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CuriousGeorge 07-28-2019 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1903627)
Not sure what being robbed has to do with anything I said. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, which Greg is not. There was no sarcasm whatsoever in my post. I don't know if the endorsement of someone who at the very least had the appearance of being in bed with PWCC is good for a new business. Sorry if you don't like it, but I'm far from the only one who feels that way.

Appearance?

Mark17 07-28-2019 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1903570)
Someone needs to start a service that removes all these silly stickers without damaging the slab or leaving sticky residue.

But then how will I know if my cards look nice?

Aquarian Sports Cards 07-28-2019 06:51 PM

Tell you what David. If you're willing to go on the record saying that you never received ANY type of consideration for ANY of your contributions (not limited to PWCC) to Forbes I will apologize. But remember there's a lot of people on this site who know a lot of other people. I even know a few myself.

Just.Rachel 07-28-2019 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1903559)
Rachel’s is the first positive contribution. Hopefully, it will mitigate some of the stench in the hobby. And for all the lawyers on the board, that was mitigate, not litigate.

Haha yes!!! Anti-stench stickers!

Litigate, mitigate, schmitigate...above my pay grade. Trimmed schmimmed, not my department. See an expert if that's a concern. But if you want your slab to smell nice, I'm all about it!

Rachel's tiny gold stickers, never sniff foul slabs again!

Hehe

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CuriousGeorge 07-28-2019 07:16 PM

Ummm....just wondering if anyone has seen Kat Alexander and Rachel in the same room? Hmmmm, Kate’s last activity was July 26 and Rachel joined the same day. Hmmmm, Kate’s from DC and Rachel is from Miami though. Just wondering but could the next strange coincidence be that Kat went to a law school in Florida and is a member of the Florida bar? If I wasn’t certain Leon saw the similarities too and spoke with her I might actually start believing my conspiracy theory.

bnorth 07-28-2019 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge (Post 1903653)
Ummm....just wondering if anyone has seen Kat Alexander and Rachel in the same room? Hmmmm, Kate’s last activity was July 26 and Rachel joined the same day. Hmmmm, Kate’s from DC and Rachel is from Miami though. Just wondering but could the next strange coincidence be that Kat went to a law school in Florida and is a member of the Florida bar? If I wasn’t certain Leon saw the similarities too and spoke with her I might actually start believing my conspiracy theory.

The last female poster from Florida that turned out to be an impostor was a good male friend of the OP.

Peter_Spaeth 07-28-2019 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1903655)
The last female poster from Florida that turned out to be an impostor was a good male friend of the OP.

NotVader LOL. I never understood why Greg didn't shut that down knowing it was BS.

Peter_Spaeth 07-28-2019 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge (Post 1903653)
Ummm....just wondering if anyone has seen Kat Alexander and Rachel in the same room? Hmmmm, Kate’s last activity was July 26 and Rachel joined the same day. Hmmmm, Kate’s from DC and Rachel is from Miami though. Just wondering but could the next strange coincidence be that Kat went to a law school in Florida and is a member of the Florida bar? If I wasn’t certain Leon saw the similarities too and spoke with her I might actually start believing my conspiracy theory.

No similarities in their posts though. :eek:

CuriousGeorge 07-28-2019 07:38 PM

Another day on the boards.

CobbSpikedMe 07-28-2019 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1903657)
NotVader LOL. I never understood why Greg didn't shut that down knowing it was BS.

Wait, NotVader wasn't a real poster? I'm so out of the loop here. :rolleyes:

Just.Rachel 07-28-2019 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge (Post 1903653)
Ummm....just wondering if anyone has seen Kat Alexander and Rachel in the same room? Hmmmm, Kate’s last activity was July 26 and Rachel joined the same day. Hmmmm, Kate’s from DC and Rachel is from Miami though. Just wondering but could the next strange coincidence be that Kat went to a law school in Florida and is a member of the Florida bar? If I wasn’t certain Leon saw the similarities too and spoke with her I might actually start believing my conspiracy theory.

Ummm, have I done something wrong?

I don't know this Kat. I'm not part of any grand conspiracy. I'm just a nobody housewife in Miami that has nothing to do with anything going on here. I just wanted to enjoy the forum, learn a few things, maybe make a friend or two.

Have I done something to earn this disrespect?

Am I not welcome here?

