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Gradedcardman 11-07-2016 10:22 AM

T206 folks, lets see some Lenox Beauties, Black and Brown Welcome !!
 
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I'll start with the 2 from my collection so you can see a little of the color variance:

rats60 11-07-2016 11:00 AM

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...mage%20497.jpg

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Sean 11-07-2016 11:28 AM

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Gradedcardman 11-07-2016 11:29 AM

Classic
 
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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1600328)

The Merkle is such a classic pose !!

Sean 11-07-2016 11:33 AM

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Sean 11-07-2016 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gradedcardman (Post 1600329)
The Merkle is such a classic pose !!

I agree.I'm sorry that I don't have better scans. In person you can tell the difference between black and brown, but it's harder on a computer.

DerekMichael 11-07-2016 06:02 PM

Those are some seriously amazing cards guys. Thank you for posting.

Here are some of the Lenox backs I have owned over the years:

http://t206society.com/product-category/lenox/

Only the McGraw remains in my collection, however I am very happy to have recently acquired a quality Brown Lenox (my first ever Brown) in the recent Robert Edward Auctions. I do not have scans as of yet but will post them soon.

Great stuff guys. Thank you very much for sharing. I hope this turns into a loooooong thread :)

Derek

Jobu 11-07-2016 06:38 PM

I've never owned a Lenox but I am now on a quest to pick something up that is a must have for Sean. Great card amigo! (And great cards all around)

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tedzan 11-07-2016 06:51 PM

Lenox
 
This is my favorite one since it is the 1st LENOX which I acquired in 1987. Paid only $15 for it at the HOF weekend Show in Cooperstown.

Will post a few more LENOX cards in subsequent posts.


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...Xchance75x.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...chance75xb.jpg


TED Z
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tedzan 11-08-2016 12:40 PM

:)....OK folks, here is a "Lenox Beauty"....:)


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ZITbacks50.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...TurkUzit50.jpg


TED Z
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Gradedcardman 11-08-2016 02:50 PM

Very Nice
 
Nice stuff guys...WOW if that's all this forum has to offer then I may need to grab some more of these !!

tedzan 11-08-2016 03:09 PM

Only 3 graded by SGC and this one of mine is the highest.

I cannot get the PSA data on Needham from their new POP report system ? ?



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...amLENOXx50.jpg.http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...psc8c09003.jpg



TED Z
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tab 11-08-2016 04:10 PM

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Gradedcardman 11-08-2016 06:54 PM

Psa
 
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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1600660)
Only 3 graded by SGC and this one of mine is the highest.

I cannot get the PSA data on Needham from their new POP report system ? ?



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...amLENOXx50.jpg.http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...psc8c09003.jpg



TED Z
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5 by PSA with 2- 4's

Sean 11-08-2016 07:37 PM

Hey Adam, when did you get that Schlei /Brown graded? I know that now PSA lists them as black or brown. I got Merkle graded in 2009, long before PSA specified colors.

Gradedcardman 11-08-2016 08:49 PM

Brown
 
If my memory serves I am guessing about the same time as yours in 2009.

Eggoman 11-09-2016 06:41 AM

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Sorry to be late to the party - This Lenox Black Beauty is my only one...

Gradedcardman 11-09-2016 02:14 PM

A beauty...
 
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Originally Posted by Eggoman (Post 1600741)
Sorry to be late to the party - This Lenox Black Beauty is my only one...


That Stovall is awesome !!

ValKehl 11-09-2016 05:57 PM

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This one is a wreck, but at least it's a WaJo!

tedzan 11-09-2016 06:21 PM

Here's the list of the known black LENOX cards. Let's see some more of these rare T206's.


http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...psc8c09003.jpg


To date....a total of 77 subjects have been confirmed. The series breakdown is as follows......

350/460 Series......43 confirmed Black LENOX cards

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Crawford (bat)
Davis (A's)
Donlin (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Street (catching)
White (pitching)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Willis (throwing)
Wiltse (throwing)
CYoung (glove)



460-only Series....34 confirmed Black LENOX cards (complete)

Abbaticcio (blue sleeve)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (arms over head)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms over head)
Camnitz (arms side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Doyle (portrait)
Frill
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands)
Lake (ball-St Louis)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Schaefer (Washington)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Schulte (back view)
Seymour (portrait)
Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tinker (bat on)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


TED Z
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atx840 11-10-2016 01:26 PM

Nice browns everyone.

