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MVSNYC 10-12-2010 11:41 PM

Holy Grail(s)
 
The 1927 Gehrig home jersey in Heritage got me thinking...obviously this is what most would consider a "Holy Grail" piece, and without question, is extremely special/important.

my question is...what is your guess of how many game used Gehrig Jerseys still exist today? while we are asking the question, let's extend it to Babe Ruth as well. how many Ruth game used Jerseys survive today?

p.s. i mean full jerseys, i'm not talking about the cut-up jersey cards.

perezfan 10-13-2010 12:35 AM

NM

perezfan 10-13-2010 12:36 AM

I would guess that 3 - 4 jerseys of both Ruth and Gehrig exist. I can't remember what's in the HOF, but remember Hunt's having a nice Gehrig a few years back. I also recall a Ruth Brooklyn Jersey in Mastro. Guess that one doesn't really count, but think I saw a Yankees one about a decade ago.

As I write this, I'm realizing that my answer has no basis in fact, whatsoever. The 3-4 jerseys is nothing more than an educated guess. Eager to hear what others think... I imagine that David A, Jacksons, King of Clout and other Yankee followers here will shed some perspective.

yanks12025 10-13-2010 08:48 AM

So who wants to buy me the Gehrig jersey.

canjond 10-13-2010 10:10 AM

I remember Ruth's Braves jersey coming up for auction a few years back. Also, I thought the Yankees had a Ruth and Gehrig jersey (this is not a Seinfeld reference!).

Shoeless Moe 10-13-2010 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canjond (Post 842399)
I remember Ruth's Braves jersey coming up for auction a few years back. Also, I thought the Yankees had a Ruth and Gehrig jersey (this is not a Seinfeld reference!).

I know Costanza got Strawberry juices all over the Ruth jersey. So if that one comes to market it should be easy to spot ; )

bbcard1 10-13-2010 01:56 PM

Just as concept, a holy grail I still believe is out there somewhere are the confession letters of the Black Sox. I think they were kept because they were such good possible blackmail material.

HexsHeroes 10-13-2010 08:45 PM

There's a 1934 Gehrig road jersey out there . . .
 
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I had the pleasure of holding it before the doors opened at a Thanksgiving weekend Plymouth Michigan card show in the late 1980's. Ten minutes later, Mr. Mint materialized, wisked the gentleman and his Gehrig jersey away. The doors soon opened, and Mr. Mint was finalizing his purchase.

The jersey may not have been mine to keep, but that moment certainly was.

Duluth Eskimo 10-13-2010 10:01 PM

You are talking about a Gehrig jersey "walking in" to a show and I find it hard to find any quality pieces walking in to a show nowadays. As Archie and Edith Bunker said, "Those were the days".

HexsHeroes 10-14-2010 06:32 PM

Ahhhh . . . those were the days
 
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My brother and I often arrived a couple of hours (or more) before the show would open on Friday morning. If we were not first and second in line, we were usually among the first five.

Anyways, to kill time, we'd chat with the other collectors in line with us, and check out what they had to sell, or inquire what they were looking to buy. And then the gentleman next to me carefully opened his crumpled brown grocery bag and gently pulled out the Gerhig jersey. He allowed me to hold the jersey, and enjoy the moment. It was all kind of hush-hush, since he didn't want too much attention. But I'd have to imagine the word passed quickly down the waiting line of show attendees. The gentleman realized he had something valuable, and began to feel alittle vulnerable standing in the hotel hallway with his prized item. I would have felt quite uncomfortable too.

At prior shows, Mr. Mint or one of his "boys" would often come out a half hour or so before the show opened, and inquire what folks in line had to sell. After the gentleman next to me briefly opened his bag to let the Mint-man's rep take a peek (the jersey didn't come out of the bag), the rep hustled back into the closed showroom. Soon, out bursts the Mr. Mint himself, and my newfound "buddy" was hustled past the closed doors. Soon after, the deal was done.

I have no idea what Mr. Mint paid for that jersey, but it did appear thereafter in one (or two) of his SCD ads promoting the vast amounts of cash he recently spent, and the noteworthy collection/items he acquired. I'm just thrilled to say that "I was there".

Those were the days.

Big Six 10-16-2010 08:57 AM

I would love to know where the "loving cup" that Hal Chase is holding on his t206 is...

vintagechris 10-16-2010 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HexsHeroes (Post 842695)
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My brother and I often arrived a couple of hours (or more) before the show would open on Friday morning. If we were not first and second in line, we were usually among the first five.