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Mark17 07-28-2019 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Just.Rachel (Post 1903686)
Ummm, have I done something wrong?

I don't know this Kat. I'm not part of any grand conspiracy. I'm just a nobody housewife in Miami that has nothing to do with anything going on here. I just wanted to enjoy the forum, learn a few things, maybe make a friend or two.

Have I done something to earn this disrespect?

Am I not welcome here?

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Some are so caught up fretting over whether their graded cards are real, so now they are wondering whether people are real. We have too many lawyers here and not enough psychiatrists IMHO.

Some percentage of the people here are strange, rude, or just your garden variety odd. Hang around these boards for awhile and you'll learn to navigate through. But don't leave because of some snarky posts.

CobbSpikedMe 07-29-2019 06:16 AM

Yeah Rachel, you're cool. No worries. Hang in there. :)

Leon 07-29-2019 07:30 AM

Could be as funny as The Real Deal being your brother on BO....but then once that is verified he could have some serious legal and bar related issues. He might need to hire himself to defend himself.

As for Kat and Just Rachel. That is being dealt with and neither of them will be allowed to post anymore until I get to the bottom of it.


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Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge (Post 1903653)
Ummm....just wondering if anyone has seen Kat Alexander and Rachel in the same room? Hmmmm, Kate’s last activity was July 26 and Rachel joined the same day. Hmmmm, Kate’s from DC and Rachel is from Miami though. Just wondering but could the next strange coincidence be that Kat went to a law school in Florida and is a member of the Florida bar? If I wasn’t certain Leon saw the similarities too and spoke with her I might actually start believing my conspiracy theory.


Mark17 07-29-2019 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1903727)

As for Kat and Just Rachel. That is being dealt with and neither of them will be allowed to post anymore until I get to the bottom of it.

Have we been infiltrated by spies?

Oh my, first the Feds and now this.

Leon 07-29-2019 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 1903729)
Have we been infiltrated by spies?

Oh my, first the Feds and now this.

My goal is to have all members be who they say they are. Regardless of their tenure here if I am not convinced then they are gone. It isn't difficult to prove who you are if you really want to.

As for the Feds the FBI Special Agent who gave a speech at our Net54 banquet, 2 yrs ago, said he reads this forum every day.

CuriousGeorge 07-29-2019 07:47 AM

Do you have any attorneys you could recommend?

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1903727)
Could be as funny as The Real Deal being your brother on BO....but then once that is verified he could have some serious legal and bar related issues. He might need to hire himself to defend himself.

As for Kat and Just Rachel. That is being dealt with and neither of them will be allowed to post anymore until I get to the bottom of it.


Leon 07-29-2019 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge (Post 1903732)
Do you have any attorneys you could recommend?

No. I don't know any good criminal lawyers. I guess it could be a civil matter though, not sure. But I doubt the NY Bar would like one of their lawyers trolling on the internet and lying out their arses. I can't imagine that is ethical but then again, it doesn't seem to matter to some lawyers.

CuriousGeorge 07-29-2019 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1903733)
No. I don't know any good criminal lawyers.

Peter can you help here?

Peter_Spaeth 07-29-2019 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge (Post 1903734)
Peter can you help here?

I know some good criminal lawyers and some good lawyers who are criminals, which are you looking for? :eek:

Speaking of good criminal lawyers, did anyone see the New Yorker piece on Alan Dershowitz?

CuriousGeorge 07-29-2019 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1903735)
I know some good criminal lawyers and some good lawyers who are criminals, which are you looking for? :eek:


Haha. I guess in keeping with the spirit of the board I’ll take the latter please.

Peter_Spaeth 07-29-2019 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge (Post 1903736)
Haha. I guess in keeping with the spirit of the board I’ll take the latter please.

Alan Dershowitz first line of criminal law class: Statistically, more of you will be criminal defendants than criminal lawyers.

trdcrdkid 07-29-2019 11:00 AM

Greg -- if the service is free, then what's your business model? Are you just donating your time and money for the good of the hobby? How many people do you have evaluating cards for purple stickers? If it's not just you, then who else do you have, and what are their qualifications?

