at the show . I had a binder of 80 low grade star cards with a trade in value of maybe 75. Traded 5 cards for a 54 ex oc billly Martin. Then traded the Martin and rest of the binder for a 66 mantle VG raw (he had triples) Then traded that mantle for a 55 banks raw ex and 66 Koufax raw ex (he needed a mantle) Then finally traded that for a psa 5 maris RC. (He had 2) Trades don't have to be fair if they make sense. That's my point. |
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I hate to be "that guy" but isn't it WaJo? And that is a really pretty WaJo or WoJo depending on the answer to this. Good luck on the 52 Mantle quest. I need one for my set.............
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1) I am sure you didn't go to each person telling them you are willing to trade for anything as long as it was "Just something I can trade that is worth more than what I am offering here." 2) You worked in quantities as many people suggested over attempting a 1:1 trade. There are several times I have traded and was the benefactor of the better end, but I didn't go into it telling the other person that was my objective and they should keep that in mind before attempting the trade. Also I am sure I have been on the other side where I left something on the table, but again that other person didn't leave me feeling like I got the worse end of the deal. |
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lol I actually did. I was forth coming. I said hey I have this mantle I will take whatever you want to get rid of that you don't think you can move easily as long as it's worth more than this mantle. Dealers actually said they liked the fact I wasn't wasting their time and we worked together to find a card they didn't mind getting rid of. Trade don't have to be fair if they make sense. |
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It's like ok you need steals and I need homers. I'll trade you my (let's say this was 2010) Jose Reyes for your pujols. They are always like ok but you need to throw in some power. lol a trade will never be 100% equal. |
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Stephen - I have to disagree with the boss man on this one...IMO, it belongs on BST...after all, the 'T' stands for trade. . |
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Let's make a trade. I'm ready and this WOJO can be yours. It takes 2 to trade. Make a offer in here or PM and let the story begin
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2 questions - What do you value the WoJo at? I think most of us would need to know the starting point before making an offer. Are you only open to trading for other cards or what else? I mean, autographs, memorabilia, which sports etc.? I'd be curious to see what is acceptable in trade.
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I value wojo at 700 in trade. It's a strong price but I have 7 watchers on eBay at 700 so I think it's not far fetched in trade. I'm open to anything really. even a large lot of it was worth my time. Even 3-4 200-250 cards. I'm not picky. I want everyone to be happy in the deal
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I've got a PSA 1 1952 Topps Mantle that I would be willing to trade if you some how end up with a 1952 Topps Mantle in PSA 2 or better and decide you then want to start trading in the opposite direction.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/SILVER-PITCH...0AAOSw-FZXj-au Here is a Babe Ruth cut auto for sale at $95,000 with 158 people watching: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Babe-Ruth-20...QAAOSwa81XRml9 |
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I get everyones point, but think many of us are missing Stephens point.
I don't have anything in this price range that I want to trade, but a lot of cards I have were bought in ...............Lets just say a long time ago when they were cheap. If I had something I just wasn't really into anymore that was worth maybe a little bit more but I'd paid a lot less, and had decided to collect T205s this might be a pretty good deal. Whether that person is here or not is the question, and I suppose we'll see. I will say that I've done a few trades here for more modern stuff and have tried to give more than I got, with little success. Most of the guys I've traded with are just too generous. Or perhaps want the brownie points with their wives for clearing out some cards more than I do. :) (I also tend to have a smaller pile of extras, which doesn't help at times.) Steve B |
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Ok, I'm first up. I will offer the following:
Full size Riddell Philadelphia Eagles football helmet signed by Donovan McNabb ($250). Hard cover books signed by: Kareen Abdul Jabbar ($50), Tommy Lasorda ($50), Walt Frazier ($40), Joe Garagiola ($30), Whitey Herzog ($40) & Billy Martin ($100). 1957 Topps 42 card lot (average vg cond.) 1/2 stars-1/2 commons ($150). 1977 New York Yankees World Series Press Pin ($100). Pete Rose and Ron Santo single signed baseballs ($60). 1982 Cracker Jack Old Timers Game windbreaker worn on field, owned and signed by Lefty Gomez. ($100). First Day Cover signed by Gerald Ford ($50). 1956 Topps pin of Dale Long ($20). I tried to be as diverse as possible in the trade offer. Prices in parenthesis are what I feel are fair values. I have offered over $1000 worth of items for the T205 WaJo. Please let me know if you have any interest. I don't have cards per se for trade but I don have alot of autographs (pictures, cards, memorabilia) and programs, press pins etc. available. Let's see if we can work something out. Tony |
This just made me smile. Email send tony. Let's go!
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Leon, I know I am a grumpy old man, but this thread is worst case of group mass mental masturbation I have ever seen and does not belong on Net 54. Your call.
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That's just mean lol |
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