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Posted By: <b>Randy Trierweiler</b><p>Lets see the real rare Topps Test stuff. I'll start it out with these: <br /><br /><br /><img src="http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u78/cardinalcollector/banquetcard-2.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u78/cardinalcollector/Cepedadisc-1.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u78/cardinalcollector/plaklist-1.jpg"><br /><br />Leon, sorry about the size. I haven't figured this out yet, Randy<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /> <br /><br /><br /> <br /> <br />
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Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Randy:<br /><br />Is that Disc rimmed and trimmed by Topps? Looks like a more advanced proof than most of these. <br /><br />I'll post some goodies this weekend-busy, busy right now.
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Posted By: <b>Randy Trierweiler</b><p>Hi Dave, the Cepeda disc is a proof. The back is white and blank, but shows some blue bleeding thru. I bought it from Bob Bostoff at the St. Louis National in 1996. I haven't seen another in this form yet. Can't wait to see your stuff. Randy
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>I'll throw a couple out there. Fun thread!<br /><br /><img src="http://www.bobsbbcards.com/images/baseball/1970/1970toppscloth/70ToppsClothHiggins.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.bobsbbcards.com/images/baseball/1961/1961toppsdicegame/61ToppsDiceGameFRobinson.jpg"><br />
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Posted By: <b>Randy Trierweiler</b><p>Bob, very nice. Do you have the 1970 Rich Nye cloth? Any idea how many exist? Randy
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Randy,<br /><br />No, I don't have the Nye (rats). I have Gentry, Hartenstein, Higgins, Laboy, Motton, NL Playoff Game 3, Niekro, and Santorini. I also have partial cards (located at the edge of the sheet, similar to the '72 cloth sheet if you've seen that one) of Alston, Culp, and Lowell Palmer.<br /><br />I have no idea how many exist. I've never seen two of the same player, but that doesn't mean much. I passed on a Jerry McNerty in the '80s because the guy wanted $100 and I wanted to pay $75. I'm an idiot.<br /><br />Bob
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Posted By: <b>Anthony</b><p>Bob- throw up all of your disks and standups, those are amazing.
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Posted By: <b>Kevin Saucier</b><p>Hell Bob, throw up just about anything in your collecion!<br /><br /><br />Here is one of mine:<br /><br /><img src="http://images1.collectors.com/psa/set_registry/m585906/70bench.JPG"><br /><br /><br />Plus (alhtough it's post 1980) I have "three" nicely cut complete sets of 1984 Topps encapsulated<br /><br /><img src="http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7708/84toppslx1.jpg"><br /><br /><br />Kevin
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>1967 Topps SF Giants Test Discs:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.bobsbbcards.com/images/baseball/1967/1967toppssfgiantstestdiscs/67SFTestDiscsMayor.jpg"> <img src="http://www.bobsbbcards.com/images/baseball/1967/1967toppssfgiantstestdiscs/67SFTestDiscsMcCovey.jpg"><br />
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Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Can you imagine if Willie had been Mayor of SF during the Summer of Love? Man, he'd be playing with an Afro, strings of love beads, drawstring pants, and cleated sandals!
