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nkesterke09 02-06-2018 10:40 AM

Fake or Real Mantle auto?
 
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Can anyone help with the authenticity of this Mantle piece? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks (If this is the wrong section I apologize)

-Nic

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joshuanip 02-06-2018 10:47 AM

I don’t know anything but the l higher than the t is unusual. Also there is a stop at the y, he usually does a more confident follow through. That said I know nothing.

Michael B 02-06-2018 10:58 AM

You will get responses if you repost this in the Autograph Forum which is a sub-forum of the Vintage Memorabilia Forum. I cannot offer an opinion as I do not know. Offering a somewhat opinion is useless.

nkesterke09 02-06-2018 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by joshuanip (Post 1745572)
I don’t know anything but the l higher than the t is unusual. Also there is a stop at the y, he usually does a more confident follow through. That said I know nothing.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Michael B (Post 1745580)
You will get responses if you repost this in the Autograph Forum which is a sub-forum of the Vintage Memorabilia Forum. I cannot offer an opinion as I do not know. Offering a somewhat opinion is useless.

Okay thanks for the help

Sophiedog 02-06-2018 12:16 PM

Looks like a good Mantle Sig

btcarfagno 02-06-2018 12:49 PM

Maybe it's the angle it's at, but I don't like it.

Duluth Eskimo 02-06-2018 01:48 PM

This is good

chalupacollects 02-06-2018 03:43 PM

That "Best Wishes" looks feminine...would the Mick write that like that?

yanksfan09 02-06-2018 04:24 PM

Yes, If you google "Best Wishes Mickey Mantle" under images, there's lots of examples that match up. This is a good earlier example imo.

btcarfagno 02-06-2018 05:14 PM

Last name looks too straight across for my liking. Could just be the angle, and I will defer to others who feel it is good.

Fuddjcal 02-06-2018 06:32 PM

looks perfecto to me...

nkesterke09 02-06-2018 06:45 PM

Thanks for the input so far.... looks like currently it’s a 50/50 split on who thinks it’s good vs fake. I thought it looked good compared to google images as well.

btcarfagno 02-06-2018 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nkesterke09 (Post 1745756)
Thanks for the input so far.... looks like currently it’s a 50/50 split on who thinks it’s good vs fake. I thought it looked good compared to google images as well.

Much better than 50/50. Very reputable people saying it's good.

njdunkin1 02-06-2018 08:08 PM

I think it's good, too.
Great piece!

Michael B 02-06-2018 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nkesterke09 (Post 1745756)
Thanks for the input so far.... looks like currently it’s a 50/50 split on who thinks it’s good vs fake. I thought it looked good compared to google images as well.

I would go with Chuck's opinion. He is very knowledgeable on Mantle, as are Chris, Shelley and Steve Z.

BillyCoxDodgers3B 02-06-2018 08:24 PM

While the scan is too low-res to be 100% definitive, this appears to be a facsimile of an authentic example. Also indicative of this is the "Best Wishes" without personalization, commonly found on promotional items. It was exceedingly rare for MM to sign a photo in this manner. You'll encounter the odd side-paneled ball, but photos from this era of signature style are practically nonexistent.

nkesterke09 02-07-2018 05:54 AM

Thanks all for the knowledgeable input and opinions. I appreciate it and will post more pictures if I can come to a deal with the seller.

Mr. Zipper 02-07-2018 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyCox3 (Post 1745791)
While the scan is too low-res to be 100% definitive, this appears to be a facsimile of an authentic example. Also indicative of this is the "Best Wishes" without personalization...

