Show your Michael Jordan and ALL OTHER star company basketball cards
 

I am starting to add cards i have always wanted as a kid to my collection.

I am buying jordan 101 cards 7.5 and higher grades by bgs. Hit me up if you have any to sell. I will start the thread with one of my jordan star cards. I would love to see your collections.

Ben

Ben:

I had the same idea but last year before the price really spiked on the Star Jordan RC's. I have not been in a good cash position for a while now so couldn't make the pick-ups. As usual, I missed the boat, too late now............

Same thing happened with Giancarlo Stanton RC's a couple of years ago...........

The vintage baseball RC's that I was able to buy like Aaron, Mays, Clemente, etc. netted me zero in return. Go figure, right.............

Yeah.. they have def gone up but I do not see them ever declining as they are RARE. Here is another I picked up. 1984-85 #195.

Definitely scarce, Ben. My biggest fear with them is the fact that the fakes of all Star Co. basketball cards produced were so good that both PSA and SGC have refused to grade these since Day 1. Even though Beckett has taken on the task in recent years, how many fakes do you think have slipped through the cracks and are in holders? My guess is a decent amount and if one of these ends up being a 9.5 Jordan RC and is discovered, the resulting news hitting the market could cause a big downturn in this issue overall IMHO.

Phil, I understand what you are saying as I once had some of the same concerns.

Now, however, I believe there is a huge misconception about potential fakes of Star Company cards. Ck out the link. This is from Steve Taft. He is the #1 expert in Star cards. He trained Beckett, GAI, and SCD. He is the Steve Hart (unopened material), Lew Lipset (preWar cards), Paul Muchinsky (pinbacks), Henry Yee (photographs), Grad/Spence/Keurajian (autographs) of Star Co. cards from what I have gathered.

http://jordancards.com/blog/the-real...rt-steve-taft/

Here are a few of mine. Nice to see some others - the centering is always tough on these issues, but the ones you've all posted above are some of the nicest I've seen.

- Jamie

288
 

Nice Jamie,

Here is my #288. This and the #195 are underrated I think as they are also from 1984 with a very low pop and both outside cards in bags.

Ben

Underrated
 

This is, IMO, the most underrated card. It is obviously because it is oversized(5x7). However, its weakness also makes it great(more condition sensitive). It is also on the top of the bag and a very low pop. On top of that, it is probably the best image of all the Jordan star cards and thought to be his FIRST by some. It is 100 percent from 1984. I would buy BGS 9s all day long.
Thoughts??

Newest acquisition; 101 8.5 bgs
 

Attachment 186834Love this one.

Lite Beer.

I am happy to finally see some discussion on the Star basketball card sets. I have a complete run of all three years and most or all of the subsets still in their sealed bags. I also have some additional cards graded by SCD (many years ago) and have been debating whether or not to open bags and send some of the key cards to Beckett. Any thoughts on a preference of bagged or Beckett graded from the crowd here? Thanks in advance

I would go with the Beckett graded option. I think there are too many collectors who will pass on these cards entirely if not graded.

If you are certain the bags are legit, I would keep them bagged. That is, unless the key cards(on the top) look very high grade. I would only crack a jordan 101 out, for example, if I thought it would bring a 8 or higher(maybe even an 8.5 or higher).

1985-86 All Rookie

Damn.. That looks like a high grade 8! Love the black borders on those holders as they really make the bold star colors pop!

Grail
 

My newest acquisition. Now what?

Nice Jordan, Ben.

What are your thoughts on collecting the other major rookies from the Star sets, i.e.- Barkley, Olajuwon, Ewing, Drexler, Wilkins, Thomas and Worthy (probably left someone else out)?

For my 2 cents worth I think the other Stars from these sets will eventually rise in price quickly. We have seen over the years a pattern where the "super duper star" rookie card gets all of the attention for a period of time, then the focus moves to the other HOFers in a set, finally followed by the commons (for the set builders). The Star cards are unique in the sense that they have not fully been accepted because of the fear of reprints. When collectors feel confident they are purchasing original cards (Beckett is helping this greatly), I think they will explode in value.

Ben,
Mazel Tov on getting that card !!!
See you in Chicago at the National !!!

Great cards! Yes phil, I do collect the others too. I have 9 or 9.5s in most of them. Here is a beautiful Wilkins I own. As beautiful as it is, my Jordan below is just as good in person. One SP card I am in love with is the 83 Bird. I also like(collect) certain bags. I have a Jordan 101 bag and a Barkley bag.