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Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>OK, I found some time and scanned a few. Here are some of my favorites from my Topps type set:<br /><br />Best $60 I ever spent on a card, I think: <br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/kellmajallstar.jpg"><br /><br />This "large" Hocus Focus was a lot tougher to land than I thought it would be:<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/hocusfocus.jpg"><br /><br />Now for some 60's goodness. 67 Punchout of one of my all time favorite Mets:<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/jonespunchout.jpg"><br /><br />67 & 68 Discs:<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/McLaindisc.jpg"> <img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/alleydisc.jpg"><br /><br />This is a 68 Action All Star Proof from the Topps Vault:<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/68actionallstars.jpg"><br /><br />Front and back of the 68 AL Plak Checklist( a favorite):<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/nlplakfront.jpg"> <img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/nlplakback.jpg"><br /><br />Probably the one card I would keep if forced at gunpoint to give them all up but one:<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/maloney3d.jpg"><br /><br />Here's a tough Topps 68 Deckle Test/Proof featuring a minor leaguer to boot:<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/68undeckled.jpg"><br /><br />I'll display some 70's oddballs in the next post.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>I like the stuff from the 70's a lot, maybe even more than the 60's stuff.<br /><br />Here is a 72 Candy Lid Proof (Ebay last year, $11-I was the only bidder):<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/72candylid.jpg"><br /><br />Here's a 73 Pinup (I do not have a Comic yet):<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/73poster.jpg"><br /><br />I had half a set of these until recently and kept "Furillo", which has markings on the back that lead me to believe it may have been Woody Gelman's at one point: <br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/furillo5373.jpg"><br /><br />The Sticker and Much tougher Cardboard version of the 73 Action Emblems, plus the Coin Rub Game that came with it:<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/actionemblems.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/coinrubgame.jpg"><br /><br />I remember seeing this on This Week in Baseball in the 70's:<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/garagiola.jpg"><br /><br />A 74 Puzzle of Bonds (I like the Seaver wrapper better):<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/bondsjigsaw.jpg"><br /><br />And I need three for the set (very tough to complete these 74 Stamp Albums):<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/74stampalbum.jpg"><br /><br />And a nice pair of 76 Test Cloths:<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/76attachedcloth.jpg"><br /><br />Well, that was fun!<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Very cool stuff!!! Thanks for sharing! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Bob
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Dave Adlesh is sad that you called him a minor leaguer even though he had been with Houston for 5 years at that point.
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Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Bob-quite right, I was thinking 1969 and it looks like he was MLB thru 68. Ah, well. Still, a night time shot is pretty cool....
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Posted By: <b>Randy Trierweiler</b><p>Dave, very nice stuff. I will post some more tomorrow night. <br /><br />Bob, have you ever seen a 1967 Punchout Bob Gibson? <br /><br />I've been looking for over 12 years, I've never seen one. <br /><br />I talked to Steve Werley at the National, he said it exists.<br /><br />I also talked to a guy that only needed 5 for the set, and Gibson was one of them. <br /><br />Anybody have any Plaks or 1955 Stamps? <br /><br />Randy<br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>Andrew</b><p><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/littletreasures/yazsomeofmyfavorites/websize/y67n68discsSGC.jpg"><br><br>"Take your life in your own hands and what happens? A terrible thing: no one to blame." -- Erica Jong
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Randy,<br /><br />Never seen a Gibson Punchout either. Al (swaps55) has an almost complete set, so hopefully he'll chime in about the Gibson. I'm also not sure whether that's one of the few that Larry (sflayank on CU) is missing.<br /><br />Since you talked to Steve W. at the National, he probably mentioned the large number of Punchout panels that he had recently seen. Gibson was not on any of those.<br /><br />Bob
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Posted By: <b>Al</b><p>I still need 6 to complete that set, including Gibson. Larry also needs that one. I have not seen it in any condition. Nor have I seen the Brooks Robinson that is supposed to be in that set.<br /><br /> Dave--great picture of Carl Furillo. How do you suppose Topps managed to get 3 of the 8 cards in that set wrong ? Also, I mailed you one of the 80 scratch off games. Per our prior e mails, I still do not think they had anything to do with the 80 test coins. The big book list 4 different materials used in the 76 Cloth prototypes, which version is the one you picutred if you can tell ? Did you know each of the 68 deckle prototypes come with any of three different colored autographs, red, blue and black. I know one obsessed collector who has the "set" all three ways, but don't worry Bob, I will not name him. Also, did you know there is a 1991 version of the 76 Garagiola card you posted.
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Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Yeah, Topps had a bad day at the factory with those 53 Reprints!<br /><br />The 76 Cloth have a backing and are similar to the 77's in texture. I also have what is likely the sheerest of the 4 types as well in separate pieces. I missed out on an Ebay auction that had three of the four and the other two I did not have looked like thicker and thicker again versions of the sheer, flannel like ones.<br /><br />I still need the blue and black 68 Deckle Proofs. I have seen them and passed at what were good prices last year and regret that now. I relly need to get to the next National to search for some of the remaining types I need for the Topps run from 49-80.<br /><br />I was not aware of the 91 Garagiola at all. I cut everything I collect (or at least track and try to obtain) off at 1980 although I do have some research material on post 80's stuff and have a bunch of 80's issues but I haven't tried to checklist all those sets and then what I have as well. Not enough time in the day unfortunately to do that any time soon.<br /><br />I have to say I am not regretting just going after a type of each of the Topps issues. The values on someare really zooming right now.