Anyways, to kill time, we'd chat with the other collectors in line with us, and check out what they had to sell, or inquire what they were looking to buy. And then the gentleman next to me carefully opened his crumpled brown grocery bag and gently pulled out the Gerhig jersey. He allowed me to hold the jersey, and enjoy the moment. It was all kind of hush-hush, since he didn't want too much attention. But I'd have to imagine the word passed quickly down the waiting line of show attendees. The gentleman realized he had something valuable, and began to feel alittle vulnerable standing in the hotel hallway with his prized item. I would have felt quite uncomfortable too.

At prior shows, Mr. Mint or one of his "boys" would often come out a half hour or so before the show opened, and inquire what folks in line had to sell. After the gentleman next to me briefly opened his bag to let the Mint-man's rep take a peek (the jersey didn't come out of the bag), the rep hustled back into the closed showroom. Soon, out bursts the Mr. Mint himself, and my newfound "buddy" was hustled past the closed doors. Soon after, the deal was done.

I have no idea what Mr. Mint paid for that jersey, but it did appear thereafter in one (or two) of his SCD ads promoting the vast amounts of cash he recently spent, and the noteworthy collection/items he acquired. I'm just thrilled to say that "I was there".

Those were the days.

Did you ask how he had gotten the jersey?

thetruthisoutthere 10-16-2010 12:43 PM

Game Word Jersey Cards Ruth Gehrig
 
I remember years ago when the card companies started producing game-worn jersey cards of players like Babe Ruth Ruth and Lou Gehrig. I just can't picture in my head those uniforms being cut up and inserted into cards. And I don't begrudge anyone owning a Babe Ruth or Lou Gehrig jersey card, it's just sad that many of the few that existed were cut up.

HexsHeroes 10-16-2010 06:58 PM

How did he acquire that jersey ?
 
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I'm sure he did, but I just don't remember. Sorry.

Shoeless Moe 11-30-2016 03:39 PM

Just reviving this thread.....although it may have been another where we all talked about what great piece of memorabilia would you love to have, like the Called Shot Home Run Ball, or Shoeless Joe's confession, perhaps Ty Cobb's cleats from the famous picture, Conlon's actual camera, etc etc.


Well I finally found one, maybe not of these magnitude, but pretty neat, I'll be posting later tonight.

vintagesportscollector 11-30-2016 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 1606560)
Just reviving this thread.....although it may have been another where we all talked about what great piece of memorabilia would you love to have, like the Called Shot Home Run Ball, or Shoeless Joe's confession, perhaps Ty Cobb's cleats from the famous picture, Conlon's actual camera, etc etc.


Well I finally found one, maybe not of these magnitude, but pretty neat, I'll be posting later tonight.

..aren't you the master of suspense :p

Shoeless Moe 11-30-2016 06:41 PM

yes and no, I'm watching my kids tonight and it's non-stop, so no time to take pix, etc.....ugh

I can see it now - I put it on the table and the kool-aid spills right on it

vintagesportscollector 11-30-2016 06:56 PM

stop teasing! ;)...is it bigger than a bread box?

Bobsbats 12-08-2016 09:21 PM

Shoeless Ring
 
Holy Grail:

Years ago I was watching a TV show called "Flip this House" based in S.Carolina. In this episode they were moving Shoeless Joe Jackson's former home closer to the Minor League park and converting it to a museum. At the end of the episode, Shoeless Joe's grandson was there for the unveiling of the House/Museum. As he shakes the contractors hand, he slips off, and lets the contractor try on, Joe Jackson's 1917 World Series Ring !!!

Now, to me that is a "Holy Grail"...only one of those and it resides in the families possession. What is a guess on what that would bring? 2M ? More...

Side note: Josh Hamilton was in the episode, working on the job because he hadn't been reinstated yet.

Shoeless Moe 12-08-2016 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobsbats (Post 1608916)
Holy Grail:

Years ago I was watching a TV show called "Flip this House" based in S.Carolina. In this episode they were moving Shoeless Joe Jackson's former home closer to the Minor League park and converting it to a museum. At the end of the episode, Shoeless Joe's grandson was there for the unveiling of the House/Museum. As he shakes the contractors hand, he slips off, and lets the contractor try on, Joe Jackson's 1917 World Series Ring !!!

Now, to me that is a "Holy Grail"...only one of those and it resides in the families possession. What is a guess on what that would bring? 2M ? More...

Side note: Josh Hamilton was in the episode, working on the job because he hadn't been reinstated yet.

Wow!!!!!!! I'd guess 250K plus!


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