Agree. Authentic, but it may be a preprint.

khkco4bls 02-07-2018 08:13 AM

To me it's the real deal

jimjim 02-07-2018 08:50 AM

I like it

Fuddjcal 02-07-2018 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper (Post 1745846)
Agree. Authentic, but it may be a preprint.

double agree... It may be a reprint of an authentic signature

Kco 02-10-2018 06:38 PM

It’d good

nkesterke09 02-13-2018 05:48 AM

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I got this in the mail yesterday. It is a neat piece because it is dated the same year Mantle was inducted into the HOF. It also tells when and where he was and the seller also linked me to this article that mentions his appearance. I need to get a magnifier on this to see if it is live ink. It looks like it because I can see the heavy and light strokes of the auto.... just want to be sure. Does anyone know any info or have this piece not signed? Thanks

https://www.wvgazettemail.com/sports...fabf225ef.html



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Runscott 02-13-2018 02:39 PM

Here's another copy of the same premium, signature pre-printed on the image:

http://mickeymantle7.net/wp-content/.../manpre039.jpg

nkesterke09 02-13-2018 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1747721)
Here's another copy of the same premium, signature pre-printed on the image:

http://mickeymantle7.net/wp-content/.../manpre039.jpg

Was worried about this. Thanks.

Fuddjcal 02-13-2018 08:02 PM

nice job runscott:)

nkesterke09 02-14-2018 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuddjcal (Post 1747831)
nice job runscott:)

Yes nice job and thank you! On a positive note seller agreed to refund most of payment. Don’t hear that happen too often anymore. Thanks for all the insight everyone.

Lordstan 02-15-2018 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nkesterke09 (Post 1747883)
Yes nice job and thank you! On a positive note seller agreed to refund most of payment. Don’t hear that happen too often anymore. Thanks for all the insight everyone.

MOST of the payment? If he sold it as an autographed flyer, why it not be all of the payment?

nkesterke09 02-16-2018 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 1748456)
MOST of the payment? If he sold it as an autographed flyer, why it not be all of the payment?

This may be due to ignorance on my part but I expressed I was still interested in the piece as I am a Mantle fan. I should also mention this was on Facebook marketplace and the seller was very responsive and apologetic for the situation. I linked him to this thread and explained the information that was found. We came to an agreed upon price and the seller is also sending me an additional item. I could have returned the item for full refund but did not.

Lordstan 02-16-2018 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nkesterke09 (Post 1748479)
This may be due to ignorance on my part but I expressed I was still interested in the piece as I am a Mantle fan. I should also mention this was on Facebook marketplace and the seller was very responsive and apologetic for the situation. I linked him to this thread and explained the information that was found. We came to an agreed upon price and the seller is also sending me an additional item. I could have returned the item for full refund but did not.

Cool. Glad it worked out for you.

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Aquarian Sports Cards 02-16-2018 05:16 AM

So it's not live ink?

nkesterke09 02-16-2018 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1748486)
So it's not live ink?

No. Looks to be a pre printed ad.

Runscott 02-16-2018 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by nkesterke09 (Post 1748479)
This may be due to ignorance on my part but I expressed I was still interested in the piece as I am a Mantle fan. I should also mention this was on Facebook marketplace and the seller was very responsive and apologetic for the situation. I linked him to this thread and explained the information that was found. We came to an agreed upon price and the seller is also sending me an additional item. I could have returned the item for full refund but did not.

Do a search on 'Mantle' and 'Matt Powell' and you will find this image - it is on a website that shows loads of Mantle premiums and should give you a better idea of other Mantle pieces you could look for.

nkesterke09 02-16-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1748551)
Do a search on 'Mantle' and 'Matt Powell' and you will find this image - it is on a website that shows loads of Mantle premiums and should give you a better idea of other Mantle pieces you could look for.

Thanks I did do that... But the piece is actually "Watt Powell" and the site that shows the premium has "Matt Powell" by mistake. But I appreciate the info and will do more research next time.

Runscott 02-16-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nkesterke09 (Post 1748557)
Thanks I did do that... But the piece is actually "Watt Powell" and the site that shows the premium has "Matt Powell" by mistake. But I appreciate the info and will do more research next time.

That's interesting. I thought it said 'Matt', so I found it very quickly.


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