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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>Bob,<br /><br /> Does that Dice Game card have a very light crease on one corner? If so, it used to be mine. I miss it.<br /><br />Paul
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Paul,<br /><br />It misses you too. Sometimes it cries.<br /><br />Bob <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1189283887.JPG">
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Posted By: <b>Anthony</b><p>Jim- have you had any issues with cracking on that card, or any others in the set?
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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>Here are all three types of Candy Lids.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1189289634.JPG">
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Paul,<br /><br />Awesome lids!! If you ever want to make another card miss you, please send the '72 Seaver Candy Lid to me please. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jim,<br /><br />Beautiful Clemente!! Glad you (or Al) got the scanner working! <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br />
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Anthony,<br /><br />No--don't think so. I have 10 of the 12 in high grade--missing Powell and Flood.<br /><br />Have you seen many in holders which have cracked?<br /><br />Jim
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Posted By: <b>Anthony</b><p>I"ve heard of a lot of stories of Kellogg's cracking in the holders, it seems to always be from collectors in cold climates. Last I checked none of mine had cracked, but cold here is 65 degrees. I would think since the same company produced the Topps as the Kellogg's that the same issues would be encountered.<br /><br /> Bob, have you had any issues with yours cracking?<br />
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Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>My Kellogg's 3D-s (not test issues, and not in holders) tend to warp. Maybe those that are restrained from this tendancy, such as those in a holder, cause the card to instead crack -- sort of like the weakest link in a chain...the card is "looking" to give at some part. (Anyway that's my theory...conversely, I could be full it it.)
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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>Bob,<br /><br /> My Seaver collection will be buried with me. I've never seen another of that 72/73/borderless whatever-the-heck-it-is candy lid. Years ago, Brian Morris told me that the borderless lids were just the first few print runs of the '73 set, and that all of the '73 lids are available in this format. You sure don't see them too often.<br /><br />Paul
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Anthony,<br /><br />No cracking yet (knock on wood). <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Paul,<br /><br />I've never seen a round Seaver in the borderless lids (until now). I've got the square cut proof (shown below) and quite a few round lids of other players. I agree that it most likely was an early printing of the '73s rather than a separate '72 issue. The box design for the '73s shows pictures of borderless lids.<br /><br />Please start a Seaver thread. I'd be very interested in seeing what you (and others) have of George Thomas. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Bob<br /><br /><img src="http://www.bobsbbcards.com/images/baseball/1972/1972toppscandylids/72ToppsCandyLidsSeaver.jpg">
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Here's a Carew round '72 lid and a '73 Topps Comics Seaver:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.bobsbbcards.com/images/baseball/1972/1972toppscandylids/72ToppsCandyLidCarew.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.bobsbbcards.com/images/baseball/1973/1973toppscomics/73ToppsComicSeaver.jpg">
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1189554903.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1189554884.JPG">
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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>What's that Seaver card? I've never seen that before. (awesome Ryan)
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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I'll try to start a Seaver thread this weekend. I'll need to scan a few of my more unusual ones.<br /><br />Bob, if you have any borderless candy lids that you want to let go of, please let me know. That Carew is great.
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Posted By: <b>Frank Evanov</b><p><img src="http://images1.collectors.com/psa/set_registry/m514804/68TMMSticker.jpg"><br><br>Frank
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>The blue Seaver is just a regular 1971 card missing the black ink. Underneath the black ink on 71’s there’s the blue dot pattern you see above. If you look closely at a normal 1971 card around the lettering and inner white border you’ll see traces of the blue dots at spots.<br /><br />Here's a picture borrowed from a Topps Vault auction showing a 1970 Seaver version which you don't see every day.<br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1189605369.JPG">
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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>Redmanchewer or anyone knowledeable of 1970s printing techniques:<br /><br />Do you know if Topps needed to actually produce the Tom Seaver card shown on the 1970 cello box in order to make the box? Or could Topps have just made the box without ever making the card? I'd sure love that card / proof / mock-up if it exists.<br /><br />Paul
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Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Frank -- I'm breaking a commandment by coventing my neighbor's Mantle. A beaut!