Jewish collector.. Looking forward to seeing you buddy.

Here is a Jordan 101 bag and barkley xrc bag. I think the mj would grade an 8.

Looks like by waiting and feeling out the market on the other Star RC's, I have missed the boat again, just like I did on the Jordan last year. Many of the higher-grade Ewing's, Barkley's, Olajuwon's, Drexler's, etc. have very recently sold on e-bay after being out there for a long time at enticing prices.

Oh well, I'll get in on something at the ground floor one of these days...........

Perhaps I should have kept my mouth shut until I was completely satisfied. But then again, ben's belly is never full and it is fun to share passions. Oh well.,

Ben:

Centering on that Barkley should be at least a 9. Is the back way off?

No, that's why I bought it. I felt it was way better than the grade. It is a sweet card. Beckett can be all over teh place in subs; particularly in star card centering. Which.. no idea how you can be on centering of all things. It is the only thing measurable. ha! Maybe graded on a curve?? IDK

Just trying to keep the thread alive

Love it!

http://youtu.be/1aM8Am2ISh8


Here are a couple more I own.

Just gonna keep throwing up scans every few days

Not the most difficult but one of my favorites

Just curious, how much do the #117's run in Gem-Mint condition?

currently 700-1000 I would say. They took a huge spike despite there being quite a few compared to other Jordans in gem mint. It is a very pretty card which is probably why. Here is another tough SP of magic that is CENTERED(VERY TOUGH on this card). I thought it was fitting to show the sp bird with it too which is also difficult and one of my favorite star cards of all time. The colors!!! I keep saying that I know but star cards are beautiful!

I guess by the third year of issue, quality control at Star must have gotten a lot better to account for all of the Gem-Mint copies as compared to the second year Jordan card ('84-'85) which is virtually impossible to find Gem-Mint.

That is correct.. It was on a different part of the sheet and the cutting was much more controlled.
Attached are a couple more classic rookies. GOD I love the colors!!

101
 

Added another... Oooops! I JUST.CAN'T.STOP...

Don't die thread
 

Miller time

Crunchy Munchy
 

Love this one

Monster Barkley pickup
 

9.5 Barkley star Bgs xrc

Here are my 2-MJ Star cards!

Fantastic!! Here is another of mine.:) it is tough in high grade. "The poor man's101.

Gorgeous cards, Ben - thanks for sharing.

Thank you! Here are a couple more nba champion xrc rookies which are also sps.

Jordan Psa 101 -1/1
 

Attached is the ONLY PSA graded Jordan 101 card. It is a cool/historical piece as it relates to the star card set IMO.

Show your Michael Jordan and ALL OTHER star company basketball cards
 

That's very cool! Is it authentic? When I first saw this post, I assumed that the cert wouldn't check out, but here it is: http://www.psacard.com/Cert/02002207

Thanks for posting. How many other Star cards do you think are out there in PSA slabs?

Yes.. It is authentic(or I would never have purchased it) and the only one graded by Psa. I have no idea how many total star cards are graded.

Nice card.
Why is there only one PSA graded star jordan rookie?

Below sums it up that was posted on a blowoutcard thread.
"In short, they got spook when they graded a few bad apples a decade ago and stop grading Star. Since then much of the facts and myths have been confirmed or debunked. Here is a good article featuring Taft.

The Real Star Co Cards Story - Interview with renowned Star cards expert Steve Taft - Michael Jordan Cards"
http://jordancards.com/blog/the-real...rt-steve-taft/

Picked up this very rare Dallas Mavs 1983-84 bag. The cards appear to be mint which is a plus!
There were only 700 or so sets produced as a whole.

Newest MJ addition
 

Not the most valuable but certainly one of the prettiest.

A few signed.

Love DR J

very nice

I know that feeling all too well. And it always looks so damn obvious in hindsight. :D

Quite the collection of Star Jordans.

Here is my crappy iphone photo of my Star Jordan. I keep debating if I want to get it graded and sell it to fund some other parts of my collection. I remember buying the complete set for $60 as a kid. I was smart enough to take care of the star players but can't say the same things about the commons.

http://net54baseball.com/picture.php...ictureid=19151

For autograph collectors the John Stockton is extremely hard to get as John doesn't like to sign cards. I got this signed IP while attending his basketball camp at Gonzaga.

http://net54baseball.com/picture.php...ictureid=19152

I bought a set of the Star cards as well when they came out; I wish my 42 year-old self had the investing wisdom that my 11 year old self did!