Aquarian Sports Cards 07-29-2019 11:03 AM

It's not uncommon for a new service to provide said service for free as a way of increasing visibility in the market-place. The National is pretty much the best live venue to do something like that, and if he can afford to do it, it makes perfect sense. Can't speak to your other questions.

vintagetoppsguy 07-29-2019 11:47 AM

The way I interpreted it is that the review is free, not the sticker. In other words, if you have a card that qualifies and you wanted it stickered, there is a fee for that. If I'm wrong, Greg can correct me.

Peter_Spaeth 07-29-2019 11:56 AM

Every square inch of the slab should be monetized. TPGs could connect with major corporations who could put their stickers on as well, featuring logos or stock symbols.

Just.Rachel 07-29-2019 12:14 PM

Oh crud, in a couple years time we'll be seeing slabs with Burger King advertisements on them. Quick, somebody shove the genie back in the bottle!

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lowpopper 07-29-2019 12:37 PM

If a card is awarded a sticker, there is no additional
charge. I am essentially donating my time and money
to the hobby. We are nearing 1000 stickered cards and
I look to increase that many times over. These cards
all reside (digitally) on a searchable database which
anyone can utilize on the Purple Label website. Try it
out for yourselves at SLABSTICKER.COM

I am making my best effort to meet people face to
face. Those that know me say my attention to detail
is unparalleled. I would like to show and share that
with everyone who I would not normally be awarded
the opportunity to meet.

Looking forward to seeing everyone in Chicago!

Mark17 07-29-2019 03:07 PM

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Every square inch of the slab should be monetized. TPGs could connect with major corporations who could put their stickers on as well, featuring logos or stock symbols.

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JollyElm 07-29-2019 03:15 PM

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I posted this somewhere else a while ago...

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Promethius88 07-29-2019 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 1903879)
I posted this somewhere else a while ago...

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Best thing I've seen in a while, lol!!

Mark17 07-29-2019 03:26 PM

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The key to advertising is to focus your ads to your target audience. So I'm thinking something perhaps more subtle.......

perezfan 07-29-2019 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 1903891)
The key to advertising is to focus your ads to your target audience. So I'm thinking something perhaps more subtle.......

Too funny... Rumor has it that Bartolo Colon has replaced Terry Forster in the updated McDonald's Set.

CobbSpikedMe 07-29-2019 04:14 PM

It looks so NASCAR except for the McD's logo. Funny though.:D

Aquarian Sports Cards 07-29-2019 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1903903)
Too funny... Rumor has it that Bartolo Colon has replaced Terry Forster in the updated McDonald's Set.

Don't forget the David Wells insert...

Just.Rachel 07-29-2019 05:53 PM

There's definitely room for product placement tailored to specific players...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e8924b5cbf.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5ec6c6dc20.jpg

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doug.goodman 07-29-2019 05:54 PM

This thread is amazing.

kateighty 08-06-2019 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Just.Rachel (Post 1903686)
Ummm, have I done something wrong?

I don't know this Kat. I'm not part of any grand conspiracy. I'm just a nobody housewife in Miami that has nothing to do with anything going on here. I just wanted to enjoy the forum, learn a few things, maybe make a friend or two.

Have I done something to earn this disrespect?

Am I not welcome here?

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Ummm what on earth happened here? Thanks Rachel for bringing this to my attention. I had no idea all of this crap was going on. I haven't been on here much lately as I've been on vacation and traveling. Thanks Leon (NOT!) for letting me know. Would have been nice for you to reach out to me personally since we've talked before. I've been nothing but honest so this is really quite heartbreaking.

For the record, I'm not Rachel (no offense Rachel). I have a life outside of this website and I don't check in on a daily (sometimes weekly) basis. Sorry Rachel for having to go through this - she apparently had to send Leon her drivers license to prove she wasn't me. Yet, not a damn person contacted me about this until Rachel. Leon was happy to wrongfully doubt me though.

I might speak out and offend people at times but I'd never create another account and do what y'all accused me of. Honestly I thought you were better than that. A few apologies should be in order. This is hurtful and beyond messed up.

If anything like this ever happens again please reach out to me Leon instead of slamming and doubting me. I expect more from this forum. How you handled this is majorly disrespectful and disappointing.

Leon 08-06-2019 09:11 PM

This is an internet chat board for baseball card collectors, how heartbreaking can it be if you have done nothing wrong? Have you met anyone on this forum face to face yet (not that it really matters)?