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Anyone know anything about this - 1967 Topps Pinup Sticker - Sticker backing similar to 1967 Pirate stickers and 1968 Action all star stickers, glossy front, no #??
Always looking for Rare Topps Test issues to add to the Clemente Colllection - 1966 Punchout (Does it exist? Would love a scan if not for sale), 1967-1968 Disc. Thanks. -Howard Ps. Check out my next post for another real rarity! |
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Anyone know where I can get a sheet like this cleanly cut? Here's some incentive - I'd be willing to sell some panels if I could get it cut!! Anyone know what the story is with these - seem to be "plenty" of singles around, but I own the only panels I've ever seen - 1 set and this uncut sheet. Anybody. Anybody.
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I may have created the misconception the Clemente exists a long time ago based upon an erroneous assumption on my part but have seen no confirmation it does. Here is the known 66 PO checklist:
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what happened to the guy with the punchouts did he ever tell u if they all have the instructions? ill start the bidding at ???? for the lot |
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Thanks for the update on the 66 punchouts. I bought the 66 PO from the Mastro auction 10 years ago. Unfortunately, I sold it 9 years and 11 months ago. I don't know if you've confirmed through your research multiple copies of any of them , but the one I sold went to a Mays collector, so if the guy who has the small group of them has the Mays (and is not the Mays collector), they produced at least 2. I too would be interested in taking a shot at buying some/all of them. Larry - Firstly I think you'll need an extra ? in your starting bid - Secondly, I'll split them with you:) Any comments/info on the 67 Pinup Sticker I posted?? How about were a guy can get a 1971 Bazooka numbered sheet cut? -Howard |
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yes i should have put 5 ????? in my bid im just hoping it doesnt need 6 larry |
The '66 Punchouts in the large collection had finished backs from what I remember of it; I can't find the confirming e-mail at present though. I haven't heard from the gent in months but he was hanging on to the cards at least until the economy improves IMO. He didn't seem in a hurry to consign them, that's for sure.
I was trying to confirm the Mays in Mastro so this is good intel here. I believe another Mays exists as well in addition to the one in the gent's collection but it could be the resale of the Mastro one. Our man had duplicate copies of some as well, not sure which ones. I believe 2-4 copies of each probably are known at this point, similar to the pop of the '61 Dice Game cards. |
Oh yeah, the 67 Pinup Clemente Sticker-I want to compare the sig to the one in the latest Clemente thread on this board, which has a solid blue auto of similar vintage. Will try that later if I have time (may not). I am presently thinking that sticker was a one-off produced at Topps as a lark, the quality is realy to good for it to be a fake I think believe.
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I posted the Clemente sig in the other thread. Although the sig on the 67 pin-up is close, I am 99.99% certain it is not legit. I have about 12 Clemente sigs and have collected him for a long time. I did a fair amount of research on his auto too in the past, and I don't believe it's good. I have talked with other serious Clemente collectors over the years, and we've had discussions about one of Clemente's friends (associate?) who used to sign some of his mail. I have a couple of examples similar to the one on the 67 pin-up that I purchased early on and from experience and discussions with other Clemente collectors I began to differentiate legit and non-legit. Once you've seen a significant amount of signatures, it becomes easier to pick them out. Mike |
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I have not had the signature checked out by anyone so I do not know if opinion would leave it good or bad. That said, I HAVE had the Pin up sticker under a 20 power loop. Having been the unfortunate victim of counterfeits in the past, I took a REAL good look at the sticker - I saw nothing that would indicate to me it was a counterfeit. It has been a little while, but if my memory serves me correctly, the print was much tighter on the sticker than on an actual 67 pinup - to me indicating it would have to have been printed from an original source (How did they print these things back then?). Dave if it would help I could do a magnified high res scan of a part of it to share what I saw - even putting it next to a pin up. Probably wouldn't get to this for a while as life is a bit crazy now.
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