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johnts1 02-26-2016 06:40 PM

Mickey Mantle Autograph
 
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Just bought a Mantle signed ball, from a guy, on Ebay. Who has been on there, for 17 years, and has 100 rating. He said, he had gotten the ball signed in person, in 1990. The ball has no COA, but I am going to get it authenticated this weekend by PSA OR JSA.

Anyone on here know much about Mantle autographs? I attached a few pics.

Thank you!

earlywynnfan 02-26-2016 06:45 PM

There are about 100 better Mantle guys on here, but to me it looks slowly drawn. IMHO, I would have passed.

thetruthisoutthere 02-26-2016 06:46 PM

Isn't this you below?


http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...age=1#comments

earlywynnfan 02-26-2016 07:37 PM

Kinda makes me disappointed I bothered replying to you.

w7imel 02-26-2016 07:38 PM

That ugly even for a forgery!:p:p:p

Lordstan 02-26-2016 09:38 PM

Well. Sorry to say but you bought either a fake Mantle or possibly the worst looking authentic one. Even if the story about the original owner getting it signed in person is true, you'll likely never be able to sell it again.

johnts1 02-27-2016 04:29 AM

Yep.That looks like my ball.But that's not me.

johnts1 02-27-2016 04:30 AM

Oh boy!!

johnts1 02-27-2016 04:34 AM

Oh,boy!!!! LOL. I've looked at two hundred Mantles.It's not that bad. I'll know tomorow.,for sure.

johnts1 02-27-2016 04:35 AM

Did I say something wrong Early?

johnts1 02-27-2016 04:43 AM

I got it cheap.I don't plan on selling it. I love it,actually. This guy's been on ebay 18 years He has a 100 percentile.Why,all of a sudden,would he start f@#king people??? I'm not gullible.I still think its real.I let you guys know tomorrow.

Mr. Zipper 02-27-2016 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by johnts1 (Post 1508937)
Yep.That looks like my ball.But that's not me.

Are you - Johnts1 -- claiming you are not the same person named "John Spillane" or "Johnny Spacks" who posted the same ball on Autograph Magazine Live within a day of you posting here? :confused:

Rookiemonster 02-27-2016 06:35 AM

HAHAHAHA !!!! 🚨New favorite thread alert 🚨


You got some splaining to do !

7nohitter 02-27-2016 07:05 AM

"Stealth Account" Possibility!!

Terrier8HOF 02-27-2016 07:14 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICKEY-MANTL...p2047675.l2557

this is cheap????

RichardSimon 02-27-2016 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by johnts1 (Post 1508937)
Yep.That looks like my ball.But that's not me.

REALLY???????? :confused::confused::confused::confused:

w7imel 02-27-2016 08:06 AM

395 sold for price:eek::eek::eek::eek:Thats cheap???????:confused:

batsballsbases 02-27-2016 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by johnts1 (Post 1508937)
Yep.That looks like my ball.But that's not me.

Richard,
Kinda like O.J. and his shoes! Thats me in the picture but those arenot my shoes! ;);)

w7imel 02-27-2016 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by johnts1 (Post 1508941)
I got it cheap.I don't plan on selling it. I love it,actually. This guy's been on ebay 18 years He has a 100 percentile.Why,all of a sudden,would he start f@#king people??? I'm not gullible.I still think its real.I let you guys know tomorrow.

What exactly is he going to let us know? Really confused after reading the 2 threads:confused:

thetruthisoutthere 02-27-2016 08:52 AM

Looks like it sold for $345.00 on Feb. 22nd.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICKEY-MANTL...p2047675.l2557

earlywynnfan 02-27-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by w7imel (Post 1509009)
What exactly is he going to let us know? Really confused after reading the 2 threads:confused:

I think he's going to get it certed by someone, then we'll be sorry because it will be real.

earlywynnfan 02-27-2016 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by johnts1 (Post 1508940)
Did I say something wrong Early?

No, I just hate wasting my time with people who play games. You got all the answers you could possibly want on another site, but since you didn't like them, you come over here to play the same games.

I also don't like dealing with people who change their stories, but that's just me.

Ken

PS: Honestly, I think "It's not that bad" needs to be the new Mantle catchphrase!

thetruthisoutthere 02-27-2016 10:44 AM

At this point, the issue isn't about the authenticity of the autograph, but about the lies and deception.

chaddurbin 02-27-2016 10:55 AM

c'mon fellas they can't be the same person. the other guy goes by "johnny", while here we have "john". there's a 33% difference with the name, quit being so judgemental.

thetruthisoutthere 02-27-2016 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by chaddurbin (Post 1509055)
c'mon fellas they can't be the same person. the other guy goes by "johnny", while here we have "john". there's a 33% difference with the name, quit being so judgemental.