Thanks to Ted Z for trading me this guy :D

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7377/1...40e50aa1_b.jpg

charlietheexterminator 11-10-2016 03:40 PM

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Here are a few I picked up in October, adding to my Black Lenox set.

Sean 11-10-2016 04:26 PM

Hey Chuck, great Lenox group. How many Lenox do you currently own?

Gradedcardman 11-10-2016 05:53 PM

Impressive
 
Chuck, awesome stuff !!

tedzan 11-10-2016 07:01 PM

Lenox
 
Early in 1911, American Lithographic (ALC) started producing their new gold-bordered series of cards with their very colorful and ornate Military Men (T80) cards
being one of their first. Shown here are the Tobacco brands** associated with these cards. Simultaneously, ALC was printing LENOX and UZIT T206's.

Gleaned from an ALC ledger record (dated Feb 1911) is information indicating that ALC was notifying Factory #30 (NYC) that they should insert a T80 card with
a T206 card in LENOX cigarette packs at the Factory......so, each cigarette pack contained a T80 and a T206.

Spring of 1911, T206 production had come to an end. I'm pretty sure that this timeline explains why T206 cards with LENOX and UZIT backs were short-printed.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...haseLENOXb.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Tolstoi25b.jpg
.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ChaseLENOX.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...HiAdjGen25.jpg




** Note....The T80 cards were also printed with OLD MILL backs. These OLD MILL T80 cards are extremely rare.


TED Z
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Gradedcardman 11-12-2016 06:54 AM

Not ready to see this one fade away
 
Bump for more...

MR RAREBACK 11-12-2016 12:27 PM

Lenox backs
 
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tedzan 11-14-2016 06:20 PM

Here's one more Chase (excuse the fuzzy scan, as it is an old one)
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...seLENOX50x.jpghttp://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...4zaz/lenox.jpg


TED Z
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Leon 11-17-2016 01:33 PM

It is still hard for me to tell the brown Lenox from the regular ones. Then again my visual recognition isn't the best with those colors. :eek: Thanks to those who have shown the Lenox in this thread...

DerekMichael 11-20-2016 01:32 PM

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This is one which was recently added to the collection. My first (and likely only) Brown Lenox.

When I laid this card out alongside others for comparison the variation in color was very apparent. The Brown Lenox mirrors a Broad Leaf in color, while the Black Lenox I used matches the color of a Carolina Brights back. I am not sure if this holds up every time, but in this instance the difference appears to be quite distinct.

Derek

Gradedcardman 11-20-2016 03:35 PM

Lake
 
The Lake is a beauty !!

mrvster 11-29-2016 09:23 AM

Great thread
 
of one of my favorite backs! :eek:

iowadoc77 11-30-2016 07:47 PM

Got these
 
Like the Lenox backs!

Wilted portrait with partial name at top

[IMG]https://sportscardalbum.com/c/5p5382k4.jpeg?0[/IMG]

[IMG]https://sportscardalbum.com/c/hdfs512n.jpeg?0[/IMG]

Mcgraw portrait with cap- my favorite T206 pose

[IMG]https://sportscardalbum.com/c/x2vdpoi4.jpeg?0[/IMG]

[IMG]https://sportscardalbum.com/c/dila4181.jpeg?0[/IMG]

edjs 11-30-2016 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DerekMichael (Post 1603772)
This is one which was recently added to the collection. My first (and likely only) Brown Lenox.

When I laid this card out alongside others for comparison the variation in color was very apparent. The Brown Lenox mirrors a Broad Leaf in color, while the Black Lenox I used matches the color of a Carolina Brights back. I am not sure if this holds up every time, but in this instance the difference appears to be quite distinct.

Derek

Derek, which one is brown? It doesn't show on my iPad, and both flips say "black." I'm just curious, I know most people say it really shows in person.

DerekMichael 12-01-2016 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by edjs (Post 1606680)
Derek, which one is brown? It doesn't show on my iPad, and both flips say "black." I'm just curious, I know most people say it really shows in person.

Good morning Ed.

The Joe Lake "St. Louis, no ball" would be an example of a Brown Lenox. This is the first I have ever seen in person and the first thing I noticed was that a Brown Lenox matches a Broad Leaf in color and that a Black Lenox matches a Carolina Brights in color. It is quite distinct in person, and should you come to Southern California in the future I would love to share it with you.

The Schlei portraits in this thread appear to be very distinct as well with a blatant Brown VS Black.

My apologies, but which "flips" are you referring to in your question? I do not think I actually answered your question :o

Respectfully,

Derek


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