After sitting in my collection raw for 30+ years, this one is at Beckett now, and I should learn its grade in a day or two. Won't be too high because of a couple of corners, but will be happy to have it slabbed, should I ever decide to move it....

Ended up with a 7 on the above Jordan

Corners 6.5
Centering 7.5
Edges 8.5
Surface 9.0

About what I expected, so I'm happy to have it slabbed now!

cool. great card!

This thread inspired me to pick one up, my 1st. I agree Ben, this is the best image of all of the Jordan stars. The dimensions of the 5x7 only improves the look.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...psq8mltupy.jpg

I love that card! Thanks for sharing.

Bird and magic
 

I picked up a couple classics. Why the magic didn't get a 9 centering making it a 9.5 is beyond me. It is a beautiful card.
Star cards rule.

I have always loved this card. They go relatively cheap in high grades which surprises me.

I recently picked up this one, with three 9s it seems unfairly graded to me although I don't know Beckett's system. Also all the ones I have seen are pretty much centered like this.

Jordan Olympic
 

Peter - Nice card. I agree most are centered like that.

With beckett you can only get a .5 grade higher over-all then the corners or centering. So your 7,9,9,9 would in theory net the same grade as a card with all 7.5's. The Jordan below had a 6 for corners making the highest grade possible a 6.5. If you get a 7 for surface or edges and all of the other grades were a 9 you could get an over-all grade of 8.

It is why that Beckett prices will vary depending on the subs. A card with 9.5's across the board but an 8.5 for centering will sell better then a card with 3 9's and a 8.5 even though they have the same grade.

Thx. I decided to sell the card so we'll see what those 9 subs mean. :) (Listed on the bst)

Latest Acquisition
 

I thought I would share my latest acquisition here, since the Basketball/Hockey New Acquisition thread is really a Hockey thread. ;)

That is awesome I wish I had the extra cash to pick up another, that card was like a unicorn when I was a kid. Until one day I saw one and the dealer wanted $900, which to me in the early 90's was like a million. I would go into his shop and look at that thing all the time until he sold it. It was in similar shape as yours, that is one card, that condition aside, just having is great, in my opinion.

Absolutely gorgeous Jordan, friend. One of my dream cards, for sure. Great pickup!

Star Jordan
 

This sub set seems to be getting more interest over the last year

Star Jordan
 

The rest of the set

Any good place to look to get a good up to date sense of what the Star cards are worth?

Star cards have been fairly active on EBay in recent months and you can sort by completed sale for pricing. I follow these closely. If you are looking to buy and new to Star, buy cards in the BGS holder already until you have time to study up. The fakes are easy to tell if you take the time to learn and is worth the effort as the cards are beauties.

Here are two recent Jordan pickups. I have been wanting to get an Entenmann's Jordan for some time. The Star Jordan #117 is a beautiful 2nd year card. The Star Jordan was produced before the 1986 Fleer Jordan.

I just picked up my first star jordans, the ten card subset from 86. All are Beckett 8's. I am very impressed by Becketts grading of these (love the sub grading) and will be on the lookout for others.

The Jordan 10 card subset is very underappreciated and a great place to start a Star basketball collection. You can still pick up BGS 9 cards from that subset for under $200 which is pretty astounding considering the limited print run on one of Jordan's earliest cards.

Picked up this super tough to find in Gem Mint Jordan Slam Dunk Super.

Outstanding!

Alright, I'm late buying this, but it is still something I can easily flip down the line. It has two 9.5 sub-grades as well, which is cool.

I was actually going to purchase a BGS 8 at first, but when I saw that a 7.5 was going for $2000 - $2500 less, then I was like "screw that, I'll just go with the cheaper option!"

Now I think I will have to go after the other big rookies in this set - Barkley will probably be next. Oh, and I find it awesome that this set has the true John Stockton RC as well (he was excluded from the 1986 and 1987 Fleer sets).

Second year. I hope it's real LOL although I have it on pretty good assurance that it is.

Peter,

Nice card. If you have any concerns, then just email the scans to Steve Taft and ask him for his opinion. He was one of the original distributors of Star basketball cards back in the 1980s.

Thanks. I got approval not from Steve but from another guy who is extremely knowledgeable about Star BKB. I don't entirely trust BGS due to seeing so many cards that look really short in their holders.

Samosa, that is a beautiful #101. Peter, your #117 is indeed legit and a 10 subgrade to boot definitely adds something extra.