That all said there is no playbook for how to address situations on the forum. Making sure people are who they say they are is a big deal. There were some others who thought the coincidences between you and Rachel were uncanny. I did too. My apologies if you are offended.

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Originally Posted by kateighty (Post 1906189)
Ummm what on earth happened here? Thanks Rachael for bringing this to my attention. I had no idea all of this crap was going on. I haven't been on here much lately as I've been on vacation and traveling. Thanks Leon (NOT!) for letting me know. Would have been nice for you to reach out to me personally since we've talked before. I've been nothing but honest so this is really quite heartbreaking.

For the record, I'm not Rachel (no offense Rachel). I have a life outside of this website and I don't check in on a daily (sometimes weekly) basis. Sorry Rachel for having to go through this - she apparently had to send Leon her drivers license to prove she wasn't me. Yet, not a damn person contacted me about this until Rachel. Leon was happy to wrongfully doubt me though.

I might speak out and offend people at times but I'd never create another account and do what y'all accused me of. Honestly I thought you were better than that. A few apologies should be in order. This is hurtful and beyond messed up.

If anything like this ever happens again please reach out to me Leon instead of slamming and doubting me. I expect more from this forum. How you handled this is majorly disrespectful and disappointing.


kateighty 08-06-2019 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1906193)
This is an internet chat board for baseball card collectors, how heartbreaking can it be if you have done nothing wrong? Have you met anyone on this forum face to face yet (not that it really matters)?

That all said there is no playbook for how to address situations on the forum. Making sure people are who they say they are is a big deal. There were some others who thought the coincidences between you and Rachel were uncanny. I did too. My apologies if you are offended.

It's heartbreaking because I care about this shit Leon. I'm sorry if you don't get it. Just because another woman signs up for this forum and has an opinion that resembles mine doesn't mean we're the same person. You clearly don't do the same for the men here.

Times are changing. I've gotten several emails and messages from dads on here thanking me for my voice and saying that I'm an inspiration for their daughters who are interested in vintage cards. They hope their daughters will one day join this internet chat board as they're more into collecting cards than their sons. Surely they wouldn't want to do so if Leon is only going to require women to jump through hoops (myself included) to verify their identity.

Leon 08-06-2019 09:37 PM

With regard to checking on identities I am color blind, gender blind and anything else blind. Sorry if you want to make it into something it isn't. Please don't be so dramatic too. It makes it seem like I was correct when you posted my PM to you saying I thought you have thin skin. Once again, don't make this into a gender thing when it hasn't a thing to do with it. Thanks

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Originally Posted by kateighty (Post 1906196)
It's heartbreaking because I care about this shit Leon. I'm sorry if you don't get it. Just because another woman signs up for this forum and has an opinion that resembles mine doesn't mean we're the same person. You clearly don't do the same for the men here.

Times are changing. I've gotten several emails and messages from dads on here thanking me for my voice and saying that I'm an inspiration for their daughters who are interested in vintage cards. They hope their daughters will one day join this internet chat board as they're more into collecting cards than their sons. Surely they wouldn't want to do so if Leon is only going to require women to jump through hoops (myself included) to verify their identity.


LEHR 08-06-2019 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kateighty (Post 1906196)
It's heartbreaking because I care about this shit Leon. I'm sorry if you don't get it. Just because another woman signs up for this forum and has an opinion that resembles mine doesn't mean we're the same person. You clearly don't do the same for the men here.

Times are changing. I've gotten several emails and messages from dads on here thanking me for my voice and saying that I'm an inspiration for their daughters who are interested in vintage cards. They hope their daughters will one day join this internet chat board as they're more into collecting cards than their sons. Surely they wouldn't want to do so if Leon is only going to require women to jump through hoops (myself included) to verify their identity.

After 30 years of collecting I’m still dumbfounded that people get so butt hurt over baseball cards or other people’s opinions of them in this hobby. And why would any parent give a crap if their young daughters one day joined a baseball card message board or not? That’s comical at best.

Mark17 08-06-2019 10:22 PM

On a different baseball collector forum (specializing in game used) I was once called by the site owner who suspected me of having multiple accounts. I was a bit annoyed (because it was a chat room... what would be the point of doing that?) but after asserting my innocence and providing some info, everything was straightened up, he explained why he had wondered, and then he apologized. I consider that guy to be one of the good guys in the hobby.

