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chalupacollects 04-07-2019 07:34 AM

I had heard that Upper Deck is not really concerned with the fake autograph side of it with these cards but the fact that someone (maybe in China) is replicating the whole card selling them wholesale to buyers in the USA with the hologram on it. And that may be what brings the Feds into this...

thetruthisoutthere 04-07-2019 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chalupacollects (Post 1868228)
I had heard that Upper Deck is not really concerned with the fake autograph side of it with these cards but the fact that someone (maybe in China) is replicating the whole card selling them wholesale to buyers in the USA with the hologram on it. And that may be what brings the Feds into this...

I already know that Upper Deck doesn't give a hoot, but I am hoping that we can trace the source of the counterfeit cards via certain means.

A member here told me that another member here on Net54 says "That Tntnorthnj is a good guy."

If that's the case, maybe that member can communicate with Tntnorthnj and I am sure he will absolutely want to assist the hobby in locating the source of these counterfeit cards.

thetruthisoutthere 04-07-2019 09:01 AM

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Same sellers as the Jeter and Koufax cards.

Just like the Koufax cards that came out of the 2000 SP Authentic product, which was a tough pull, same with the Johnny Unitas 2001 Upper Deck Legends card.



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Ebay seller lyonhrt7777 has sold nine (9) of these since mid January.

thetruthisoutthere 04-07-2019 10:01 AM

Ebay seller Tntnorthnj Derek Jeter Forged Counterfeit 1995 UD Card
 
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Ebay seller Tntnorthnj sold more than a few of the below-style Derek Jeter forgery on one of those 1995 Upper Deck counterfeit cards.

Observe the raised "R" in "Jeter" on the front of the card.



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steve B 04-07-2019 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chalupacollects (Post 1868228)
I had heard that Upper Deck is not really concerned with the fake autograph side of it with these cards but the fact that someone (maybe in China) is replicating the whole card selling them wholesale to buyers in the USA with the hologram on it. And that may be what brings the Feds into this...


Most likely afraid they'll get caught again.

Yastrzemski Sports 04-07-2019 06:03 PM

These cards each probably average around $100 each - Koufax, Kobe, Jeter, Unitas, Harper, etc. what’s the difference between printing the fake card and printing a $100 bill? Looks to me like it’s the same thing.

thetruthisoutthere 04-07-2019 06:47 PM

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These cards each probably average around $100 each - Koufax, Kobe, Jeter, Unitas, Harper, etc. what’s the difference between printing the fake card and printing a $100 bill? Looks to me like it’s the same thing.

I agree!!!!

One of those sellers, in my opinion, must know the source of those cards.

thetruthisoutthere 04-20-2019 05:28 AM

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Ebay seller Tntnorthnj sold more than a few of the below-style Derek Jeter forgery on one of those 1995 Upper Deck counterfeit cards.

Observe the raised "R" in "Jeter" on the front of the card.



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Evidently TNTNorthnj doesn't know autographs.

Look at this train wreck listed by them.




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thetruthisoutthere 04-24-2019 05:54 PM

Sandy Koufax Forged/Counterfeit 2000 SP Authentic Blog
 
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I just posted a blog on the Sandy Koufax Forged/Counterfeit "2000 SP Authentic" cards.

No coincidence that the all of the Ebay sellers (primarily TNTNorthNJ and Lyonhrt7777) of the forged/counterfeit cards stopped listing them after I posted my blog on the Jeter counterfeit/forged cards.


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Ryan1125 04-25-2019 02:46 PM

They're always "listening" trying to stay one step ahead... amazing the lengths people go to in order to SCAM innocent people from their hard earned money. Absolute scumbags.

Runscott 04-26-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 1868259)
Ebay seller Tntnorthnj sold more than a few of the below-style Derek Jeter forgery on one of those 1995 Upper Deck counterfeit cards.

Observe the raised "R" in "Jeter" on the front of the card.

Great effort Chris. The forger really had a problem with the letter 'R' - it's lower on 'Derek'.

It looks like a one-run card printing, as they never corrected their problems.

thetruthisoutthere 04-26-2019 12:58 PM

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Great effort Chris. The forger really had a problem with the letter 'R' - it's lower on 'Derek'.

It looks like a one-run card printing, as they never corrected their problems.

Thank you, Scott.

As someone who knows Derek's autograph, those are all train wrecks.

The forger(s) penned multiple forgery styles.



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Sladge34 05-22-2019 01:49 PM

eBay seller tram7777, check his other stuff... but he’s selling that Jeter card on this thread... I reported to eBay, but we know what that does

Yastrzemski Sports 05-22-2019 03:37 PM

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eBay seller tram7777, check his other stuff... but he’s selling that Jeter card on this thread... I reported to eBay, but we know what that does

The Jersey guys put a lot of these out there over the past couple of years. This seller has all stuff that’s authenticated... and this card. He probably is another victim who bought something he thought was good. He probably doesn’t know.

MGHPro 05-22-2019 03:52 PM

TNT has these fakes up now

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Signat...gAAOSwDSpc5MFu

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Signat...MAAOSw7XFc5MFq

Sladge34 05-22-2019 05:30 PM

Ridiculous.... I wish someone would say something to Jeter about this. He may or may not know how bad it is.... But I’m sure he could do more than most people about this problem...

thetruthisoutthere 05-22-2019 06:38 PM

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eBay seller tram7777, check his other stuff... but he’s selling that Jeter card on this thread... I reported to eBay, but we know what that does

Ebay seller Tram7777 is also selling one of these.


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