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tjisonline 04-22-2024 08:00 PM

1971 Pirates Sunday Autograph Photo Clemente card question. Help needed with PSA
 
Advice is appreciated on how to proceed w/ PSA as I would prefer to get the correct set year & name on the slab label. If PSA can’t recognize it was part of the 1971 Pirates “Sunday Autograph" Photos set, it will be labeled as “trading card”. It appears PSA needs proof other than the catalog mentioned below.

Background : For the last 3 weeks, PSA has rightfully kept my 1971 Clemente Sunday Autograph Photos card in the “Research & ID” phase. Their team can’t confirm it’s part of this 1971 Pirates team issued set since their system & Clemente registry doesn't include this set yet.



Below info is now considered incorrect.
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According to various editions of the Standard Catalog of Baseball Card (by the late Bob Lemke), Clemente had 2 cards in the ‘71 Action Photos set. Each has the same picture but the key diff is the placement of the text (& omission of jersey # & pos)

Attached is a picture of the catalog plus my card (text in pic) & the other version (text on the bottom border) that PSA recognizes in their system.

Note: the 365 days of Roberto Clemente thread has been helpful in my research.
https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=249493

Actual summary from the catalog = “1971 Pittsburgh Pirates Action Photos

A successor to the team-issued autograph cards of 1968-70, this set of souvenir photos was produced in a 4" x 5-1/2" black-and-white format on semi-gloss paper. The player's name, position, and uniform number were printed on front. Backs are blank. Some cards have the player's name printed in the white bottom border, some have it within the photo. The set was issued in two series. The checklist is presented here alphabetically within series.”

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71buc 04-23-2024 01:01 PM

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What you have is a Sunday Autograph photo card. These were given to fans at Three Rivers on Sundays to obtain the autographs of players scheduled to sign that date. Action cards are larger and the paper stock is similar to that of magazine pages. Sunday are card stock similar to greeting cards. I have all but 6 Action cards. They are tough to find especially in top condition due to the paper stock. The cropping on the Clemente is different on Sunday Cards as well. Here are a few examples a checklist, and uncut sheet examples of both sets. PSA doesn’t have them all listed. Hope this helps.

71buc 04-23-2024 01:13 PM

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Here’s Roberto signing at a Three Rivers Sunday Signing

mikemb 04-23-2024 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 71buc (Post 2428846)
Here’s Roberto signing at a Three Rivers Sunday Signing

Great picture!!

Are any of the kids in the picture you?

Mike

71buc 04-23-2024 01:59 PM

Unfortunately I am not in that picture.

tjisonline 04-23-2024 04:38 PM

This is extremely helpful. You mentioned the same to me in the 365 thread. Thank you so much. I updated the original post above and will contact PSA tomorrow.

I guess the next question is, How does someone go about getting PSA to recognize this?


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Originally Posted by 71buc (Post 2428843)
What you have is a Sunday Autograph photo card. These were given to fans at Three Rivers on Sundays to obtain the autographs of players scheduled to sign that date. Action cards are larger and the paper stock is similar to that of magazine pages. Sunday are card stock similar to greeting cards. I have all but 6 Action cards. They are tough to find especially in top condition due to the paper stock. The cropping on the Clemente is different on Sunday Cards as well. Here are a few examples a checklist, and uncut sheet examples of both sets. PSA doesn’t have them all listed. Hope this helps.



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