I had healed emotionally even before my phone call with him ended.

I think everyone should lighten up a bit; we'll all be dead in 100 years anyway. :rolleyes:

kateighty 08-06-2019 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge (Post 1903653)
Ummm....just wondering if anyone has seen Kat Alexander and Rachel in the same room? Hmmmm, Kate’s last activity was July 26 and Rachel joined the same day. Hmmmm, Kate’s from DC and Rachel is from Miami though. Just wondering but could the next strange coincidence be that Kat went to a law school in Florida and is a member of the Florida bar? If I wasn’t certain Leon saw the similarities too and spoke with her I might actually start believing my conspiracy theory.

I went to law school in DC. Not even close. Thanks for the insults though. Not sure why you wasted brain cells on this but wow.

kateighty 08-06-2019 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1906197)
With regard to checking on identities I am color blind, gender blind and anything else blind. Sorry if you want to make it into something it isn't. Please don't be so dramatic too. It makes it seem like I was correct when you posted my PM to you saying I thought you have thin skin. Once again, don't make this into a gender thing when it hasn't a thing to do with it. Thanks

Sure doesn't seem that way. Would love to know how many dudes you've called up in the last three months. You might not thing it's a gender thing but you know what, when you're on the other side it sure as hell comes across that way.

kateighty 08-06-2019 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LEHR (Post 1906198)
After 30 years of collecting I’m still dumbfounded that people get so butt hurt over baseball cards or other people’s opinions of them in this hobby. And why would any parent give a crap if their young daughters one day joined a baseball card message board or not? That’s comical at best.

Good for you. You started collecting before I was in kindergarten. I've grown up in a time where people could care less about collecting cards, especially ones over 100 years old. It's something that means a lot to me and I take things personally. Sorry if you guys give me crap for that but that's how I am. Say what you will but I'm allowed to have my own feelings, especially when a bunch of old men start talking smack about me and wrongly hypothesizing about my background. Now that's more comical in my opinion.

kateighty 08-06-2019 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Just.Rachel (Post 1903827)
Oh crud, in a couple years time we'll be seeing slabs with Burger King advertisements on them. Quick, somebody shove the genie back in the bottle!

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For someone who doesn't know much about cards, you sure seem to know a lot about slabs and the National, enough to call it the Natty. Interesting. Yet my name was wrongly and falsely inserted in all of this mess.

LEHR 08-06-2019 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kateighty (Post 1906213)
Good for you. You started collecting before I was in kindergarten. I've grown up in a time where people could care less about collecting cards, especially ones over 100 years old. It's something that means a lot to me and I take things personally. Sorry if you guys give me crap for that but that's how I am. Say what you will but I'm allowed to have my own feelings, especially when a bunch of old men start talking smack about me and wrongly hypothesizing about my background. Now that's more comical in my opinion.

I enjoy collecting as much as everyone else here, but again; it’s just pictures of dead guys on cardboard. Nothing earth shattering, nothing serious. Lighten up. I mean, would your life be any less meaningful if Leon shut this board down tomorrow?

kateighty 08-07-2019 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LEHR (Post 1906221)
I enjoy collecting as much as everyone else here, but again; it’s just pictures of dead guys on cardboard. Nothing earth shattering, nothing serious. Lighten up. I mean, would your life be any less meaningful if Leon shut this board down tomorrow?

Of course not. But false statements about my education and bar membership should not be allowed. And these statements are being quoted over and over again. That's beyond a personal attack. I stick by anything I personally say but for other people on here to use my full name and attack my personal credentials that's another story. It's not ok.

Mark17 08-07-2019 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kateighty (Post 1906220)
For someone who doesn't know much about cards, you sure seem to know a lot about slabs and the National, enough to call it the Natty. Interesting. Yet my name was wrongly and falsely inserted in all of this mess.

Kat, why are you questioning the integrity of a female? Isn't this PRECISELY why you have chosen (and yes, it is a choice) to be offended? I wonder how many dudes YOU have questioned lately, over the use of the word "Natty."

Your comment above sure looks sexist to me...........

Rachel didn't accuse you of anything - she was being accused. And from what you stated earlier, she was the one nice enough to let you know what was happening. Why turn on HER, of all people?

You are choosing to be offended over nothing, and you are treating an innocent person exactly as you were treated. Does that make you feel better?


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