That's funny!!!!!!!!!

frankbmd 02-27-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chaddurbin (Post 1509055)
c'mon fellas they can't be the same person. the other guy goes by "johnny", while here we have "john". there's a 33% difference with the name, quit being so judgemental.

The next thread will be hosted by Juan.

Michael B 02-27-2016 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1509062)
The next thread will be hosted by Juan.

Valdez? Will his avatar include a burro with two bags of coffee beans slung across the back?

TUM301 02-27-2016 04:30 PM

New Ebayer
 
Another possibility, "Jon" as in you know who that drove a certain LeBaron convertible.

Stampsfan 02-29-2016 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TUM301 (Post 1509187)
Another possibility, "Jon" as in you know who that drove a certain LeBaron convertible.

Love the Seinfeld reference. Very clever.

oucats02 02-29-2016 11:38 AM

Everybody's talkin' at me...I can't hear a word they're sayin'...just drivin' around in Jon Voight's car...

johnts1 03-08-2016 06:52 PM

UPDATE!!!! Finally....My PSA!! It's a real Mantle sig!!!
 
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My Mantle signed ball, has been Authenticated!!!! Finally!!!!!

Lordstan 03-08-2016 10:48 PM

Ok. One last time.... Just because PSA certed it, doesn't mean it's real. You paid them for their opinion, just like the many opinions you got here and autograph live. I am not bashing them, I just hate it when people say their auto is real because they have a cert.

mighty bombjack 03-08-2016 10:57 PM

Good for you

johnts1 03-12-2016 10:56 AM

You hate it when people deem something real??? Because it was certed???? Never said, that.Thought it was real,even before I had it authenticated,by PSA.

My seller said,he got it signed in person. At a card show,in 1990.I looked up the card show.It corroborated his story that mickey was there at a signing. He's been an EBayer for 18 years. A feedback of 100%. Guaranteed my money back, if it failed the auto test. He has tons of highend stuff, Mantle DiMaggio,Gehrig, on ebay. And finally, PSA authenticated it. I have a good feeling,its real.

Prove to me,your stuff is real????? How do you convince people,that your stuff is real???



How do you deem your collection real.???? Most of it,is PSA Certified.

Lordstan 03-12-2016 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by johnts1 (Post 1514496)
You hate it when people deem something real??? Because it was certed???? Never said, that.Thought it was real,even before I had it authenticated,by PSA.

My seller said,he got it signed in person. At a card show,in 1990.I looked up the card show.It corroborated his story that mickey was there at a signing. He's been an EBayer for 18 years. A feedback of 100%. Guaranteed my money back, if it failed the auto test. He has tons of highend stuff, Mantle DiMaggio,Gehrig, on ebay. And finally, PSA authenticated it. I have a good feeling,its real.

Prove to me,your stuff is real????? How do you convince people,that your stuff is real???



How do you deem your collection real.???? Most of it,is PSA Certified.

NO. I said I hate it when someone makes the definitive statement that their item is real because they have a cert. The TPAs provide an opinion and that is all. It is not a guarantee. It is their opinion that this auto is real, but their opinion is not perfect. Nobody's opinion is perfect. The various TPAs, including PSA, have certed many fake autos. This is a matter of fact and examples of this are public record and are not just my opinion.

Stating that PSA thinks your ball is authentic is factually correct. Stating you believe the sellers story and your opinion is that it's authentic is also correct. Stating your auto IS real is factually not correct. The only way to prove it to yourself that the auto is real is to have seen it signed yourself.

I don't have to prove to you or anyone else my stuff is authentic. I don't collect to impress other people. If someone doesn't wish to believe that my stuff is real, so what? Almost none of my stuff is certified by anyone as I don't need to pay someone to give me their opinion that stuff I saw signed in front of me is real. The stuff that I didn't see signed I either feel comfortable in my own knowledge base, 35 yrs of collecting in the making, or I have bought from dealers I know for quite a while and trust their expertise.
I have only sent 2 items to any TPA ever and they were both done right before I sold the items to maximize the sale amount. The only items in my collection that are certed came that way and, for the most part, I would've rather had them without it as it would've saved me some money.

BTW, I never said the ball was definitely fake. I said it was either fake or the worst looking authentic Mantle ball I had seen in a while. Having a PSA letter does not change my opinion and I doubt changes anyone else's here either. Its' your ball and I hope you enjoy it.


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